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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: August 25, 2026 08:38PM

Cancer or no cancer, they are spiritual criminals and will never be able to undo the damage.
They can cry all they want o and play the stupid social media game.
Thee are laws much higher than the ones they think they can break.
Spiritual scams and crimes are much more serious than material ones.
The less than devotees have served and worshipped these parasites long enough.

The Free labor, adoration, total obedience, absolute terror, chronic illnesses, mental illnesses, suicides… cannot just be left up to Karma.
butler and his parasitic royalty are all getting old.
They must be held accountable before their body turns into ashes and they are even more glorified dead than alive.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: August 26, 2026 12:19AM

Exactly.

It is also worth emphasizing aspects based on the philosophy they claim to teach and the faith they claim to profess. The Bhagavatam clearly defines 6 categories of people responsible for sin in the chain of responsibility: The one who gives permission (anumanta) – the person who sanctions, orders, or authorizes the killing (e.g., a leader, official, or customer ordering the act).The one who kills (nihanta) – the actual proof who performs the slaughter or execution.The one who dissects or dresses the meat (visasita) – the person who cuts up and prepares the carcass.The one who buys or sells (kreta / vikreta) – the merchant who trades it and the consumer who finances the trade.The one who cooks (samskarta) – the chef or individual preparing the meat into a meal.The one who serves or eats (khadaka) – the person who serves the dish and the final consumer who eats it. A similar approach can be applied to abortion, etc.

Tulsi Gabbard was not neutral on the issue of abortion. Even though she encountered a status quo for which she was not responsible, she participated in votes against tightening abortion laws. If this pro-abortion stance was a political maneuver by Butler, the victims numbered in the hundreds of thousands or more. Planned Parenthood performed 300,000-400,000 abortions annually. Even if Tulsi changed her position after 10 years, she became entangled in these karmic processes. She expressed support for Planned Parenthood. She expressed support for federal funding for Planned Parenthood. She took money from Planned Parenthood three times. We can divide her responsibility as a member of Congress into one-sixth—535 voting members. However, late-term abortions and fetuses surviving abortions—could still be rare, and within a few years, there could be tens of thousands of official abortions.

Then the question arises—what is Butler's responsibility? Butler will say, "My wonderful cellist, whom I was following, turned out to be a terrible demon." Wait a minute, Chris, you followed her. And now it turns out that you, as a transparent medium for God, didn't recognize her demonism?

But then the Washington Post comes in and files receipts showing that Tulsi was completely under Mr. Butler's control. Well, in this situation, Chris, you have to collect karma for all this. If your comfortable little ass deals with all this according to that philosophy, they'll wonder in hell. Either way, he's responsible

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: August 27, 2026 06:04PM

The Elite in SIF have sold their souls.
The rest are ignorant and in lala land.
And some who know about the crimes, choose to put their heads in the sand to taste the bliss.
Over all, they are an absolute disaster that needs to be dismantled.
However it may never happen.
But one can still create damage and havoc to make it harder for them to commit crimes.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: August 30, 2026 05:18PM

From somewhere on the web....

[www.youtube.com]

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: August 31, 2026 09:31PM

Phoney marriages to get US visas for cult members...

American investigative journalism has directly suggested that Sunil Khemaney was married to Wai Lana. This is an interesting topic. There are no documents. However, there have been unconfirmed suggestions that this marriage continued during her marriage to Bellord or Butler. In 1982. There is no confirmation, but the journalists relied on something. Polygamy? Interestingly, in December 2005, the Hong Kong High Court heard the estate of the deceased Govind Rupchand Khemaney (Sunil Khemaney and Another v Vijay Khemaney). The parties to the case: Sunil Khemaney (first plaintiff) and Richard Valentine Bellord (second plaintiff) were the plaintiffs. The fact that Wai Lana's two alleged or actual ex-husbands (Richard Bellord and Sunil Khemaney) jointly led a legal battle concerning the Khemaney family assets is often cited by journalists as evidence of the extremely close, even hermetic, business and family relations within the structures managed by Chris Butler.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: September 01, 2026 03:12AM

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Court High Court (Hong Kong)
Judgment Date 12 September 2006
Judgment Number HCAP4/2005
Year 2006
Copyright note Judgment sourced from the Hong Kong Judiciary/Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government.
Subject Matter Probate Action

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IN THE ESTATE OF GOVIND RUPCHAND KHEMANEY, late of B2, 16/F Villa Monte Rosa, No. 41A Stubbs Road, Hong Kong, a retired British, deceased.
_________________________

BETWEEN

SUNIL KHEMANEY 1st Plaintiff
RICHARD VALENTINE BELLORD 2nd Plaintiff
And
VIJAY KHEMANEY Defendant
_________________________

[vlex.hk]

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: September 02, 2026 03:31AM

[baike.baidu.com]

Western Social Diseases Bai Zhongyan book
[pdfyl.ertongbook.com]

1983 by "Chinese" version of Chris Butler claiming he has "researchers" that belong to the Science of Identity Institute around the world:

Publisher’s Note

This book focuses on the social problems of drug addiction, suicide, and divorce in Western society. Its compilers, Bai Zhongyan and Zhang Huilan, are both foreign writers, and they wrote it specifically for Chinese readers.

Beginning from the “Science of Identity” philosophy in which they believe, the compilers analyze drug addiction, suicide, and divorce as pathological social phenomena and describe the harm they cause. The authors are not Marxists and therefore cannot provide a Marxist analysis of many of these questions. Nevertheless, the book contains a considerable quantity of source material. We believe it will be useful to researchers whether or not they agree with the compilers’ philosophical views, and we have therefore decided to publish it.

