Christopher Hansard
Date: May 24, 2007 07:52PM
Re: Atlantic's Comments.
[i:d30c7e689a]On my travels I have met many Tibetans in exile who speak very good English. Tibetan communities have been moving through the surrounding areas (ie China, Bhutan, India etc..) for many years. [/i:d30c7e689a]
Indeed they have however Hansard states clearly that his 'mysterious' teacher came from Amdo, from the so-called and mythical gNam tribe. That being so this 'person' was not part of a Tibetan Dispaora that had acquired English, besides which at the period we are talking about (Hansard's claim of being only four years old) the numbers of Tibetans abroad comprised newly arrived refugees in the hill states of India, knowledge of English was not common in any sense. That being so Hansard's 'teacher' coming from the wild grasslands of Amdo-Tibet itself would have been highly unlikely to have spoken English, and certainly not of fluency to transmit the vast and complex knwoedlege f Tibetan medicine, apart from the spurious 'teachings' of Dur Con.[/color:d30c7e689a]
[i:d30c7e689a]People also acquire passports and national status by living in a country, as well as being born there. It is certainly possible that a Tibetan could be viewed as Chinese (for example) on official documentation. [/i:d30c7e689a]
Any Tibetan travelling from Tibet would indeed be required to use a Chinese passport, even for the period we are talking about. The name however would be the same, as Tibetan names cannot easily be transliterated in Chinese, being a comletely different language. This is academic anyway, as if you care to study Tibetan history for the period 1950 to 1971 you will conclude it extremely improbabale that any Tibetan would be granted travel papers by the Communist Chinese regime. [/color:d30c7e689a]
[i:d30c7e689a]Namkhai Norbu writes for about 200 pages on the subject of 'The Tradition of The 12 Lores'. How could you possibly have missed this? Perhaps you know more about Tibetan history and culture than Professor Norbu? [/i:d30c7e689a]
Maybe he has, however that does not detract from the fact that this was not a school or lineage per se, [i:d30c7e689a]Changter,[/i:d30c7e689a] refers to a 'treasure' found in ZanZang, Nothern Tibet.[/color:d30c7e689a]
[i:d30c7e689a]Why do you insist on completely rejecting all the first hand reports and experiences that have been posted on this site? [/i:d30c7e689a]
These are subjective and personal experiences that do not in an objective maner constitute any verifyable evidence that Hansard's claims or 'tradition' is either authentic or valid[/color:d30c7e689a]
[i:d30c7e689a]What have the Bonpo community done with personal information of abuse that has, according to Dorje, been available to them for AT LEAST 7 YEARS!!!! [/i:d30c7e689a]
Which Tibetan Bon Community do you refer to? There is not one in the UK! Please detail what personal information was made available and specifically to whom and when exactly? Then having done that reflect upon the fact the onus of responsibility to expose Hansards' activities rested, not with a community 6500 kilometres away in the Himalayan foothills, but with those well placed associates of Hansards, who were keeping a shameful sielnce in Kensington and Chelsea[/color:d30c7e689a]
Now Chris, sorry Atlantic, please keep up. This is all very elementary.