Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: June 17, 2022 06:47PM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> We will see how it all unfolds in the future.
> By the way Culthusiast. Thanks for being the
> equalizer. I think many of us can get very
> passionate.



"To equalize those who are not equalized..."

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: June 28, 2022 04:36AM

Another thing worth noting. The "Maye Society". If you translate "Maye" literally in polish-english, it is plural of "Maya" - illusion. "Maye" or "some Maya's". "woman representatives of Maya". Anyway, the webinar:

[www.facebook.com]

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We cordially invite you to Yoga with AutoMassage and Five Tibetan Rituals with Malwina. All this will take place in the YOGA ZONE ON THE GRASS.

What's wrong with that? Buddhism with schools came out of India and is a philosophy that does not accept the infallibility of the Vedas. However, it has a lot in common. Nevertheless, the Tibetan rituals - noteworthy - are not Gaudiya tradition.

Yes, they are not in the Gadiya tradition. This is "non-theism". This is not monotheism, pantheism. This is not Vedanta.

And while Mrs. Malwina is nice, that the declared old brahmacari married her and the Tibetan rituals are interesting, it is still hypocrisy.

Well, of course, you can say that the "Maye Association/Society" is neutral in terms of worldview and it is not officially SIF Poland.

What would Grandpa Midgett say? What will Siddhaswarupananda say to this? What will Sir Acharya das say?

"Tibby says, Tibet yes!"

Are those who prefer Tibetan rituals while belonging to the movement claiming to be Vedanta "full of dog stool"?

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: June 28, 2022 08:22AM

Seems the times they are not a changin:

[cultnews.com]

What's ironic is that as long as these schools are operated under the legal radar, either in foreign countries or in secluded devotee communities, this type of crap will keep going on.

Devotees live in terror of the "outside" world and often send their kids to such "schools" in hopes of the best, but instead, get the worst.

And if the abuse is not at the hands of teachers and fellow students, then it is at the hands of the larger doctrines woven into their ideology. Children are afraid of the opposite sex, they are afraid of having feelings and emotions and they are afraid to speak up and have no one to talk to.

Yes, they smile for pictures and grit through it all, but the fact remains that both in Butler's PI schools, as well as ISKCON and other off-shoot krishna groups there is endless abuses, physical, and mental, emotional and ultimately spiritual.

In the end, most students are left to make sense of their young life in these cults on their own. As they grow up, mature and have REAL experiences, they wither resent how they were raised or they know nothing else and simply stay in it because it's all they know how to do. They ultimately feel awkward outside the fold of the cult and need to formulate an identity within its confines.

Run people. Run Fast and far.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: June 28, 2022 04:57PM

I have been often mocked and belittled in here for saying that when you retaliate against the science of identity, something bad happens.
This is of course my experience and it cannot be just coincidence. It is a pattern that I have noticed in my life way too often to think it is jut random.
But I do it anyways because it is the right thing to do and I also have to take revenge for what they have done to me and my life.
Recently everything has gotten so bad. I sent a very nasty email to all of them mentioning all that I had found out in here.
I also presented myself.
Told them that I had trashed them in this forum so that they know who I am.
Just a week later or so I was involved in the freakiest accident ever and now my body is completely injured.
Of course it is just karma and a coincidence. Nothing to do with attacking someone who is very protected by whatever asshole-ish forces out there.
It is fine if I’m seen as crazy in here.
All I want to say is that nothing will stop me from trashing this path as well as the criminal guru and his minions.
I am still standing. I am no longer the coward that Bhakti yoga had built.
crying to the deities and gurudead like a baby in pampers.
It took me years and years of other painful practices in order to build a new version of myself. To become the person I am today and to undo the freaking damages done by those asses.
What I am saying today is only to send a message to both the seen and unseen forces. No invisible mafia will scare me by destroying me and my life even more.
The days of fearing the gods of religions are over. With their cruel spiritual laws.
Nothing and noone will ever silence me. Be it seen or unseen forces.
I am completely fine if I am the only person who experiences or believes in a spiritual warfare.
I am going to stay polite in here but you can imagine the language I use when I address whatever forces are in charge.
I am typing with one hand while the other is in a cast.
if I ever stop attacking them as they deserve it, it will not be out of fear.
it will be because they’re not even worth it. They will always be under the illusion. Completely ignorant that they were being fooled both by men and by gods. They are hopeless. They will always remain blissfully ignorant.
SoI, demons and gods have crucified the wrong person this time.
I am not the tyoe who stays nailed on the cross for very long.
Sorry bros. Go find some other suckers to freely use and abuse. Those who leave silently and keep the abuse to themselves, or virtue signal by forgiving.
Those sweet days are over. The fear of offenses is over. Taking advantage of hypnotized souls is over. Hiding the 40 plus years of crime is over.



