Re: Shunyamurti aka Robert Shubow of Sat Yoga Institute
Date: May 22, 2020 10:54PM
Thank you for sharing your valuable experiences and link to further discussion here in your posts.
“I suspect that a lot of the discussion will be uninteresting or irrelevant to anyone who was not a BK. We may pick up on bizarre subtleties that non-BKs would miss” - you answer right here why it is important that those inside might share outside, because of the subtleties that others might miss.
What I am propelled to write is to really address the aspect of the idea that other beings enter others, through another etc, this widespread belief throughout many spiritual circles is a dreadful form of the taking down people’s personal boundaries and elicits much fear within those subjected to stories of this, also the belief. It may bring a feeling of specialness if one is fanatical enough about the energy that may potentially enter one day, since you would have to be so ‘blessed’ for this to happen, to be chosen if you like.
The issue is that when a person is no longer in control of their own faculties or autonomy, for example, thinking for themselves (because another being acts through them, it is god, not I etc) then it is others present that take the wheel and control for their own purposes. The belief of the unseen force is then left with you, it causes issue. It is akin to having another program written over the original, so the original no longer acts.. because someone else acts. I like to look at it as viral, because it is an outsider that acts as if it has the right to change your own chosen inner preferences.
Despite beliefs, and I understand that it is different for everyone, however for me the reality is either a: outer control mechanisms of the people or person who wield the beliefs that are running, or b: projectional value due to strong held belief - people seeing what they see despite reality, not any chosen or particular unseen force, and c: complete and utter grade a acting skills in order to make a living (survive) and enjoy any immature payoffs of being perceived as special or the only one, etc. In my own view, I largely observe explanation a. as most active.
It happens in the daily relationships between very controlling people too. If you research amongst the narcissistic abuse communities you may well come across those both teaching about it and studious that some entity, alien, god, deity, demon, black goo substance, or dark force etc is behind the behaviour and symptoms experienced, which is absolutely not the case.
You can find the unseen force used as a manipulation tool (through fear) throughout many agendas, unseen forces aka aliens, ghosts and supposed paranormal activity, the ability for other humans to jump into another’s body, the channeling of entities or deceased persons, various energies, darn it even colours are given bad labelling.
It changes what you might rationally see, which is part of how they get into ones system.
When the imposter is booted out of the driving seat, the person can then act to recover themselves, but only because the program (or related) is no longer running.
As you may know yourself already it takes a lot to step away from everything.
“Whereas, without a doubt, he is intelligent and has studied much and, presumably, has a right to sell that knowledge and those skills if other people want to buy them,’
This is wonderful, and I do not doubt that there is a wonderful person here however, who sits and says that they have discovered something so wonderful, so helpful to humanity, to raise all to a specific field of being so tremendously beneficial as Sat Yoga puts out, and then says now pay me?
“I know, so you must pay me” it just does not come from a place of sharing, which has been one of the main ethos put out by Sat Yoga.
I get working one to one with people, though there is much varying context to add to this which would need to be taken into consideration. The costs are highly questionable.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/22/2020 11:07PM by facet.