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Anyone know who this woman is ? Her real name? Back ground?

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She appears to be an example of what they'd call a sahajiya.

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Oerlikon
She appears to be an example of what they'd call a sahajiya.

Thanks for your reply. So what is a sahajiya?

Here's the story as "Vajra Nirvana Marga" tells it. The videos and "chronicles" documenting the sessions conducted in this ashram are quite interesting, from various perspectives.

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Oerlikon
She appears to be an example of what they'd call a sahajiya.

Thanks for your reply. So what is a sahajiya?

A phony, a cheater.

Namaste

Would like to give one piece of input.. While much and most of the
website is correct there is something that is a bit skewed. The website
was put together by a student. While it is true i started out in the Order
of Mans was there but a short while and am not into the white brotherhood
or any of that other thing. The journey was extremely eclectic in nature
many things explored like scientology led more to what direction not to
take versus something that was embraced as beneficial.

Most of the rest of the site is quite fine. But there is an addendum that
would add here when it comes to the Guru- Chela relationship when one
reads that site it isn't quite clear and so here is the direct pointing when
it comes to Guru and Chela.



The delusion of Guru is a God.
Namaste --

People have a mistaken notion that Sat Guru's are are looking
for people to bow down to them. This is the furthest thing from
the truth.

A Sat Guru points the direction to bowing down within - and
allowing the Grace of the Ever Present Eternal Source that is
called God to be Revealed as ego is laid down before the Reality.

This is why it is said What i AM you ARE. How can you find God
within IF you project that it is somehow locked up in some embodied
person.

God is Spirit. It is not this specific form you are seeing with your eyes.
Any Guru that says they are a God or The God and that you are needing
to cling to them to be saved is in delusion. That which you seek is Equally
within you as it IS within the Guru sitting before you. You take the Guru
to be a person within some elevated state - but again that is another projection
as this Consciousness may be entered as one is drawn within to the Heart of
their own Being. It is like the bible says the scales fall from the eyes and
what was hidden is seen. In the twinkling of an eye.

The Guru works to aide in pointing you towards within. To help you to
Surrender within not to some external persona that is seen with the
eyes, but to that Ever Present Truth of Being that has never been
owned by any. You are NOT the limited finite body ultimately -
Nor the conditioned mind that drives one in circles and suffering
without that Spark of Life and that eternal Breath one would have
no life. The journey is to discover and uncover That which has
always been eternally Present. Whole and Complete. A Sat Guru
is simply a catalyst for your journey H-0m-e.


OM Shanti

Namaste

A phony and cheater is an opinion and i don't think that
he was asking for that so here is what sahajyiya is:

The Sahajiya movement "was dedicated to . . . the transmutation of sexual pleasure
into transcendental bliss," particularly "with a woman other than one's wife" (Feuerstein, 1990).
"Sahaja literally means `easy or natural': the natural qualities of the senses should be used, not
denied" (Dimock, 1989: 35)



0- Now as far as that is concerned -- NO i am a celibate. Neither am i with ISKON
although was within that organization for about a year. Never took initiation there
and left due to the inconsistency of the ends justify the means. The ends NEVER
justify the means of lying nor any of the other abuses that took place there.

Unfortunately ISKON only gave partial teachings and totally neglected the Uddhava
Gita which takes one more towards the reality of Advaita...


OM Shanti

To whom it may concern:

the "Holy Order of Mans" was a group led by Earl Blighten.

See [www.culteducation.com]

A splinter group led by a former follower of Blighten, Peter Bowes, is largely based upon the Mans group. It is called "Order of Christ Sophia" and/or the "Centers for Light." The Bowes group has also been called a "cult."

See [www.culteducation.com]

International Society of Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) is a notorious "cult."

See [www.culteducation.com]

Namaste

As stated they were in the past but have no basis
for what is being given NOW. Just as you Rick Ross
have a past and being judged on it is only not fair
but bogus to hold those up as some sort of a now
look and see is doing the very same thing that you have
had to counter others on in regards to your own
journey and life.

None of these have been hidden and neither the
fact that had some short dealings with Scientology
the worst of them. This though does not mean
that what was encountered in any of the above
are being held up for anything other than what
they were simply points along a very long and
varied path.

As far as the order was concerned i was there in
the very early days and had left after a very
few months. It STILL has to be listed as part
of the journey though being that there was an
event there that jogged this one into a deeper
search.. Am more than happy to bring clarity
as to what is here and what is not..

What is not appropriate is when others come
and begin with making vast assumptions that
have little to do with fact and more to do with
some preset notions. All here have a right to
their opinion and one never says that any should
go to ANY Guru or Church or Organization or
methodology with blinders on.

Not all Guru's are the same -- Neither are all
Church's the same. Even in the Catholic
Church which is Really needing to go through
a cleansing and change one can't blindly say
that ALL priests are child molesters -- But
it is clear that for them to shield these abusers
is a clear violation of what Christs admonitions
are. It is time for Integrity - Honesty and
Transparency to come to the forefront of
All realms of society and mankind -- First
starting with the Spiritual paths and especially
within the religious dogmas that bring and
continue to hold in place suffering and
bondage...




OM Shanti

SwamiG:

You spent time with Scientology too?

Scientology was labeled "The Cult of Greed" by Time Magazine.

See [www.culteducation.com]

Frankly, not a very good history. It seems like you hopped from one "cult" to another.

Many "cult leaders" seem to have that history. The groups they lead become essentially an amalgam of the disparate groups they left. In this sense many of the new cult groups are composites.



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