Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: March 30, 2022 10:34PM

Vera City, I have gone down the rabbit hole for many years now and aware of the WEF.
Very informative post. Thank you.
I have seen a few people mention it in youtube comments. Those who are smart can see through TG’s BS.
Unfortunately most are under the spell of her youth, average decent looks, the fact that she served in the army, hold spititual and moral values…
What makes me smile is when she just throws the word Elite here and there. I am almost sure she has not even done deeper research.
Of course one cannot enter politics without being exposed to corruption.
Same way as when you own a Casino, you will surely have to deal with the mafia…
In all honestly there is only one person to blame and this is the pure narcissist of god, butler.
I remember when I myself was under the spell, I thought it was cool that so called devotees would infiltrate the field of politics.
This is when I thought that buthead was the real deal.
Let us not forget that this reality is mostly the land of beggars can’t be choosers and stockholm syndrome.
When you have a potus like Biden, of course it will make Tulsi look so good.
There are cops who infiltrate the drug cartel and make themselves pass for criminals.
It would be pretty amazing if a person with true vision could get into power and do good in the world. Tulsi comes across as a levelled and solid person.
She is just very misled and she represents and extremely corrupt spiritual group.
At the end of the day what are the real ambitions of butler? To help humanity at large while he abuses his own followers? Or is it just to have his followers in a position of power.
Not bad to have a butler disciple as potus? They can maybe arrange green cards for all the free labor instead of staying illegally in the US for 10 years.
Tulsi’s success is a huge boost to the old man’s ego. And another crack trip for the devotees who think that they are the only ones holding the absolute truth.
I remember one of Tulsi’s speeches. It had butler’s signature all over it.
So imagine how good he feels that he can share his “wisdom” with the world through gabbard.
It gives them a sense purpose and happiness.
First they saved millions on Wailana salaries and now they save millions on salaries by not paying those who help her campaign.
I thought that the only ambition of a devotee should be to get closer to god and detach from the material world.
butler is pushing his devotee’s into the lion’s den while he sits in his tin foil home and have meals cooked with Evian. What an Arjuna!
Yes you are right. Not many give a damn she is in a cult, however it is still a black cloud over her head.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: March 30, 2022 10:37PM

Culthusiast, that is grand of BV Narayana to try and reach out. He owes this dude nothing.
He did not go steal his disciples. They were smart enough to see that he was more genuine than their imitation guru.
But if this is true, it is to BV Narayana’s advantage not to have associated with such a corrupt person.
Maybe they were embarrassed to ask him to wear a mask and do a parasite cleanse before meeting butler.

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Re: TULSI GABBARD AND THE WEF
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: March 30, 2022 11:04PM

Vera City Wrote:
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> What I still don’t know is how far Tulsi was
> groomed at the WEF, or if she has since opted out.
> Butler, surely approved, in want of a
> President-follower. (Then there still is that
> strange photo of Tulsi making a triangle with her
> hands on the Capital steps . . .) Never mind.

Yes, very accurate information and insights. China may, of course, pose a threat to this deal with the WEF. With their own elites and ambitions. India can then serve as a lever. And the emergence of a "Hindu" politician, leader in the US, can serve this purpose. Pivoting movements must be performed by someone who is free - Sanders. For globalism to develop, we need systemic and mental consent - a meme generator - let's take the project of linking the marriage of leaders - an American Jew and a Chinese woman. And other nationalities - stick it on. This wonderful picture is disturbed by a kitchen full of slaves. Is it a project or a possession, or is it a mere weakness? Are the limitations of the MLM-alike system of recruiting - educating dudes to extort money on supplements from hard-working technocrats?

Anyway - one of the initiates in Poland claimed that Tulsi Gabbard had been "blessed" in political activities by kosher monks in black hats - those with money.

Only WEF friends, Schwab and the rest have forgotten some important details. Scientific and non-scientific. The Bretton-Woods treaty was hostile to Poles. The Warsaw Uprising (2nd, the first there were Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto) broke out 10 days after this pact. 200 thousand victims. Destroyed city. Smiling economists...Someone paid for Warsaw? And for the victims? Not really. And this nature. Calhoun's experience. Degradation. Hard times create strong people. Strong people create prosperity. Prosperity generates weak people. Weak people generate hard times.

Comfortable asses in Hawaii will not create a perfect world. Amen.

ps. I see. Still some clairvoyants or Catholic mystics spoke about God's promise to Poles. For the fight. They did not tie up with either Hitler or Stalin. They suffered a sacrifice. If this Promise is true, and Mr. Schwab's plans are hostile to Poles, and God exists, then I'm afraid these plans will go to hell.



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: March 30, 2022 11:11PM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> When you have a potus like Biden, of course it
> will make Tulsi look so good.

