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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: nccg_concern ()
Date: November 01, 2006 07:52AM

A private investigator might be helpful in finding out more about the cult, especially since you still know your daughter's physical location.

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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: PhillyExile ()
Date: November 01, 2006 11:53AM

Most of the people responding to your message have offered great advice as to how to deal with what you are going through.

However, I want to make clear as someone who was in a cult (two actually) and am dealing with someone who still is in a cult that you must also find time to deal with the flurry of emotions that you yourself are feeling.

In brief, what has happened is not your fault. Your child is not some kind of ignorant freak. She got caught up into a psychological situation where those who want to manipulate her have free reign.

Do your best to hold the lines of communication open. I know this can be hard especially when you feel perpetually snubbed, but it can pay off big in the end.

Also, don't be afraid to get some help for yourself. What you are dealing with is terribly tramautic and your loved ones may not understand all the inner turmoil that you are going thru.

Take care and remember that tommorow is another day...

Also remember that you may not be able to stop it. Your loved one is making her own choices, as bad as they may be. Nobody reputable is in the buisness of kidnapping people anymore. Just try and be strong and educate yourself as much as you can. More than all of that though, have hope.

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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: thelambchopkid ()
Date: November 04, 2006 08:34PM

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Heidi
What is this and how can I stop it?!?!?!?!

It's called mind control through fear of Hellfire by hanging around unbelievers that can poison the soul. Can you stop it? No. You can't. She's an adult. Leave her be. You gave it all you got. Let God handle it. It's in his hands now. If you are a believer of God and not a hypocrite, (not saying you are- only you know) God will handle it.

My family is needy and clingy. It's rediculous. I myself always got annoyed at my "clingy" family. My mom would phone me almost everyday and want me to attend family functions I hate attending because those functions are a waste of my time, full of mocking and arguing and puffed up opinions. I'm a believer of God, and since nobody there wants to hear about God, then why on Earth should I listen to their nonsense? If I didn't want to attend a function or holiday, my parents believed in, they would throw a childish hissy fit. If I went to a Hutterite colony and my mom threw a hissy fit and phoned me umteen million times, I too would tell her to get right with God, worry about her own life, let me be an adult and leave me alone- I'll see her on the other side. But, that's just my opinion.

The more you pressure her and get angry, the more she will pull away. If you want her to move back home, make sure you get rid of any beers or porn if you have any (not saying you do). She is becoming quite knowledgable of the Bible now, probably from an extreme perspective. As long as you have Biblically detestable things in your house, she WILL NOT move back. And if so, you might get her body back, but not her mind. Is she in a cult? Obviously, she is. A cult, from what I had observed, is a group that doesn't let you ask too many questions and those kind of groups are the most destructive. If she was in a good cult (because not all cults are evil), then she would let you ask her all kinds of questions and they (the group) would let you talk to her and her to you.

But, on the other hand, if you're the kind of man (not saying you are- only you know) that thumbs your nose at and flips the finger towards God, you lost the battle but good.

... Unless you hire a "cult exiter"... but those are illegal... oooops...

Best of luck.

tlck

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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: November 04, 2006 10:56PM

thelambchopkid:

Please review the rules you agreed to before posting here.

Refrain from preaching your religious beliefs.

Intervention is legal with adults on a voluntary basis. Interventions with minor children is legal on an involuntary basis, when supervised by a custodial parent.

There are "coping strategies" that may be helpful in a cult situation with a loved one.

See [www.culteducation.com]

There is an old saying, "God helps those who help themselves."

Leaving it up to God is not the only answer.

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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: thelambchopkid ()
Date: November 05, 2006 06:52PM

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rrmoderator
thelambchopkid:

Please review the rules you agreed to before posting here.

Refrain from preaching your religious beliefs.

Intervention is legal with adults on a voluntary basis. Interventions with minor children is legal on an involuntary basis, when supervised by a custodial parent.

There are "coping strategies" that may be helpful in a cult situation with a loved one.

See [www.culteducation.com]

There is an old saying, "God helps those who help themselves."

Leaving it up to God is not the only answer.

My apologies. carry on.

tlck

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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: LisaMoore ()
Date: November 05, 2006 08:18PM

First, I feel sad for your loss of your daughter to a cult.

When I was in a CULT I did not know it...we were told that all Churches were cults and education organizations becuase they effected your mind.

I now know better. A Cult has 4 main points.

1. The Leader is GOD.... no qustions.... DO AS THE LEADER SAYS ALWAYS.... or suffer. Their MESSAGE is the only TRUTH.

2. Decent within the group is NOT allowed... open conversations wih others in the group about the group are not allowed... you would be sent away... so you must go within self... and ues the human ego to sort things out. You can NOT see CLEARLY what is going on.

The reald DARK SIDES... are never questioned... just justified in secret places.... it creates control.

3. They PREY on making THEIR GROUP so special.. there is an eliet attitude....YOU are the CHOSEN ONES... or YOU ARE SO SPECIAL... this creates FEAR for those who leave..... Thre human ego loves this.

4. The group will not acknowledge the work of others... who might QUESTION their methods. They have ALL the answers. Outdsiders are put down. Cursed. They are told to walk away from their family... leave their dead muels behind. Many leave husbands, wives and babies behind.

Just like your daughter said to you... I know this... I have been there... telling family and friends to leave them alone....

Karma... is used to JUSIFY everything....

Free will and choices ... being over 18+ make it impossible to do anything about it.... but allow it to be.

It is only when you are AWAY from it... that you can clearly SEE IT.... when you are in these groups... the mind can not evaluate... it lives on the hights and lows of being with the leader....

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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: john231272 ()
Date: November 25, 2006 07:36AM

Any updates about your daughter?

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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: Hoi ()
Date: December 03, 2006 12:59AM

I will tell you what helped me a lot - The Holy Spirit. Once I felt literally Someone putting words in my mouth while I was talking to my girlfriend (that was before I knew that thing where she was going was a cult), I remember even telling her I feel like those were not my words. Those words told her to be careful, to think, at first I felt like I'm trying to get her away from that group, but I didn't want to do that because at the time I thought it was just a Bible study group like she told me. And one other time (after I started having suspicions about the cult) I was writing an email to her and in the middle of the email I had a dejavu, flashback, I don't know how to call that, I felt how she will be feeling when she will be reading my email, I felt how she was closed inside of herself and didn't want to let my words get inside of her head. Later she told me she felt exactly like I described in the bottom of the email.

Pray a lot, Holy Spirit will help you, He can put words in your mouth and He can tell you what to do.

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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: XLionheartX ()
Date: December 15, 2006 12:09AM

I am an ex-cult member, and unwearyingly contributed to the subjection of hundreds of God's children.
Your daughter is in serious trouble. Don't all the warning signs fill you with a sense of urgency?
Maybe she won't be killed,
Maybe she won't be a sexual toy to some depraved leader,
But definitely she will devote the best years of her life; meaninglessly serving the wishes to the leadership of that cult, sacrificing your relationship with her.
I suffer the consequences of my former sick devotion to a cult everyday of my life, I TRULY HOPE ONE DAY I WILL BE FREE.

Get three friends, and go get her.

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What kind of cult is this????? How can I save my daughter??
Posted by: forum ()
Date: December 19, 2006 11:31AM

Oh poor Heidi... Any good news now?

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