And so what if they're actually building an embassy?
Right now, its seeming like a mystery thriller to me.

Sorry or have I just misunderstood you.

"Kinda seems like the monies for the so called embassy to be built".

Are you saying they're saving the money for the Embassy?

these cults and groups get their followers to lie for them all the time. Sometimes with a rationalization, other times they lie to them, and they just do what they are told.

For example, Brigitte Boisselier
[en.wikipedia.org]
she could be making the clone stuff up to please Rael, or just repeating what she is told.

Notice they say the have the clones, but they can't test them, due to fear of them being taken away. Very clever.
Same with his projects, they never happen.
Its a scam to get donations.

Also, there seem to be some sex-workers in the Raelians? If true, obviously some of those folks have a lot of income, and they would be outraged by the genital mutilation, and give a lot of money to Rael for this.

Rael is a sick person, anyone who would put a Nazi swastika inside a Star of David is truly vile. He seems like a clown, but he is quite a clever cynical manipulator of people.
Sex sells, he knows that.

Have you checked this out:
[en.wikipedia.org]

But I remember Anticult saying that none of the Clonaid facilities existed.
Where are the supposed places and how do we know they're hoaxes?

restless:

What is your purpose posting at this message board?

See [www.culteducation.com]

The Raelian group has cloned no one and uses various publicity stunts simply to garner attention and feed Vorilhon's seemingly insatiable ego.

The Raelian group appears to be little more than a con, run by Claude Vorilhon, to fund his lifestyle.

You are going back and forth, almost as if you are playing a game here.

Do you somehow think Vorilhon's stories and/or claims reflect reality?

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restless:

What is your purpose posting at this message board?

At first it was to explain my experience with researching Raelism and hoping to hear from any Ex-Raelians and later as
I scrolled through this thread, to learn more behind Rael's motives and such.

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The Raelian group has cloned no one and uses various publicity stunts simply to garner attention and feed Vorilhon's seemingly insatiable ego.

The Raelian group appears to be little more than a con, run by Claude Vorilhon, to fund his lifestyle.
You are going back and forth, almost as if you are playing a game here.

I'm sorry. Perhaps I was rather obsessed with how he came up with his story and whether it is true he lied plus
if they actually... You know.

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Do you somehow think Vorilhon's stories and/or claims reflect reality?

I certainly did at first but as time went by, I am beginning to see the far-fecthes of it yet a part of me still fears the possibility of it being true.
Especially when I read some of Rael's claims such as the prophets like Buddha and Jesus having been doing the Elohim's dirty work but
that their messages were messed up and of course when I read a short review on one of Rael's books on Amazon.
He said stuff like "Yeah that stuff seems far-fetched but its not..." and was praising the text as "Scientific interpretation of the bible".

But even if it is all true, I swear by my life I would never join Rael or follow his philosophy and I was raised in a Christian community where
we believe God as a loving, merciful and selfless entity, not an alien who wants us to love ourselves, sexual and make clones of ourselves.
(To be honest, I'm not really a christian but my friends and familt still accept me. Compare that with Rael's values!)

restless:

What direct experienc do you have with the Raelians?

What specific involvement did you have with them?

Did you actually attend meetings, events, programs?

Please explain your level of involvement.

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restless:

What direct experienc do you have with the Raelians?

What specific involvement did you have with them?

Did you actually attend meetings, events, programs?

Please explain your level of involvement.

I never had any direct experience or involvement with Raelians.
I merely just looked them up thoroughly.

Are you going to ban me for being a fraud or something?

restless:

No.

Just wanted to establish if you were an ex-member or not and what your level of involvement actually was or is with the group.

Seems like you browsed the Internet and found their material and never really joined the group directly and/or participated with their programs.