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terrenaut
I just wanted you all to know that these discussions have given me much food for thought.
Do you remember being taught the difference between a religion and a cult? If I remember correctly, it was that a religion/spiritual path/truth was based on a philosophy while a cult was centered around an specific individual. Of course this was meant to show us that we were not a cult. Wrong-o
This is very depressing.
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hoax108
Regarding the homophobia - before I left I remember some lectures that were quite explicit. Apparently this is getting worse.
Is this consistent with his technique of propping up straw dogs and knocking them down? I remember an earlier poster commenting quite nicely on this technique of his but I can't recall who the poster was.
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quotesman
I think for some of us it was actually torture to force ourselves to go to a gathering and chant.
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quotesman
I think for some of us it was actually torture to force ourselves to go to a gathering and chant.
Hey bro, I can totally relate to that statement.
Especially in Honolulu at the famous "headquarters"
Seems that there was such a hierarchy developing then.
It was quite uncomfortable and it was a relief to get out!
One outsider came into a rambunctious Haribol chant one time and said "How can that be spiritual?" Of course, the FL did not want to consider that person's point of view.
Other ordinary people I have met over the years also have stated that they preferred the mellow harmonium with Indian drums, as opposed to the "scream and shout" with electric guitars etc.
There was a kind of hysteria with some of the devotees,
especially the more fanatical ones.
One time the Fearless Leader wanted to make French toast for the Queen bee
Some of the devotees were hysterically running around the DTE store gathering bread and jam for the Royal Couple.
Spooky. Weird.
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But the fact that you are still reading this thread means you must be on your way out. Good luck. Good things will come to you if you leave, I am sure of that.
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But the fact that you are still reading this thread means you must be on your way out. Good luck. Good things will come to you if you leave, I am sure of that.
I am not really thinking of leaving but that may come, for sure. I guess that is part of the process. My real hope is that the people involved, the real Vaishnavas, will see that change needs to happen and make it so.
They say you will go to hell for criticizing Guru, but I think you are in far worse shape if you never ask the critical questions.
Many things are wrong. Is there any hope they can be fixed? Comments?