Krishna group in Hawaii
Date: May 13, 2005 01:50PM
If I have offended anyone with a flip remark made about Krishna being a war God, please excuse me. He did drive the chariot for Arjuna, as well as order Arjuna to fight and kill, so I don't think I'm too far off base.
I personally don't have a clue as to what God looks like, eats, does for entertainment, etc. I have engaged in various religious practices in my life, but have never claimed to Believe, (in the sense that I Know in my Heart for Sure), in any. I suppose it could be called hypocritical to Seek, by some standards. I have bowed down to Krishna, Jesus, The pope, Rimpoche, The Divine Mother, and Jagad Guru at times, so I guess I am guilty of Hypocracy. In my opinion I was being Polite.
But, I think the point here is not worship of GOD, but whether or not it is OK to use deception as a means of disquising your real intentions, of operating as a political entity and hiding behind the facade of religious devotion, of using devious means to lure people into your belief system and discarding those people who will not adhere to Your belief that your (all too human) leader is a perfect devotee of god and therefore invulnerable to critism.
If you want to be a politician, be a politician.
If you want to be a religious leader, be a religious leader.
When Politics and religion are intermingled, especially when the mixing is done in a covert fashion as in the case of Gabbard, very nasty things happen.
Think Children's crusade.
Think conquest of South America and Mexico.
And think Iraq, Iran, and the situation in the middle east.
Also, think of the fact that worship of Krishna, whether you care to admit it or not, is the worship of a Hindu diety, and would be considered as heresy and Devil worship by our present religio-political leaders.
Jumping on the fundamentalist Christian Bandwagon does not a Christian make. And denying affiliation with an essentially non-Christian sect (I won't use the word cult anymore, although I still believe it applies), does not an honest politician make.
Flawed though I may be, I take a stand for Truth and Compassion, and abhor all that is cloaked in darkness; the darkness of presenting a false front, of scapegoating a section of the populace, of using lies and fake smiles to hide a desire for personal advancement, of pretending affection that does not exist.
I also stand for Freedom of Speech. From all that I have seen, which isn't much, I dislike Chris Butler, the nationalistic views of the devotees I have had contact with, and the rampant antihomosexualism that seems to be at the very core of the teachings I have been party to.
I don't need an intermediary to talk to God. I certainly don't need Jagad Guru. And I don't mix religion and politics. Ever. Period.
I'm curious as to why this forum has suddenly become so popular with the defenders of the faith. I found it when I was looking for websites dedicated to the word of Chris B. Didn't find any, but I did find this forum asking a lot of questions about him. Is that such a threat? Is questioning verboten? So it would appear.
And no, you don't know me. Not even a little.
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