All these activities are bizarre, risky, stupid and naive. Their only justification has nothing to do with spirituality, morality. The wonderful Tulsi is accused of being a Russian asset ... She was with Assad.

And what is Asad doing today? He sends fighters to Ukraine. The Ukrainians showed great seriousness and compromised the Russian army. What could be the place of the Syrians in this war? Any moral justification? Nothing. Assad turned out to be paradoxically what was accused of being.

But of course, namaste, haribol, aloha, shalom ..

And Daddy Mike was a Catholic, then a Hindu, then he burns Hanukkah candles, the world is on fire but namaste, haribol, aloha ... shalom.

Truth wins Wrote:
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> Culthusiast, that is grand of BV Narayana to try
> and reach out. He owes this dude nothing.
> He did not go steal his disciples. They were smart
> enough to see that he was more genuine than their
> imitation guru.
> But if this is true, it is to BV Narayana’s
> advantage not to have associated with such a
> corrupt person.
> Maybe they were embarrassed to ask him to wear a
> mask and do a parasite cleanse before meeting
> butler.

I know. A man opened his eyes and wanted to go away. And went away...

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: March 31, 2022 07:52AM

Just came across a young woman who said that her mom was kicked out of SoI for being gay (old timer). She has actively tried to expose the Tulsi scam.
Another kid victim such as Rama.
Not all who fight them have come on this site apparently.
Odd fact: Vishwananda and butler share the same birthday. Unlucky 13.
Funny how he is not even truthful about his birthday and they made it the 14. lol!
Short video of another fake guru hypocrite Vishwananda who pretends he is so advanced and then manipulates staright men to have sex with him.
What parasites!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: March 31, 2022 12:10PM

Tulsi’s answer to journalist

On whether she thinks it’s inappropriate to ask a presidential candidate about growing up in a home with shrines to a man who is considered a cult leader

“I do. I think that is a very religious bigoted question to ask because it just shows the lack of even interest or understanding about what Hinduism, Vaishnava Hinduism, is about. Right now you're taking misinformation smears and bigoted attacks from other media sources and trying to pose them as sincere questions and I think that's offensive.”


MISINFORMATION SMEARS?

You see. The sad thing is that she genuinely does nkt understand she is in a cult.
And that ignorant person wants t sit in the oval office.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: March 31, 2022 08:10PM

"the lack of even interest or understanding about what Hinduism, Vaishnava Hinduism, is about"

"what Hinduism is about"?

Yoga, Vedanta, Nyaya, Samkhya, Vaisesika, Mimamsa...

Grandpa Midgett and Sir Archarya das say that vedanta is yoga...

What do ya say? That's philosophy? Religion is different. Vishnuism, sivaism, shaktism...Yeah..

"what Vaishnava Hinduism is about"?

About God, not politics. Politicians are said to be banned from some Hindu temples. Anyway, about relation with God. Isvaria or madhurya. Manjari Bhav Sri Caitanya said. Wait! Tulsi said that Sir Caitanya promoted karma yoga .. Wait a minute ...

But you know. When we are in politics people want to know who is behind you or who pays you. "Guru is behind me". I know. And behind him another. Parampara. Wait, there is Narada Muni in this Parampara and he did not initiate woman ... Wait a minute ... They say Tulsi is initiated. And what about the Guru. Oh, he is paramahamsa. Wait a minute. Broken sanyasa wows - can still be paramahamsa? Forget parampara. let's follow money. Who gives him money? God gave him money? Come on, Godfather. You mean Bowler? No, his is now Christopher. I thought he is Patrick. Yes, he's still Patrick. Not Swayze. Swayze is gone ... Can't you believe?

I know. Guru can change rules. What rules? Everything? Our guru sad that second marriage must be vanaprastha level? Really? Then why to promote marriage ceremony with Moses Williams. Sorry, Abraham Williams. Who are Moses and Abraham? Brothers. Like what? Like Williams Sisters..Ok, now i understand. But why not Jesus Williams? Jesus died on the cross...



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: April 02, 2022 07:40AM

What is quite amazing is that they try to promote the philosophy and krishna after literally destroying the reputation of krishna.
I see so many strangers commenting as to how much Hawaii locals load them.
How disrespectful they are…
They kind of just do whatever the hell they want.
The deities will still reward anybody who worships them.
I remember when I was changing with these clowns, I would torture myself all the time by thinking that I was displeasing to Krishna.
Well I would because this is how the leader would make us feel. Before that I had the most fear free relation with god.
While the asses had been criminals all along.
I am not sure how a loving god could have watched them destroy so many people foe so many years.
Imagine if butler dies before Tulsi runs for potus, she will be safe. Because noone could any longer say that he is her handler.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Culthusiast ()
Date: April 02, 2022 08:51PM

Truth wins Wrote:
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> What is quite amazing is that they try to promote
> the philosophy and krishna after literally
> destroying the reputation of krishna.

