Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: atheist ()
Date: May 27, 2011 01:32PM

Tulsi Gabbard, currently a Honolulu City Councilwoman, has announced today that she is running to replace U.S. Representative Mazie Hirono in the U.S. House of Representatives.

If Tulsi were to win, she would represent the Hawaii 2nd Congressional District. The 2nd Congressional District covers rural Oahu and all the other Hawaiian Islands except for Oahu.

U.S. Representative Mazie Hirono is leaving office to run for the U.S. Senate, to replace Senator Daniel Akaka. Tulsi once worked for Senator Akaka as an aide.

Tulsi has only been in the Honolulu City Council since January 3rd, 2011, so it is less than a year. She does not have to leave her Honolulu City Council office to run for the U.S. Congress.

Ironically, Tulsi moved from the 2nd Congressional District into the downtown Honolulu area to run for her City Council seat. Tulsi does not have to move back into the 2nd Congressional District to run for the U.S. Congress. Even if she wins, she does not have to move into the district to represent it (she only has to live in the State of Hawaii).

Tulsi's father, Hawaii State Senator Mike Gabbard (Krishna Katha das), ran for the U.S. 2nd Congressional District seat in 2004, as a Republican, against the incumbent Democrat, Ed Case. Ed Case won handily (63% of the vote).

Gabbard to announce run for U.S. House seat

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: May 29, 2011 07:40AM

Well, looks like its time for some more issues to come forward that tie in her name with the cult's name, don't you think?
There is a lady who was on here before courtesy of another poster who runs a blog and outlined the
issues that people have with this cult. It is time to contact this lady, I think her blog is 'Pamela's Corner" and see if
she is interested in putting up some more information about Tulsi's connection with this cult.
Secondly, who is Tulsi running against?
Thirdly, what is this cult up to these days? Has anyone seen the "bogi yogi" recently?
You would think that the Oahu constituents would want to know about the newest puppet candidate that this
"bogi yogi" is trotting out now.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: just-googling ()
Date: June 01, 2011 12:32AM

Hey, Vox, do you have a link for the Pamela's Corner blogspot?

Thanks.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: June 01, 2011 10:09AM

Hi Googs--I think its about 100 pages back !! Will see if I can locate it!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: atheist ()
Date: June 02, 2011 06:16PM

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VoxVeritasVita Das
who is Tulsi running against?

Right now, Tulsi Gabbard is the only announced candidate for this office, to replace U.S. Representative Mazie Hirono in the Hawaii 2nd Congressional District (all of Hawaii except Honolulu).

So she is the first.

Right now they are talking about former Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann, a Democrat, and former Republican Lt. Governor Duke Aiona as possible candidates for this office. Neither Hannemann or Aiona offer much difference from Tulsi as they are deeply religious and both were said to have connections to the "International Transformation Network" which was an issue in the November 2010 General Election. The "International Transformation Network" is a worldwide Dominionist Christian organization, said to be involved in Uganda in the Bahati bill that calls for the execution of gays under certain circumstances. "Dominionist" means that they aim for a Christian Theocracy.

Neither Mufi Hannemann, a Mormon, or Duke Aiona, a conservative Catholic, support equal rights for LGBT people or a woman's right to choose, so they are most likely the same as Tulsi Gabbard, Mike Gabbard or Jagad Guru on these issues.

Talk 2 Action - Two Years of Articles about the International Transformation Network

During the Hawaii November 2010 General Election, the Honolulu media was very reluctant to cover information about the International Transformation Network, just like they have been very reluctant to cover the Science of Identity Foundation cult's close connections to the Gabbard Family over the past 18 years.

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VoxVeritasVita Das
what is this cult up to these days? Has anyone seen the "bogi yogi" recently?

This cult keeps a very low profile. You rarely read or hear about it in the Hawaii media.

If "bogi yogi" is Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa aka Chris Butler, I don't think anyone has seen him publicly for years.

