Shiningworld has now responded to the movement that Heather's books and this CULT Education Forum has formed. To date this topic has had over 11,000 views, and we are NOT going away James and Isabella Swartz.
Isabella has wrote a piece that is quite well wrote. The only problem Isabella is that your quasi-psycho babble has not salient retort to the multitude of points that have been raised in these pages. Both on the ordeal of Heather, and on how Shiningworld are simply not teaching Traditional Vedanta as claimed. But their own expression of modern vedanta.
In regard to the initial poster, Dan, who is SW staff most likely, he asks is their nothing that can be done for this slander?
No there is not for two reasons.
The first is that it would not be a complaint of slander, but of libel.
The second is that Shiningworld are being invited to try to do something about it, but for my part, every single thing I have wrote is check-able, and independently verifiable, and a court case for libel won't be took up by Shiningworld. Because if they do know peoples identity in this topic then they do know what has been said and alluded to, at least by me. Is true.
In regard to Isabella hearing about the idea being floated of picketing Trout Lake, one only had to read about it here. It was hardly secret. Though the most important point is being missed. James and Isabella, gone are the days where things are being ignored. People are coming together, and if you genuinely read through all the comment sin these topics SW, there is a heck of a lot of truth. And the time may be coming for the proof of how much of a cult Shiningworld is, is shown.
Shiningworld, the independent proof exists that you fulfill the criteria for a cult. These many victims accounts will be sought to be back up professionally, before a substantial offer of the evidence is made. Such articles like you have wrote today Isabella, mobilizes it even more.
"Hater's invariably belong to a group", oh yea? And who hates more than Shiningworld? The way you talk about other teachers and paths, both in public and private smacks of pure ego and elitism. You do NOT teach traditional vedanta. The very traditions of individual swami's that may give you a nod here and there are, believe me, relegating James Swartz to an academic. You are also well known for publicly hating and terrorism those in SW that fall foul of the two of you. You are aptly describing the terror of you and James Swartz?
Speaking of Swami's. James Swartz showed his ego once more, when he name dropped a famous Swami who he said had sent him regards. So what? Teachers sent teachers regard all the time, yet James name dropped this teacher to try to validate his own teaching, in response to someone criticizing him. The fact that you published such a name drop speaks volumes. You feel that you are lacking, by needing to publicly name drop in that context. There doesn't seem to be resting as purtanvam there. The fruit of moksha.
Do you not know that many are afraid to get close to you both? Know how I know? Because many have told me themselves.
"There is no way of stopping a hater...only ignoring..." Isabella, let's have a reality check, you have not ignored us, as you have made a response. Which we have been wanting. Further responses would be appreciated, and this is because...
Once we see that there is nothing of interest in your silken hollow pseudo psychological response, one major thing stands out.
There is no addressing of Heather's sexual attacks. Nor is there any addressing of the myriad of inaccurate teachings purporting to be traditional vedanta. Point of fact Isabella, some of your teachings have been looked at by Swami within traditional vedanta, and they are not accurate. I know because I commissioned it. You are teaching people inaccurately. And that is most terrible for those unsuspecting people.
We know who you are speaking about in regard to someone's father. And yet again you take another opportunity to publicly character assassinate a former teacher.
Let me enlighten the internet. A teacher in Shiningworld was made an example of because they were asking for donations to cover medical expenses. They were publicly humiliated on Shiningworld in articles and newsletter.
Ok. So James Swartz allowed Isabella to get her way. He takes the side of his wife over his own students. This in itself is ignoring the importance of the parampara, lineage, over his own vishaya ananda, object happiness. This is a strong indication that his own discrimination is clouded, and he has feel from grace.
The most hypocritical thing in this, and here I am publicly outing James Swartz for the very first time in this context, is that he himself has been soliciting cash for that Spanish property. This has been happening in public, for a fact.
So they throw out a teacher for asking for cash for medical expenses, yet you, James Swartz are able to solicit cash for your property in Spain!
How dare you treat people like this! Any members of Shiningworld, read this carefully. I tell you the truth. Some i can't reveal. The rest is most likely going to be placed into a format that you can see what they are doing to you.
Isabella, you have the audacity to portray both of you as victims. We, the people who have been abused by you, we are the victims, and we are being heard. So, we shall shout louder still.
You have totally deflected our complaints by attempting to portray both of you as victims. We are outing both of you. And we are making an impact, once that will continue. Do you know why? Because what is being said is the truth. And we dance to our tune. You cannot force us into anything. It is us who have been controlling you. And we shall continue to entice you to share your propaganda, for it is then that we will take it apart.
And if you stop responding? We shall carry on with the historical abuse anyhow. This is not stopping, it is growing. You have fed it much more today. thank-you, for we have been wanting this, and more. Please continue.
Isabella, there is no point trying to protray yourself as being dispassionate. Anyone who has known you will know you will be going nuts in private. The crazy way you get on is very well known.
You also title it 'haters'., We are VICTIMS. Get that understood. So how dare you invalidate the trauma we have received. You, Isabella have to authority to negate what we are saying, unless you and James Swartz are there. And that is s problem isnt it? For if either of your were 'there' something had to of occured!
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