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: June 29, 2022 01:28AM

RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote:
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> Seems the times they are not a changin:
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> [cultnews.com]


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The boy was forced to urinate and defecate on himself, and was humiliated by the teacher in front of his classmates. The teacher would ridicule the boy, denigrating him and encouraging his classmates to do the same.

Horror

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: June 29, 2022 01:35AM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> I have been often mocked and belittled in here for
> saying that when you retaliate against the science
> of identity, something bad happens.

Just because you point your finger at the sapper's errors in a minefield, it doesn't mean that you will miss or dodge all the mines. You must have a good detector. Precise. This is precisely the problem of advanced rigors, where the abuse is subtle because it is present among highly educated players. For example, the judiciary community, etc.

But among memes, concepts, words there are ... forces. Tendencies...Everybody knows the law, the article but what if....we gain at some tiny deviation, limited or expanded vocabulary...

Gain of some kind (strictly to the rules but still gain), benefits of the whole or...or mixed, misra, gain with some rule breaking.

There are restrictions that are exploited. An example from Polish civil law. An annuity agreement allows for the introduction of a clause where the caring for the old woman becomes the owner of the apartment or house. After death. But the purchase contract of sale clearly stipulates the amount of the consideration. A clause of this kind is dead. A comment. And now the parties sign such a contract of sale and the buyer then ignores the old woman. he does not care. It may be argued that care is part of the agreement. But the courts refuted it. And the notary allowed it. Ignorance. Tamas. But also a benefit

When at the court one points out with his finger to the judge that his colleague from the legal sect - a notary - allowed to enter this clause, the judge says that he is a "crystalline man". Party. Group. Crystalline maybe, but some shit is shining through. In turn, the person who declares care is not a pair of buyers but, for example, a woman with German citizenship. It will be more difficult to get, if at all, care. Depends on local law.

The knowledge. Veda. But intellectual potential also matters. Samkhya. Methodology. And determination. A convenient for-profit attorney collides with the social advocate. I know more, but the social advocate is precise, hard-working and determined. Or when confronted with an expert. It happens rarely, but the attorney is crushed. Or a forensic expert. After the first question, consternation. In the second series of questions, a knockout. There is no opportunity to ask the third one. Ridiculous in public.

"No final satisfaction. The blood is not smeared on the pull and your corpse is not eaten by emaciated, moldy dogs living in an abandoned pigsty"

Trophies...



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Fohr ()
Date: June 29, 2022 05:21AM

RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote:
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> Seems the times they are not a changin:
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> [cultnews.com]

Thank you for sharing this. I was not aware of this school in Dallas and their history. All devotees and ex-devotees should read the account of the mother of the abused boy. She shared it on her Facebook page (linked in the article above).

I have many emotions reading what happened, and it is absolutely bizarre the way other teachers, temple management, local congregation members, and whoever else involved attempt to sweep it under the rug, or even invent reasons that justify the abusive behavior. I feel that this further stresses the importance of how to identify cult-like behaviors, else the brainwashing gets to a point that is unimaginable.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: June 30, 2022 04:32PM

