Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
dr. thomas
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Date: November 17, 2008 12:23PM
The world could certainly use a few more gods of compassion, but some how I don't think Hansard fits the bill. On the other hand at least his research was not all lies. According to Russian based Bon practitiioners there is such a things as the Northern Treasure School:
"Tönpa Shenrab taught his doctrines in two systems: The first classification is called Thegpa Rimgu`i Bön (2) (Theg-pa rim-dgu`i bon), the “Bön of Nine Successive Stages” or, as it is more commonly known, the “Nine Ways of Bön,” of which there are three versions: the Lhoter (lho-gter) or “Southern Treasure,” the Jangter (byang-gter) or “Northern Treasure” and the Uter (dBu-gter) or “Central Treasure”.
Hansard seems to have added three to the twelve to make his system of 12 ways, which I understand, but cannot verify, was once proposed by Mr. Norbu.
"Tönpa Shenrab taught his doctrines in two systems: The first classification is called Thegpa Rimgu`i Bön (2) (Theg-pa rim-dgu`i bon), the “Bön of Nine Successive Stages” or, as it is more commonly known, the “Nine Ways of Bön,” of which there are three versions: the Lhoter (lho-gter) or “Southern Treasure,” the Jangter (byang-gter) or “Northern Treasure” and the Uter (dBu-gter) or “Central Treasure”.
Hansard seems to have added three to the twelve to make his system of 12 ways, which I understand, but cannot verify, was once proposed by Mr. Norbu.
Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
Gita
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Date: November 18, 2008 12:41AM
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dr. thomas
On the other hand at least his research was not all lies
I am sure his victims of sexual exploitation, harassment, and one practitioner has offered rape, will find that most reassuring, but of course that is not what you meant I know. But again I would have you come back to minding how he used this information and research to lure clients to him, coercing them into either sexual favours or long term financial investments. Many clients complained of the number of times he insisted he needed to see them per week, some up to 4 times a week for many years and when questioned or challenged, he rebounds with rage and aggression wielding his authority over those turning to him for help. Though aggression is not all that is used, he has also been known to employ self-pity drawing upon his clients sympathies, or he simply blames the patient saying they are not open to the treatment, not worthy of the teachings, and not to waste his time. The rage and seeming apathy or exasperation trigger and play upon peoples fear of rejection, and the self-pity of course works on their empathy. With all the advertising he has already done and the many endorsements by some very irresponsible and equally unethical therapists, all he need do is sit back and wait for clients/victims to come to him.
Going on the assumption that you are yourself a practitioner, what would your redress be then for his victims dr. thomas?
Assuming you had to counsel or take care of one of his victims of assault, what would you offer them? Say you had a crying woman in your office relaying the story of how her therapist, Christopher Hansard made her 'do things to him', that she 'did not want to do'?
Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
dr. thomas
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Date: November 18, 2008 01:35AM
1. Complaint to the governing association.
2. Complaint to the police.
3. Lawsuit.
4. Direct confrontation.
5. Accept your own responsibility in what happened and move on.
Whichever applies.
In the scenario you describe the woman would need a lot of support doing any of those things and besides any therapeutic assistance that might be required I would help her decide what she wants to do and how she can safely do it.
As far as the financial end of it goes, there is nothihng much you can do unless you can prove it was obtained fraudulently, or your life was heavily impact by false pretenses - otherwise it is just a service contract which you go into knowingly, buyer beware.
These are my thoughts at this point.
2. Complaint to the police.
3. Lawsuit.
4. Direct confrontation.
5. Accept your own responsibility in what happened and move on.
Whichever applies.
In the scenario you describe the woman would need a lot of support doing any of those things and besides any therapeutic assistance that might be required I would help her decide what she wants to do and how she can safely do it.
As far as the financial end of it goes, there is nothihng much you can do unless you can prove it was obtained fraudulently, or your life was heavily impact by false pretenses - otherwise it is just a service contract which you go into knowingly, buyer beware.
