I don’t know which is the correct section to present this topic, but i want to keep it as close as possible to TVP and TZM topics while drawing the attention of those who are familiar with the TVP and TZM here; and during my preview on this forum about the TZM I saw someone mentioning the old ideology of a 70 years ago called “Technocracy Inc.”, so I decided to search about it.
I'm going to tell you: I spent some time with them at their group, but tastes like a trope of "literal genius". So before explaining, I would like to leave some links of potential search:
From Technocracy:
[www.facebook.com]
[www.facebook.com]
[www.technocracy.org]
[webcache.googleusercontent.com]
To Research:
[thewebfairy.com]
[kevinbaker.info]

Now, I may have made the research but i will add skepticism:
They had their roots in mid-1918 during the winter called "Technical Alliance", and acclaimed as "Technocracy" in 1933. The movement was spearheaded by one man, Howard Scott (1890-1970), a practicing engineer who didn't actually have an engineering degree, reportedly because his father's death had cut his college education short. They want to replace money for an Energy Certificate based on energy units, although, the reviews from them toward the economic situation during the great depression was nothing more than a folklore toward monopoly.

They had many of the elements of the New-Wage money-making scheme: one of them is the promise of generous compensation for little or no work (like, what you need more in basic terms of living, since Technocracy criticizes heavily toil, and therefore the work loses a lot of his meaning, although the need of doctors, auto mechanics, construction of CPU and TV 's, researchers, innovators, producers of video games and movies, Agriculture staff and so on, means therefore toil).
Their symbol is a Ying yang rip-off, (like new-agers and wagers, they have turn the world upside down modifying sacred symbols giving them different meanings of what was before).

They had a military salute, and some of the grown-ups were in uniform. The model Technocrat wore a double-breasted gray suit, in gabardine serge, gray hat, gray shirt, gray socks, navy blue tie and matching handkerchief, and plain-toed cordovan shoes of reddish horsehide. (I believe the underwear was optional?) They had branches in San Diego, San Francisco, Detroit, Phoenix and numerous other cities. Scott by the time was called "The Chief". He also bought time on nearly a hundred radio stations, published several slick magazines and pamphlets, and even set up a "continental headquarters" in a Manhattan skyscraper. By that time, the uniforms were not only much more in evidence, but Technocracy had a motorcycle corps, and a fleet of gray minions.

It is true, they had their inception for a long time after they fell, but don't fool yourself because they are not over. They continue to reside on Facebook as a group and with a story. First i met "Technocracy Revolution" group, this was the only group that preached Technocracy at the time until more recently a dissent among members happened because one didn't want to accept the fact that Technocracy was over and the reasons of why, and that he took on assumption of Madison Ave he took from the blog (above link) about TVP that he made-"technique so that unless it was designed yesterday, it must be out of date.", although the nostalgia of reviving the movement was there, is mentioned in the Technocracy that: "It is well here to bear in mind the technological progression of the next 30 minutes invalidates all the social wisdom of previous history”, although (again) They said that the technology could destroy us (which means technological control) but claiming technological progression, and that science and creativity could work together, but that fascism (today world according to them) uses technology, at the same time stating that they are the only solution to all the problems of America, and now you have an army of minions preaching mantras. They also disqualify scientific ethics and morals, attracting bad fish from the fascist wing to the table to play god. They want all the “isms” obsolete because all of them failed to satisfy the crowd, except one with is "scientism". Honestly, if I had to say that all the "isms" were supposed to be obsolete except for one (or two things), I'd say "Democracy" and/or "Republic", this don’t have "isms".
It's also funny to notify the following:
``Technocracy takes human beings as they are, not as we wish they were. It must, and does, fit in with human nature.``
[venusprojectstolemybaby.blogspot.pt] (Now under cache access, google it if the link does not work.).
And now:
``To discount emotions, opinions, personalities and traditions and place a premium upon cause and effect factors in my social and industrial relationships...``
[www.facebook.com]
At the same time noticing “my”. And honestly, this is as far one can insult himself. If you are to accept humans as they are but disqualify the human factor, then one must be a pirate drinking rum with sugar. Sure reformist movements always have this weird ways, although Technocracy claims himself not being a reform movement beyond criticizing toil.

I'm going to finish my small review here, but you may be asking what does all this have to do with the TVP and TZM? Well I limit myself to speak only of Technocracy here, of course there have been connection in the past between the two (so says the blog that I showed at the last link on “From Technocracy”), and how one made born another, I think we can see how far we can catch the psychology behind both group, although both deserve a check. Despite both being painted with dark and light colors, I have no intentions of continuing to join clubs that promise a change after my participation at TVP TZM groups for 4 years + 1 year at Technocracy because they sounded to wishful to be truth. We've already seen what happened during the ancient revolutions and how they have ended, movements are another inefficient tool of showing information, and such similar ideas of Technocracy can be compared to Fourier with Phalanx after the ancient Greek military formation and Charles Fourier and Robert Owen 19th century utopian socialist that imagined future societies without money and their imaginary jackass societies of "La Reunion" in Texas and Robert Owen himself to found a utopian community without any money or private property at New Harmony Indiana in 1825. By 1829 it had already collapsed. Technocracy can be another dangerous trance. Hell, none of these communities lasted more than a few years. But, they say “the scientific rule”, tastes more like a militaristic idea for science. (They pretend to be listening to you by the way).

What would the Technocracy say as a social conduit? Oh that’s right, no ambitions, political or otherwise, instead they seem to have one, otherwise, why they are trying to exist? From all this groups I can only sense a double standard, beyond, their expectations of a fancy monetary collapse or the torch of World War 3 just like any other group expects. That’s not going to happen. Gonna leave this for you now.

P.S – Where my manners; Hi, or Hey, or Hello….

Hi everyone, I regret to have done this topic, but this is what happens when you believe in extraneous or satiric sources trying to manipulate any individual to believe what they want. You learn growing.

I gave the order (report) to delete this topic a long time ago in order to avoid giving wrong notions to the public of my antics on suspicious sources that wrongly convinced me of this movement since no serious search was done by me anyway, but unfortunately there is no delete button or edit. So please, next time someone public reads this topic, don't take me seriously.

Sincerely,
me

You know what, i'm not actually sorry. I blow it. I am not. Ops.