There have been such suggestions that this is a deliberate action.

Option 1) Discouraging to the rigorism of Indology, higher philosophy. Keep people ignorant. An alliance with the Vatican?

Option 2) Grounding for financial purposes, ordered by the financiers. As with the doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses, for example, there is a persistent tendency to focus on "living on this earth." "God is in heaven and blesses." "most won't go there." Codex approach to the Bible (much better here than SoI - here the scriptures are neglected).

Option 3) The ambition of some leaders or the 5th column - the presence of the 5th column is suspected even by the still present SoI / SiF members. This is not surprising since SoI's story has members of the Haiku Meditaion School, followers of Chris Butler that came with him. Impersonal roots. And this wandering here and there of Yoga-Nidra.

Don't you believe it? Tell me the who, when and why gave a picture of Chris Butler the eyes of Sri Krishna in Photoshop. And they had it on their own webpages - because if it was on some hostile website, no proof. Who, when, why. In Russian - name, surname, address ...

Or maybe all at once. Mixing one's demonisms, Hawaiian convenience and making alliances - whoever pays. Politics? Ok, we get founding for our villas.

Villas. That lack of water and electricity makes Papa Dolphin a hero...Great hero.



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: Truth wins ()
Date: April 03, 2022 01:41AM

To be honest with you, I have no trust in anything and anyone.
Why didn’t the so called divine forces take care of butler. They have shown me their full power. And I have no doubt that they can arrange absolutely anything.
Imagine how easy it would have been to have a white shark take a good bite out of butler in the ocean. Problem solved.
Same thing with all the Iskcon gurus. All roaming around carefree.
The only one who seems to have paid some Karma is Jayapatka. And even though he can barely speak, people worship him even more because they think his faith is so amazing.
Or maybe he cannot give up being worshipped even though he can barely be understood and it is painful to hear him speak.
Sometimes one must retire with humility. But these demons are so high on their guru ego trip that they would rise out of their ashes if they could, to have one more round of praise.
Do you know what kind of synchronicities were pulled in my lige in order for me to end up in the most abusive center of SoI? I was almost forced to get in there.
How am I to know which forces pushed me there and why?
At the end of the day we have all these scriptures but we will never know how this reality is operated. And the how and why.
Maybe the cowards I spoke to are right. Maybe it is all Karma and some of us were meant to get used and abused by either SoI or Iskcon.
If that is not the case then why are some doing so well at SoI. Just enjoying the good side of the cult and posting their best lives on Instagram while some of us will be carrying the wounds of spiritual abuse for life.
And when I finally left and decided not to take the abuse at SoI, I was met with something 1000 times worse. It was almost as though I was punished for not continuing to suck up the spiritual abuse.
We truly have no answers as to why demonic forces were so easily allowed to roam in these 2 corrupt groups while BV Narayana’s groups is seemingly much cleaner?
I could have very well ended up there. At the time I had enough ambitions and sincerity to put up with the austerities.
Since I have seen both forces operate in my own life, I know that they could have stopped both butler and the Iskcon gurus in a heartbeat.
But this show was allowed to be carried out organically. And yes for sure it has not been all bad.
Many have found happiness and solace form the miseries of their material lives, given up addictions, found bliss… but at what price?
And I can tell you 10000 percent that the forces who run the show know the outcome of everything before it happens.
They can intervene at any time or change the script.
Why did they let the show to go on at the price of having their own reputation and name tarnished?
SoI has always had that mentality of the show must go on at any price. All that counts is to carry out the orders of the dog master.
And once you stop being useful, they would throw you in the trash.
midget let all the abusive center leaders carry on and all he did was to play psychologist at every retreat. Get his massages, worship, ski, mountain biking. Then on to another center. More abuse and suicides.
But who gives a damn as long as outreach and wailana goes on. As long as their gangster guru was pleased with them.
They all surendered to evil and closed their eyes. And those who get abused snd still bring in souls are also criminals.
I no longer have compassion for them. They are part of the problem.
SoI is operates by the law of the jungle and the sruvival of the fittest. You are either a prey or a predator. And buthead is the lion king.
I doubt butler tarnsihed the names of the deities on purpose. He was allowed to do all of this.
I am not sure he even thinks he did anything wrong because he thinks that all he does is perfect.
And all the karma that he gets is few hundred pages on this forum and some articles. He sees it as demons trying to persecute the pure devotee.
Maybe at the end of the day the joke is on us. Those who have been abused and who can see the abuse.
Because those brainwashed souls are still in bliss land and happy the found the one and only 33rd Acarya.

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