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Dear Dorje I take your point, though given CH record could it not be that he took the information from Tibetanway or they both obtained there inspiration from the same source?

No, I can say with a clear heart that I am not a stakeholder, I hope you will accept that in good faith. I make that comment because JB has been asked about his connections with CH several times and has never replied. As for asking CF about the people he represents, have you not heard of client confidentiality?

If this is associated with CH it will fail when we achive our aim. CH had called himself a 'physician' he should be judged as such and should be subjected to the same malpractice laws as any other physician registered in the uk. That is my standpoint, in his books and first web site he called himself a 'master physician'... treat his unlaful actions in that light.


James

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I met Christopher Hansard a couple of times. I found he had a strange brooding intensity. He seemed to me, very arrogant with a massive ego. I was quite shocked at how confrontational and rude he was. Then when he had established that I was not a threat to hs authority and knowledge, he switched and was completely charming!

I walked away not really knowing what to think. I cant comment about the various allegations in this thread. I just don't know. I did hear some disturbing rumours.

The internet is a wonderful thing in many ways, because we have the freedom to say exactly what we like. Unfortunately it also means people can hide behind a screen name, and are then free to say things that would normally be classed as defamation. I have seen some good people mercilessly slagged off in forums on a whole range of subjects.

On the other hand, when people are scared of repercussions and cannot speak out in their normal situation the anonymity is perhaps a good thing.

Let it be safe to say that if he has done the things some say, then Karma will catch him, in this life or the next. Abuse of spiritual power is a terrible thing and I believe within the Tibetan spiritual traditions there are some wrathful beings who might well call someone in for an "interview without coffee" if they are guilty of such abuses.

The martial arts connection:

I was interested to read Lorenzettis comments that he was claiming to train in Kung Fu when he was younger.

I dont know if the readers of this forum are knowledgeable about the martial arts. Martial arts can broadly be divided in to "internal" and "external" External arts train you in distance, timing, leverage, strength, stamina etc. Very much like western boxing. Internal arts train you to open the energy channels of the body and store and transmit large amounts of energy (Chi in Chinese arts, Ki in Japanese, Prana in Indian / Tibetan etc) an internal martial artist can discharge massive amounts of energy in to the body of their oponent causing massive physical and energetic damage if they so wish.

The three best known Chinese internal arts are Tai Chi Chuan, Ba Gua Chang and Hsing I Chuan.

I know that a very respected internal arts teacher (I will not mention his name as I am certain that he would not wish to be in any way associated with CH) went to train with CH in an esoteric Tibetan martial art he was calling "Lung Ta" (whether this actually exists or not I dont know) During his training he experienced incredable psychic "hits" to his system and had experiences of reality breaking down. From all accounts he was rather freaked out and thus stopped training with CH and went back to his previous system.

This is interesting as it might be relatively easy to pretend to have all sorts of psychic and healing abilities. Any new age fair will show you that! However it would be much more difficult to fool an already accomplished martial artist that you are yourself are a high end practitioner. The man defiantely has some sort of ability.

Maybe (and this is pure guess work) he found a Chinese internal arts teacher when young in NZ (More likely to find a Chinese person fleeing communist China I would have thought historically) and through Chi Kung type practices developed the powers he has demonstated.

An account of this martial arts angle can be found in:

"Esoteric Warriors" by Alex Kozma 1998 ISBN: 1 874250 95 2. Chapter 7.

It does not mention CH by name but refers to "the man who brought the art to Britain" It then relates the story of Urgyen Gnam Chak etc... (p88)

To quote from p 83.

"When I met my Tibetan style teacher in 1987 he told me to attack him, and as I did so I found myself becoming very emotional. I began crying. I didnt expect this at all because I was a trained fighter and very confident. He had the ability to work on a seemingly non physical level, to cut through my attack in a way that exposed my core feelings. His art was Lung Ta , and the tribe that was noted for this art in Tibet were famed for the emotional damage they would do to an opponent. What they would leave in the end was an emotionally wrecked person"

I would be interested to hear if anyone else has experience of this CH martial arts angle and in fact whether Lung Ta exists as a system or is something totally fabricated.

All the best

S