These are my thoughts at this point.
Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
Gita
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Date: November 22, 2008 11:08AM
With the assistance of his therapist, Christopher Hansard distributed letters reintroducing himself to past clients and announcing his move to his present practice at 6 Lower Grosvenor Place in Victoria. Knowing of Christopher's past abuses, his two primary therapists continued to encourage Christopher Hansard to practice and even to gain credentials. Knowing of his fraud, that being the published versions of the story of his teachings in 3 books, that are directly responsible for 100's of clients in some cases investing thousands of pounds in fraudulent, ineffective procedures and treatments, and many others suffering sexual exploitation, abuse and coercion, his therapists continue to support, and protect Christopher Hansard from the consequences of his own actions. Despite being made aware of continuing abuses through out therapy, they continue to encourage him to practice. Despite knowing that his publications, workshops, and teachings are the symptoms of delusion, and serious illness, and were not based in reality what so ever, they support him. Despite adhering to a code of ethics themselves which they apparently disregard. One of his therapists was a prior client of Christopher Hansard's before taking him on as her own patient. As his patient she believed wholly his story of spiritual training, and as his therapist defended his delusions as they validate her own beliefs. For a brief period, the other therapist enjoyed client referrals from Christopher Hansard. These are both clear examples of collusion, as is their continuing encouragement and protection when faced with the reality that Christopher Hansard is dangerous, is delusional, and their various forms of 'treatment' are not helping.
Meanwhile, Christopher Hansard continues to deny the allegations.
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: xxxx
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008
From: <christopher@xxxx.xxx>
To: xxxx@xxxx.xxx
Dear xxxx
I think it is very important to bring
some objectivity and clarity to this situation.
On first hearing about the statement which you have repeated I too through
a specialist lawyer contacted a colleague within the Sapphire Unit and
found that there had not been any such allegations made, and I was informed
that any allegations would be immediately acted upon and then would be
investigated.
I for one am sure those at the Sapphire Unit who continue to receive complaints would be very interested in Christopher's assertions in his defense, as would his victims
...These allegations made primarily over the
Internet are untrue and in twenty years of working as a practitioner I have
never had any improper sexual relationship of any type with my clients.
...These allegations containing reference to theSapphire Unit are now almost two years old.
...These are allegations only, not actual events, and there is a situation
where the old saying of 'there is no smoke without fire' does not apply,
both smoke and fire have been created. I was stalked and harassed on the
internet and in my daily life with all of these allegations.
I have checked more than once with the Sapphire Unit, as I am allowed to do, and I
have been told that there are no allegations recorded against me. As to
Witness against Abuse, anyone in the general public can go and say anything
they like to Witness against Abuse.
There has never been any action against me sponsored or advised by Witness
against Abuse. I am completely innocent of these allegations ...
...
Christopher
It was in March of 2007 that it was discovered that Christopher Hansard had taken advantage of another patient despite his many dramatic demonstrations of remorse and sadness that he claimed were caused by the continuing online allegations. His supposed suffering did not seem however to put a dent in his appetite for his patients. Mind the statement and denial of Christopher Hansard above, as you read through the correspondences that follow
"love, K.A." While practitioners do not normally encourage such affections from patients, Christopher Hansard seems to be an exception to the rules in every way. Bear in mind Christopher Hansard was 'happily' married while he lived and practiced out of his residence in Baron's Court.Quote
On 25/7/07, "K.A." <K.A.@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Daer Christopher
>
> I received a letter in the post this morning telling me about your move to
> Victoria. How funny! My brother P.A. has been wanting to get in
> touch with you, he now lives in Latvia but he comes to London regularly. He
> has in the meantime had xxxx and did not respond to any kind
> of medication. He was very ill ... Anyway next time he
> comes to London, most probably in September he will call you as he has also
> very fond memories of you from the time you were still in Barons Court.
>
> I myself have now been diagnosed with xxxx, it is not as bad
> as P.A. but I have to take medication called Azacot, it is a kind of
> antiinflammatory and acts like an aspirin.