Let us not get too technical. I am beyond the Vedas BS. I play the game at a very different level.
And let us stop speaking in riddles.
I cannot even be understood in here. I know very well what is up. I have chosen to enter at war with the so called gods and they are not just some pics on the wall.
They are nasty as hell and do present themselves as such in every scripture by punishing humans.
I mean little blue boy has nothing on tye god of the bible.
I have attacked all gods of religions, in full knowledge thst it would and could cost the life of this body.
I do not give one single damn if nobody believes my reality in here or elsewhere.
I have been targeted with bullets of criticidm in here. I took it with grace because on a regulated forum, I have to behave like a little good kid.
It is funny how the gods who are supposed to be so powerful, never show their faces.
Only cowards do not show their faces.You really buy the BS that the deities look like they do?
Sweet and beautiful? Riding on swans and elephants?
They are possibly some ugly creatures pretending to be magical.
The guy who hit me, did it from behind. Even though it was supposed to be an accident.
Then he took off. And the police is as useless as butler. Just guys with a uniform who are a symbol of protection. It is only their uniforns snd guns that makes them scary.
I said to them I thought you were here to protect the citizens. Apparently I live in criminals’ paradise. Pretty much like SOI.
Pretty much like butler. He just looks holy on his guru chair and he is a pretend symbol of perfection. He is worth shit.
Yes that guy hitting me so badly and making my body suffer so much, took off like a sissy. I was too much under pain and shock to have asked for his info.
The same way what butler does, is not considered a crime, what he did to me is not considered a crime. Was he just delivering effing karma?
The effing reincarnation and karma system mindless devotees find fair and fantastic? The most cruel system that can ever exist.
What a bunch of masochistic fools all the people who appreciate this system are.
Yes the guy is as cowerdly as the aholes who call themselves gods.
He possibly knew I would eff him over. He better hide from me.
Bring it on bastards! Cowards! Use all your powers on me.
You can only hurt my body avatar SOBs. My spirits are much stronger than any fake guru who needs 40 men in skirts to carry guns for him.
I do not need guns, no bodyguards. I will descend to hell if necessary to put these snakes in their place.
I have refused to sell my soul for that simulated bliss devotees need to inject like Heroine. Lose their self respect for the promise of a fake laland planet they will reach after life.
Am almost sure they will be kicked back in this realm, like suckers and play this game over again.
Or maybe they will be slaves in the astral realms or something.
Getiing a piss shower (as Narayana Maharaja) encourages his followers to do, in order to succeed in spiritual life, may not be something am interested in.
I think I prefer to swim in some clear waters.
And please never quote any god damn scriptures for me. It is worth crap to me.
I can trash and crush SoI even more elsewhere. However my energy is too precious to be wasted anymore on these mindless blind fools.
Their foreheads must be numb by now from bowing down.
I did not post this here to get a response. I am speaking openly to the forces who have closed all the doors on me.
I know what the have in store for me. But true warriors do not cower. We do not hide our faces and identities. We do not need bullet proof jackets.
I do not hide behind some fake beautiful forms.
Thid is an open invitatiin to seen and unseen forces to come and get me even more. Me, the temp identity who is playing this useless, stupid human game. The real me is indestructible.
Goodbye guys! Enjoy not being a target of cowardly forces that never show their faces.
No physical pain is more excrutiating than bowing down to a vermine who represents vermines 1000 times worse than him.
It is fine, post in peace. I will be gone from this forum for good. I did not come here to find friends nor to be appreciated.
Your opinions of me means less to me than some lemons in my fridge.
I came here to piss off the cowards of SOI snd their invisible masters.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: RUN_FOREST_RUN ()
Date: July 03, 2022 10:41PM

Why did you buy lemons and put them in your fridge if they don't matter to you?

As I've suggested before and will do so for the last time since you're gone for good:

Please try to seek psychiatric help. See a therapist regularly. It helps. It helped me. It helps others to get over this cult and the junk they filled your mind with.

In the meantime, enjoy your life as much as you can. No invisible cult demons will get you.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: July 04, 2022 03:34AM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> The effing reincarnation and karma system mindless
> devotees find fair and fantastic? The most cruel
> system that can ever exist.

The concept seems cruel. The world is also cruel. And people are cruel. Why, for example, butchers in a slaughterhouse break the legs of a slaughtered calf? Why this unnecessary pain when the target is meat. Unnecessary cruelty even if someone accepts it as philosophically ok.

> Or maybe they will be slaves in the astral realms
> or something.

These are familiar concepts. The demons are dragging to hell, the heavenly underground planets or the concept of the Necromongers and the Underverse.

RUN_FOREST_RUN Wrote:
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> Please try to seek psychiatric help. See a
> therapist regularly. It helps. It helped me. It
> helps others to get over this cult and the junk
> they filled your mind with.

That's true. Psychologists or psychiatrists can help at some level. In a variety of ways. NLP specialists identifying and clearly showing the recruitment techniques used by the sects.

Disturbed self-esteem, guilt or loss.

For example: banners from mantra.pl about happiness. Balakhilya das will say happiness is easy. Banner says - don't be a sucker like many, get lucky. In other words - a sense of loss (because it is so easy) and a sense of worth (you'll be a loser if you don't listen to Papa Midgett's wonderful material). It's from the last few days.

A beautiful marvelous picture becomes scratchy. Of course, somewhere there is a question of conceptually challenging lofty ideas or their representatives. Examples: J.B.Midgett's letters were researched by an NLP specialist. The statements were analyzed. In the context of the facts. transfer, extensions, constrictions. The recruitment motive, the structure of the group hierarchy could be identified. Of course, "jalpa" is good - to undermine authority with his own philosophy.

A psychiatrist can help by showing that being overly religious and the resulting panic is a symptom of the disease. The Ayurvedist can help by prescribing care for another human being as therapy - selfless ("punya"). And so on. You go out of the group, meet homeless, help them, no ideology, no recruitment. Just help.



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