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CHANT FOR GLOBAL PEACE MY ASS
Posted by: Vera City ()
Date: June 06, 2011 02:07AM

UPDATE for those who were not able to attend the Butler Recruitment Festival in Sacramento aka “Chant for Global Peace Festival”.
Notice that Butler is not mentioned anywhere. But all his followers seem to run the show. Old Jivan appears in many videos (Manjari Mantra Band). Miniature Ratha Yatra carts with Krishna idols were brought out in the festival. They didn’t have much of a turn out. Looks like the local cult regulars attending.
[www.facebook.com]
Channel 10 in Sacramento did a fluff interview with organizer and long-time Butler cultist Edna Albano.
(Is it just me or does Edna remind you of Ms. Swan on MAD TV just a smidge?)
[www.news10.net]
People should contact Guy Farris and refer him to the Rick Ross forum. Guy needs to be informed that he was inadvertently promoting a dangerous cult under the cover of “world peace”. But how could he really know? It all looks so cool and innocent.
Edna Albano is a long time follower of Butler from the Philippines who has run PR and centers for Butler for years. She has produced a film called The Forgotten Jewel (Lotus Films Productions) in which her daughter Tulsi stars. Edna is one of Butler’s useful idiots with promotion skills. Notice the similarity between Wai Lana’s martial art kid’s productions (Karma Kula, Little Ninjai) and this film.
Forgotten Jewel link:
[www.theforgottenjewel.net]
Ironic that the bad guy in this film has real control issues, thinks he is g0d, and behaves like a petulant child…very Chris-like – LOL! In fac,t there is one scene with the bad guy wearing sun glasses that looks like a young Butler with his sardonic smile!
Links on Chant for Global Peace Festival and Gauranga Yoga Foundation:
[www.facebook.com]
[www.sacramento365.com]
[www.implu.com]
In Albano’s Name Only – NOT Chris Butler, even though he is behind EVERYTHING they do.
Trance Dance or Psychic Sleep with Edna?
Psychic Sleep was a meditation technique used by Butler in his Sai days, but reinstituted in recent decades because it is so useful at influencing people.
[www.yogafinder.com]
In case you were wondering what ever happened to Prabhu Das (Pablito Davidas), one of Siddha’s/Butler’s Filippino singing followers – here is his music. Sings a LOT better than Siddha!
[www.cdbaby.com]
[www.searchavideo.com]

With all that we know about cults and mind control, it still does puzzle me how great, creative talents constrict themselves to Butler’s world view so completely.
They think they are saving the world by chanting, feeding people food offered to idols, and giving all their money to an aging narcissist. They end up sincerely promoting and worshipping his underground image, his black mirror, instead of expressing their own spirit and becoming more compassionate towards each other and the world. They may have genuine spiritual feelings and care for humanity, but it gets shoveled down Butler’s black hole. This forum is full of the results. So there is a sick irony to this Chant for Global Peace festival. Just ask the children who are not allowed to associate with a non-devotee parent or family member. Ask the woman with bulimia about the compassion she received from this group? Ask the children neglected while their parents served Butler. Ask former followers about the disparity between the philosophy and what is actually practiced on the ground.

Ms Swan:
[www.youtube.com]

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Re: CHANT FOR GLOBAL PEACE MY ASS
Date: June 06, 2011 07:12AM

Quote: With all that we know about cults and mind control, it still does puzzle me how great, creative talents constrict themselves to Butler’s world view so completely.
They think they are saving the world by chanting, feeding people food offered to idols, and giving all their money to an aging narcissist. They end up sincerely promoting and worshipping his underground image, his black mirror, instead of expressing their own spirit and becoming more compassionate towards each other and the world. They may have genuine spiritual feelings and care for humanity, but it gets shoveled down Butler’s black hole. This forum is full of the results. So there is a sick irony to this Chant for Global Peace festival. Just ask the children who are not allowed to associate with a non-devotee parent or family member. Ask the woman with bulimia about the compassion she received from this group? Ask the children neglected while their parents served Butler. Ask former followers about the disparity between the philosophy and what is actually practiced on the ground. "