We thank Bai Zhongyan, Zhang Huilan, and the book’s other contributors for their concern for our country’s modernization.

—Editorial Department, Joint Publishing

Dedication

I respectfully dedicate this book to all Chinese friends who genuinely care about the happiness of their country’s people, and to those Chinese friends wholeheartedly striving to help the People’s Republic of China advance materially and spiritually.

In China, hundreds of millions of people are serving the people with all their hearts and minds. This book is also one insignificant person’s sincere attempt to offer you a small service. I earnestly hope it may be of some use.

From Bai Zhongyan’s Acknowledgments

I am not the sole author of this book—or, more accurately, I suppose I am its compiler—because many of the articles sent from New Zealand, Australia, West Germany, Britain, and the United States were largely written by citizens of those countries. They are all researchers with the Science of Identity Institute in their respective countries.

I revised, edited, and generally polished their submissions, but I left most of the basic articles unchanged, preserving their original form. I believe this gives the book more “character,” although certain portions may consequently appear repetitive and cumbersome.

I also believe that the people best suited to write about a country’s social problems are citizens of that country who are actively engaged in social research and social work. All the Science of Identity researchers who contributed to this book meet those qualifications.

The contents divide the book into:
1. Illegal drugs — pages 1–160
2. Legal drugs, including alcohol and psychoactive medications — pages 161–400
3. Suicide — pages 401–466
4. Divorce — pages 467–582
5. Hedonism — page 583
6. Conclusion — page 596

RUN

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: September 06, 2026 02:05AM

Butler has been a manipulative troll for years. He seems capable of putting plenty of effort into something when it pushes his own agenda forward (failed movies, failed political campaigns, failed public access TV crap, failed guru career). In the 80s he went to China looking for a new audience and tried to capitalize on his follower’s famous yoga-teacher wife, using her popularity to give his own little cult some legitimacy and exposure. When that did not amount to much, he tried his hand at those painfully naive public-access TV appearances.

The bigger irony with Butler and cults like his is the entire premise they tell people that the great human problem is that we "falsely identify ourselves with the body, the mind, etc. Their solution is apparently to replace all of that with an extremely specific Indian Bengali cult identity—remade in the image of Butler.

Suddenly you are worshipping an Indian god, chanting Indian words, reading medieval Indian philosophical texts, accepting Indian cosmology, adopting Indian religious rituals, celebrating Indian holy days, using Indian names, and eventually even calling yourself Hindu.

Why Indian words? Why not Icelandic words? Why not Inuit words? If the entire point is that these bodily and cultural identities are ultimately meaningless, it is rather funny that the cure somehow requires adopting the religious cult vocabulary and cultural ideology of one particular part of the planet.

And the sales technique is always the same: They point to divorce, drug addiction, broken relationships, greed, depression, sexual problems, alcoholism, loneliness, dissatisfaction and every other ordinary failure of human beings and say, “See, this is what happens when people identify with the "body".”

Except all of those problems exist in Butler's cult too—and India and all Hare Krishna cults. They exist everywhere because they are human problems, not evidence that Westerners have failed to discover the correct Indian metaphysics.

That is the part that becomes almost parody. You tell somebody that their problem is misidentification, then hand them an entirely new package of things to identify with. Their old cultural identity was supposedly illusion, but the new sectarian identity is somehow spiritual truth. Their old words were material, but Indian words are "transcendental". Their old customs were conditioning, but Indian religious cult customs are "liberation".

So what has actually happened? In most cases they have not transcended any bodily identification at all. They have simply swapped one identification for another and declared the replacement "sacred".

Butler’s proposition is comically provincial: humanity suffers because it identifies with the wrong things, and the solution just happens to be adopting the particular Indian Bengali religious cult that Butler is selling. Add insult to injury, the prime goal of life is to "realize" your "sidha swarup" as a, you guessed it, medieval Indian cowherding 12-year-old Mnajari girl who helps god and his married girlfriend fuck for eternity. Jai! Such a profound goal!

Apparently the cure for identifying yourself as an American, Chinese, Australian, or whatever else is to stop identifying with your culture and start identifying with his version of Hinduism. Somehow that counts as transcending identification.

RUN

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: September 07, 2026 07:20AM

'In most cases they have not transcended any bodily identification at all. They have simply swapped one identification for another and declared the replacement "sacred".'

Recovering alcoholics and addicts often tell how they tried to solve their problems by moving to a different city or country.

They call this "pulling a geographic".

What RUN FOREST describes is pretty much the same thing.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: September 07, 2026 08:38PM

corboy Wrote:
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> 'In most cases they have not transcended any
> bodily identification at all. They have simply
> swapped one identification for another and
> declared the replacement "sacred".'

Fairy tales about the Little Match Girl, the Flying Carpet or Orphan Mary. "transcended any bodily identification". At the school in Baguio, Americans were reportedly treated the best. The money only goes to headquarters and never returns. The most distinguished in Central Europe and the sick never received financial support. And so on.

The most rigorous female leaders in Poland, condemning all kinds of violations of the rules of brahmacaria, either changed their narrative in the face of competition with followers with large breasts or had to experience the "big black" themselves on a business trip.

> Recovering alcoholics and addicts often tell how
> they tried to solve their problems by moving to a
> different city or country.

It's a very interesting topic—it's unknown in Poland how many alcoholics there were among Butler's followers. Witnesses say Midgett drank non-alcoholic beer, but the appearance of his hair suggests a more serious addiction at one point. He drank non-alcoholic beer when his great friend Muncie said it was inappropriate. He also allegedly burned Tulasi leaves instead of marijuana. The topic of pedophilia is not taboo in the West, but in Poland there are rumors of hushing up rare incidents.

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