Part two ...
Some further thoughts on your " glitter of an exotic tradition " satsang ...
You’ve got a good sniffer! I read enough of his Facebook page to come away with the following impression.
His Facebook page is an advertisement to join a cult of Personality.
Hilarious ! I actually briefy thought that this whole satsang is about you James. it fits you perfectly. it`s uncanny.
Seems like he’s a Mooji wanna be, which is pretty sad in so far as Mooji was just a poor imitation of Osho, who was a complete fraud. You might have noticed that Mooji has cancelled all his events this year and seems to have completely lost his shakti. Someone told me that it was a reaction to two suicides at his place in Portugal, although I have no way of verifying it. I watched a video of him giving a non-satsang and it was a real eye-opener. In mysterious ways Isvara does It’s duty.
So here`s where we come to the point where you`re setting up a smearing and denigrating campaign. all true to form so let`s see what`s next.
Anyway, back on topic, the only kind of ashram that is open to people who don’t want is a spiritual program is a fishhook for worldly people who want to mask their desire for association with people to further their own ends with a spiritual word i.e ashram. I’m not sure why he doesn’t just resurrect the Zorba the Buddha soundbite.
Yes, back on topic...after the initial belittlement. you just had to get that one in there.
This is a very ambitious seemingly humble person who is unknowingly suffering an undiagnosed case of enlightenment sickness.
Talk about Denial and Projection ! you really are sick James. Your adharmic narcissistic behaviour has no limits it seems. there is a special kind of karmic retribution reserved for those that cause disharmony in the sangha. you can`t fool all of the people all of the time and now Ishwara is starting to come for you. your mental faculties have been slipping for some time and your memory is far from what it should be. it`s why you so often fall into behaving into `automatic` mode as your samskaras run you like a puppet. you still have time to turn back !
You’re right, he doesn’t really know what true renunciation means.
Who ? Satchitananda or Andrew Boyle ? does it really matter in your scheme of things ?
He thinks it’s only a lifestyle and he wants in on the benefits. He doesn’t understand Swami P’s teaching on renunciation. A renunciate is someone who has renounced the doer and lives a normal life, of which “king” Janaka is the classic example from the Puranas. The Gita calls true renunciation, “jnana karma sannyas,” which means knowing that Isvara is the doer.
Does he really ? how would you know ? more smearing. you`re incorrigible James.
“Isvara is the doer” is a statement that describes the knowledge of a person who knows there is no one to claim discipleship or humility or Vedanta knowledge. Swami D says that the first stage of nididyasana removes psychic remnants from childhood and Swami P says the second stage removes teaching remnants.
So a proper sanyasi will confidently say to his or her self and apparent othersif asked, “I was never born. I never suffered. I never sought the truth. I never qualified to seek. I never had a guru. I am not enlightened or unenlightened”, etc.” All these and similar ideas belong to the I when it was apparently deluded. So, if you are still associating these ideas with the I now, you are the I that doesn’t know what it means to be the Self. Yes, you know the Self but….to repeat…you don’t know what it means to be the Self in terms of your existence in this world. This person has indirect knowledge, not direct knowledge. So that is all that people who are attracted to him will get if they bite the juicy bait on his fishhook. Which is OK because you have to first know that the self exists before you learn what it is and what it means to be it.
So there`s the killer punch. He doesn`t even know who he really is. really ? Here`s how he describes himself ... " Satchitananda is only Awareness. He is nobody-no-thing. As a relative concept (since there is nobody being born or dying) he was born on 26th of June 1967 in Corinth, Greece." You need to get your facts very straight James before you denigrate people. it`s all to build yourself up, isn`t it ?
Yes, this person seems to loves the truth as far as he understands it, which isn’t very far, but it certainly seems he doesn’t realize he is hypnotized by the glitter of an exotic tradition.
Yes, knock the man down to the ground and enjoy putting the boot in ! " seems" to love the truth ? you`re quite disgusting James. you don`t even know the man.
One of the most salient characteristics of enlightenment sickness is the need to build your brand.
True enough. have you seen Shiningworld ? it has your brand all over it. guru worship on steroids. what genuine teacher collects every word of praise and catalogues them on the satsang page ? only you James. notice a pattern emerging ?
So right out of the box you get a lineage, install yourself there, and convince others that they need to look up to you and listen to you. He will find a few takers, probably because there are many desperate seekers out there
James Swartz, master manipulator at work. I must admit you`re very good at it James and you know that`s true. yes, there are many desperate seekers out there and you are devious enough to take advantage of them. it`s a heartless thing to do and Ishwara will surely stop you one way or another..