>
> I was thinking of maybe coming to see you. I have stopped eating wheat and
> already feel much better. I am off for 3 weeks and back at end of August and
> will call you to make an appointment. Have you come across people with this
> disease.
>
> I am not sure you will remember who I am but I used to come to your flat
> before you had clinic off High street Kensington and there is a whole group
> of us that used to come and be treated by you.
> I hope to hear from you.
>
> love,
> K.A.
>
From: cheristopher hansard <ch@xxxx.xxx>
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007
To: K.A. <K.A.@xxxx.xxx>
Conversation: an old patient of yours-K.A.
Subject: Re: an old patient of yours-K.A.
Thursday 26 July 2007
Dear K.A.
Thank you for your email, informing me of your brother's condition and that
of your own. I would be happy to do what I can to assist you both in your
healing. Yes, I have had experience of this condition. I have assisted
people with xxxx, each person though needs a different
approach as they as individuals, have different needs healthwise. If you
wish to make an appointment please do so when it is most convenient. The
initial consultation will take one hour and will cost £145.00, any
subsequent treatments will be £60.00 per hour and extra costs may be
incurred if I need to prescribe and make you herbal medicines. Thank you for
your reply and I look forward to been of assistance to you and your brother.
Faithfully
Christopher Hansard
It would however not be long after K.A. began treatment that Christopher Hansard would again cross over the line in his treatment room to meet what was evidently an admiring, impressionable patient, who read all of his books, and poured over every word he said hardly disguising her school-girl crush. Christopher Hansard sent his patient K.A. an inviting iCard.
It is for this reason that some of his victims, having had their admirations confused, distorted and manipulated, are so afraid, and too ashamed to come forward even now. What they need to understand is that what happened to them, was not their fault. They did not invite it even if they found themselves having feelings of admiration. It was and is, Christopher Hansard's responsibility to uphold a duty of care, and not to take advantage of a patients vulnerable feelings and natural transference that may occur. When a practitioner crosses that line, it is counter-transference, and it is wrong, and for Christopher Hansard it is a pattern.
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---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: RE: christopher has sent you an Apple iCard
From: "K.A." <K.A.@xxxx.xxx>
Date: Fri, February 15, 2008
To: "christopher" <christopher@xxxx.xxx>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
The card is so cute, you look very curious, I look shy and feel protected
by you.
Lots love and Huge big kiss on your lips, K.A.
________________________________
> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008
> From: christopher@xxxx.xxx
> To: K.A.@xxx.xxx
> Subject: christopher has sent you an Apple iCard
>
> This iCard has been sent to you from christopher
After less than a year of treatment, Christopher Hansard was initiating a sexual relationship with K.A. or perhaps merely continuing one from long ago in Baron's Court. What ever the case, K.A. was not the only recipient of a such an amorous iCard from Christopher Hansard that day. The invitation he sent to his patient K.A. was followed by an apology only after it had been discovered by a former colleague
One of Christopher's former fiancees was Cc'd in on this apology, but his continuing sexual relation with K.A. immediately following this would only further prove the insincerity of his apology and that it was merely for demonstrationQuote
>From: "christopher hansard" <christopher@xxxx.xxx>
>To: "K.A." <K.A.@xxxx.xxx>
>Date: February 17, 2008
>Subject: Apology
>
>Dear K.A.
>
>I am writing to you to apologise for sending you the valentines card and its
>contents as this was and is highly inappropriate and wrong. As a patient it
>is unethical and morally wrong to do what I have done, and for that I am
>very sorry for creating any false illusions and for instigating any possible
>behaviours that may have lead you to believe that things could go further.
>
>I am very sorry and offer a complete and unreserved apology for my
>inappropriate behaviour.
>
>Sincerely
>Christopher Hansard
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----------------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008
> From: christopher@xxxx.xxx
> To: K.A.@xxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: christopher sent you a Care2 eCard!