Thanks Vera City !! Excellent observation. Ask us indeed !! The walking wounded. So where is the bogi yogi?
Yes, where is Butler? His minions are certaily still scurrying about it seems. Those in the inner circle are still
carying on those endless projects it seems. They even still try & contact some of the ones who have escaped- oops I mean "left"-- to still ask for help, or so I hear. Of course by doing that they are exposing the fact that NOTHING has changed and no one is around who actually knows what they are doing. Ergo, wasted hours on a wasted idea (Butler). By getting Tulsi involved deeper into politics he still wants to be in control on a political field.
The poeple who may want to vote for Tulsi need to be told who really is behind the candidate, just like the people
in Sacramento need to be told what the Chant for Global Peace really stands for. The black hole of Butler- most appropriate !!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: dharmabum ()
Date: June 06, 2011 03:00PM

Thanks Vera for the materials.
Pathetic. Chant for Global Peace? Speak the Truth, why not tell the people about the cult, Science of Identity. Shame on you, Edna Albano, you were lying through your teeth and you know that, thus the ego trip - teaching yoga for eleven years. First of all your movie sucks, how cheesy could you get? You people will try anything under the sun to mislead, no matter how stupid they look, you'll never be trendy again no matter how hard you try. You know you meant to mislead, and even involved your daughter to lie about the cult, you're pathetic. Didn't Butler taught us in the 70s that yoga exercises are superficial yoga and only practice Bhakti? This Wai Lana trend is a new trick to recruit followers through yoga exercises, because the old tricks don't work anymore; and the cult is trying to capitalize on the yoga fashion among ordinary people, especially the executives. Well, this is not the 70s, and you and your pathetic members have no place in this age of the internet and everything will backfire in your faces. Save yourselves further humiliation, you will be exposed, that's inevitable. If you love your families, you will abandon the cult, it's a sinking ship. The feces mouth Chris Butler will end up eating up his guruship and blast you even at the end of all this, for being so stupid. Shame on you Jivan, you shouldn't be singing the mahamantra, guru's order. I bet you got blasted for that too. Stop trying, this is a different age, your children would know soon and you all will end up paying the price for being brain-dead parents. By the way you all looked so stupid, it didn't work. The world has indeed changed a lot, sadly you all looked leftovers of the bygone era. Eww!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: atheist ()
Date: June 13, 2011 12:33PM

"Gabbard has choco streak"

The Honolulu Star-Advertiser has a feature every Friday: "5 Things We Love." The number one "thing we loved" on 06/10/11 was "Gabbard has choco streak," candies from "Hawaiian Toffee Treasures," a business run by Hawaii State Senator Mike Gabbard (Krishna Katha das) and his wife, Carol Gabbard (Devahuti dasi).

Honolulu Star-Advertiser: "5 Things We Love"

Most of the "things we love" blurbs look like they are written by Honolulu Star-Advertiser staffers. This one was contributed by "Christine Stevens, Kailua."

Does anyone recognize the name "Christine Stevens?"

The Gabbard's little business got a little free promotion from the only Honolulu daily newspaper. Maybe they are trying to ramp up their business and profits a little. Or maybe they need to ramp up business and profits a little to help with Tulsi's run the the U.S. House of Representatives.

When Mike Gabbard began running for public office, he represented himself as a "successful small businessman." They had "Hawaiian Toffee Treasures" going at that time, but you certainly didn't hear much about it. I guess you could call it a business with a "cult following." It certainly wasn't any obvious success. Their other businesses didn't look that hot, either.

It appears that the business operates only by phone and on the internet. You never see "Hawaiian Toffee Treasures" in stores, at least not in the Honolulu area.

Presumably, Jagad Guru Chris Butler would get some of the proceeds from this business. Does anyone have any idea what Jagad Guru Chris Butler's cut would be?

With favored devotees such as Krishna Katha das and Devahuti dasi, if they were struggling, would the Science of Identity Foundation and/or Jagad Guru Chris Butler help a devotee out financially?

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: just-googling ()
Date: June 15, 2011 12:34AM

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atheist
Presumably, Jagad Guru Chris Butler would get some of the proceeds from this business. Does anyone have any idea what Jagad Guru Chris Butler's cut would be?

A good devout cult member would give 50 percent to their guru... Otherwise they would be guilty of working for their own "sense gratification" and these cult members are heavily programmed about this topic.

So many people on power trips and leading excessive greedy lifestyles ... a new age might be rolling in ... their days might be numbered!

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