If you are actually the Self, people will acknowledge you no matter what kind of clothing you wear and what kind of words come out of your mouth. Swamiji once brought a dirty, naked ascetic to the temple and installed him on Swamiji’s seat and let him sit there without speaking until everyone was in samadhi and paying attention to the ascetic. Then he told the ascetic that there was food in the kitchen and the ascetic got up and left. Meaning this spiritual thing is no big deal
So ... " if you are actually the self, people will acknowledge you no matter what kind of words come out of your mouth." You really think that, don`t you ? of course you do. it gives you license to pull the wool over people`s eyes. vedanta bullshit baffles brains every time. well that gives you license to say whatever you like and those "desperate inquirers" will just have to swallow whatever you say. it`s `my way or the highway` right. it`s the behaviour of a cult leader James.
His statement of Ramana shows his complete ignorance of Ramana’s life and teaching. Ramana wrote Sat Dharshanam and Upadesha Saram to point out that a person needs to do Self inquiry and that it certainly involves mental activity, which is to say, applying the teaching to the ignorance-inspired thoughts arising in the mind.. Ramana spent twenty-two years in caves doing Self inquiry, in the traditional Vedantic fashion, once he was clear he was the Self. Can you imagine Ramana begging for money and people to help him build an ashram in Greece. What a joke!
Remember when you first were clear that you are the self James ? What did you do ? Yes ...that`s right. you started an ashram ! what a coincidence. When it folded, the members thought you had inveigled them out of the ashram funds. correct ? yes.
And what `statement of Ramana` ? where is this statement and what is your reasoning that shows " his complete ignorance of Ramana`s life and teaching ? we just have to swallow that as if it`s a pronouncement from on high, don`t we. no critical thinking allowed here it seems. very fishy.
Apart from which, nobody is a bigger beggar of money than you are James. hit that donate button ! give till it hurts ...remember that funky little saying of your`s when I was doing the sales for you ? " fuck vedanta Stan. give me the money ". not nice at all. and the shiningworlders who left because they were sick of being manipulated to keep giving the big donations. i`ve still got the email records. If you can`t control your actions, you should at least control your mouth. that`s the teaching isn`t it....until you`re beyond the teachings of course. mind you, you are the self so it "doesn`t matter what kind of words come out of your mouth". yeah, right...
It seems this fellow is unconsciously looking for respect and using the appearance of studied humility to attract people.
No he isn`t. he`s working to start a European ashram to further the teachings of Advaita Vedanta in the traditional way. furthermore he has the approval of the highest authority to do so let alone official encouragement. that`s far more than you can say about yourself and the Shiningworld project. this is not to denigrate Shiningworld but Satchitananda is a new presence on the European vedanta scene. He drives a fifteen year old car and lives a very frugal monetary wise life with his wife and child . very different to your lifestyle by far. you should be supporting him and the ashram project rather than pulling them down. you`re near the end of your life James. please don`t go down this road. don`t cause this disharmony in the sangha.
If you are truly humble you don’t need to make a display of your devotion, publish certificates of authentication from gurus, etc. In a way, I hate to publish this satsang, but I am required to give this teaching from time to give people a warning when it is brought to my attention, because there are always gullible people out there who could use a bit of sound advice
You are not required to give this travesty of a teaching at all. by who`s authority do you give it ? you simply don`t have it...sorry to say..
This person, God bless him, will eventually come face to face with the zero-sum rule and start to understand that he’s actually spinning his wheels. He’s not obviously dangerous or manipulative—at least not yet—but he will probably wonder why people move on, which they will.
Will they really ? if there`s anyone dangerous or manipulative here, it`s you James. you are the manipulator par excellence ! many Shiningworlders actually fear you and crave your favour as some kind of `big daddy`. you`ve got them well trained and the last thing they will want to do is to look behind the curtain and see you operating the levers of control. The oldest standing endorsed vedanta teacher has recently been removed yet nobody notices, nobody knows. we all learn though. you get the guru you deserve until you`re fully qualified then all is made clear.
One fine day he will come face to face with Isvara and will learn the actual meaning of humility at that time. The Self is neither proud or humble.
I guess you missed the memo on that one James. Humility indeed ...very droll.
So is Swami P participating in this charade? Swami P, in the tradition of mahatmas like Swami D, who was his guru, blesses everyone who asks for it in harmony with the words of Krishna in the Bhagavad who says, “Even a sinner who is resolved to know the truth is to be respected.” So no, he is just doing his duty and leaving the results to Isvara, which is that this person is doing his level best to make hay out of it. Swami D had a similar situation happen with Swami Sudananda back in the day.
Really ? remember when you got me to approach the Chinmaya mission and Dayananda`s organisation ? we wanted some approval. swapping website links if nothing else. I tried twice but they didn`t want to know.
Considering the long list of fallen yogis in the last fifty years I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy ended up as the latest example of greed in the search for fame. He should study the Chinese proverb, “When doing evil avoid punishment. When doing good, avoid fame. I’m not sure whether to laugh or cry at the studied look of sincere transcendence on his face. May God bless him in the form of the results of his actions.
Keep it up James. remember your own words when your time comes. May god bless you in the form of the results of your actions.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/06/2023 09:27PM by TheSpare.