>
> Did you read the poem my love i love u
>
> K.A. wrote:
>> That is a sweet card, it says I love you on a pink heart.
>>
>> Kisses
>> K.A.
>> ________________________________
Despite this seeming 'budding relationship' with his patient, he attempted to seduce another patient in May who was vulnerable with concussion. Once she was feeling stronger she attempted to confront Christopher, the result was he told his patient that she was the one in the wrong, and that it was all part of her own transference. Something his therapist had taught him.
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From: "R.R." <R.R.@xxxx.xxx>
To: "H.O." <H.O.@xxxx.xxx>
Date: June 16, 2008
Subject:
I went to see christopher- upshot was he told me it was transference. I said i didnt know where the line was btwn us and he snapped at me and said he was very clear. i asked him about the websites and he denied all of it and said these women were damaged.he told me about relationships with 2 people at the clinic.
..he asked me 3 times if i was posting things about him and in a veiled way threatened me if so.
..he asked me 3 times if he had crossed the line with me and i said yes and he said it was transference. and that was it.
..i was v nervous, i cried 3 times, but i also stayed pretty calm and he was very angry at the start so i tried to diffuse things. I didnt go there to start a scene,i had wanted the truth.
..amongst him asking me about sex and telling me if I ever wanted to "have my wicked way" with him allI had to do was give him vodka..
And when a former colleague contacted him with their concerns regarding a more recent complaint, just mere months after he initiated the sexual relationship with his patient K.A., this was his response;
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>From: "christopher hansard" <christopher@xxxx.xxx>
>To: "H.O" <H.O@xxxx.xxx>
>Date: June 23, 2008
>Subject: xxxx
>
>Hello xxx
>
>I am sorry that you are been harrangued by a past client of mine. However, they can do nothing to you in anyway, at all. I would appreciate that you let me know who this is, so if anything takes place, I prepare things. ...
>
>all the best
>christopher
When another former colleague had also been informed of the breach of boundaries in May attempted to contact Christopher Hansard's therapist the response was that his patient was not breaking any laws. This particular therapist continues to endorse Christopher Hansard despite pleas from those who have either been abused themselves, or those who can offer credible testimony proving that Christopher Hansard is delusional and continues to break ethical and moral boundaries. It is perhaps time to make it a law.
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>From: "M.F." <M.F.@xxxx.xxx>
>To: "H.O" <H.O.@xxxx.xxx>
>Date: June 17, 2008
>Subject: Christopher
>
>I thinks its best to move on and let go it what I suggest by going to
>the police all they will say is file a report.
>Christopher is not breaking the law, its only when many people start
>to complain, then the police will take it seriously. He is not break
>the law.
>There is no organization that can actually expel him or even reprimand
>him or strike him off. As my cousin says the world is round.
>
>Its time to let go and let god!
>
>
>Regards
>
>M.F.
Perhaps more so ridiculous if not completely irresponsible was the reply from his current therapist. P.L.'s response was to ignore the colleagues concerns entirely and instead insist that it was they who had issues. P.L. also went on to suggest that they had to maintain boundaries which is rather laughable, as previous to their role as Christopher Hansard's therapist, they were under his care as his patient. A more recent email from his former fiancee would confirm this.
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..."P.L. is also the therapist I left Christopher in the care of when I left in February. When I tried to inform her that he was again sleeping with one of his patients immediately after I left, if not before, she averted the issue completely telling me I had 'daddy issues' and wishing me "peaceful healing in all dimensions."
Before P.L. became Christopher Hansard's 'therapist', she was a patient of his. In fact not that long before becoming his counselor. In the position of his therapist, she largely blamed his inadequacies on his students and seemed to have a particular dislike for S.W. She went as far as performing a 'treatment' that involved removing what she called "implants" from Christopher, that she said had been put there by his accusers and past students.
Her form of treatment was to hold colourful geometric shapes on laminated pieces of paper over Christopher Hansard's chakras, and speak to his 'higher self'. She also gained insight and answers using a small brass pendulum. .."
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Christopher Hansard
in twenty years of working as a practitioner I have
never had any improper sexual relationship of any type with my clients.
Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
dr. thomas
()
Date: November 22, 2008 01:49PM
Gita,
Evidently you possess much information concerning Hansard. Do you know if any of the therapists he saw gave a diagnosis?
I'm also wondering......he was quick to use the words transference. Do you think his pattern is intentional exploitation for his own emotional satisfaction or because he is actually untrained and simply slides into counter-transference? Based on your experience with him, were you able to discern that?
Given that this guy is so good at deceiving people and also so good at pissing them off and appears incapable of remorse..........did a diagnosis of psychopathy ever come up?
Evidently you possess much information concerning Hansard. Do you know if any of the therapists he saw gave a diagnosis?
I'm also wondering......he was quick to use the words transference. Do you think his pattern is intentional exploitation for his own emotional satisfaction or because he is actually untrained and simply slides into counter-transference? Based on your experience with him, were you able to discern that?
Given that this guy is so good at deceiving people and also so good at pissing them off and appears incapable of remorse..........did a diagnosis of psychopathy ever come up?
Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
pema
()
Date: November 22, 2008 07:19PM
RR Moderator -- I am almost certain Dr Thomas is a troll. What do you think?
Gita -- devastating evidence. This dossier needs to go to the media -- together with legally authenticated statements from as many of Hansard's victims as you can find who are willing to face the uncomfortable processes involved in whistle blowing. All of this is long overdue. I wish you strength, insight and good luck. Whistle blowers are always vilified. But in my humble opinion, it is the people who protect sexual predators who are irresponsible and lacking in compassion and ethical integrity.
Gita -- devastating evidence. This dossier needs to go to the media -- together with legally authenticated statements from as many of Hansard's victims as you can find who are willing to face the uncomfortable processes involved in whistle blowing. All of this is long overdue. I wish you strength, insight and good luck. Whistle blowers are always vilified. But in my humble opinion, it is the people who protect sexual predators who are irresponsible and lacking in compassion and ethical integrity.
Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
dr. thomas
()
Date: November 23, 2008 01:36AM
Quote
pema
RR Moderator -- I am almost certain Dr Thomas is a troll. What do you think?
.
My questions are perfectly legitimate. Why are you trying to frame the conversation and exclude me?
Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
Gita
()
Date: November 23, 2008 03:23AM
dr. thomas, As you can see by the above correspondences, Christopher Hansard's therapists are in collusion. *Please see above. His therapist P.L. is equally delusional, thus the reference to other dimensions and emotional response regarding his apprentices which suggested they somehow tainted their teacher as opposed to the other way around.
You are asking what my beliefs and opinions are, which are completely irrelevant. I am presenting facts, not opinion. I am sure you can appreciate any other discussion at this point is diversionary from the facts. You be the judge.
Respectfully,
Gita
You are asking what my beliefs and opinions are, which are completely irrelevant. I am presenting facts, not opinion. I am sure you can appreciate any other discussion at this point is diversionary from the facts. You be the judge.
Respectfully,
Gita
Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
pema
()
Date: November 23, 2008 04:28AM
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>
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>teacher, doctor, therapist, clergy, social worker, dentist? Are you
>finding hard to cope? Then please join us for our first Survivors
>Support Group at Witness 32 - 36 Loman Street, London SE1 0EH on 12th
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>12th December 2008
>
>
>
>Have you been abused by a person in a position of trust, such as a
>teacher, doctor, therapist, clergy, social worker, dentist? Are you
>finding hard to cope? Then please join us for our first Survivors
>Support Group at Witness 32 - 36 Loman Street, London SE1 0EH on 12th
>December 2008 between 2pm to 5pm. Run by Survivors for Survivors.
>
Re: Christopher Hansard
Posted by:
jeff bowe
()
Date: November 23, 2008 08:12PM
Gita, bravo indeed for these further insights into the dark world of Christopher Hansard.
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