The Marshall Govindan Satchidananda Babaji Fraud
Posted by: Steve Mandelker ()
Date: February 13, 2009 07:20AM

The Marshall Govindan Satchidananda Babaji Fraud

"Babaji's Kriya Yoga" (see www.babaji.ca) is now taught by
Marshall Govindan and his assistants around the world. It is
an expensive three-part series of classes on kriya yoga
supposedly taught originally by Babaji himself to Yogi
Ramaiah, who taught them to Govindan. Whatever the merits of
his teachings, Govindan should stop claiming that he is
teaching what "Babaji" supposedly taught to
Govindan's recently deceased Indian teacher, Yogi
Ramaiah. Govindan has made many substantive changes in the
sadhana he received from Ramaiah. If Govindan is right that
"Babaji" is the ultimate source of the
"teachings" specifically concerning kriya yoga in
Ramaiah's classes, then Ramaiah's students must be
right when they say that Govindan is not teaching
BABAJI'S kriya yoga, but rather something else. Of
course, it's ridiculous to believe in "Babaji"
in the first place.

Govindan appeals to people's interest in astounding
miracles in order to sell his expensive set of sadhana
classes. He implies that you, too, can learn to do such
miracles if only you'll sign up for his sadhana classes.
It's rather a base sort of appeal, aside from being a
fraudulent one (as hardly any such miracles have ever been
demonstated by those willing to subject themselves to
conditions imposed by academic researchers investigating
paranormal phenomena).

Govindan uses false stories of miracles to promote his
over-priced, needlessly expensive classes on spiritual
topics. They lead people to walk around in a dreamy state
filled with illusions and fantasies about incredible
"events" that never actually occurred.

Although he presents himself as a spiritual teacher whose mission is
to help others progress on the spiritual path of kriya yoga,
he is, first and foremost, a salesman and fundraiser. I have
found, over a seven-year relationship with Govindan during
which time I considered him to be my teacher, that virtually
everything he says and does is motivated by the goal of
getting as many people as possible to sign up for his
classes, buy his books, and donate funds to his
organization. He is interested in students only so long as
they are likely to sign up for further classes. Once
you've taken all his classes, it's unlikely
you'll be able to keep in touch with him or ask him
questions.

Govindan does his best to convince you that when you take
his classes, you're not simply receiving the information
given in class, but you're also getting a teacher who
will answer your questions and assist you on the spiritual
path. In fact, Govindan resents having to answer questions,
answers grudgingly, and complains bitterly if you you ask
him as few as four or five questions a year that you are
asking "hundreds and hundreds of questions." He is
not interested in whether people who take his classes
benefit from them, practice the techniques, or advance
spiritually. His only real concern is the quantity of people
signing up for classes and the size of the donations that
are made by those who have taken the classes.

I feel cheated by Govindan. He told me that the techniques
are secret and cannot be published because it is important
to learn them personally from a teacher and to work on them
in association with a teacher. In reliance on this
statement, and with the expectation that taking
Govindan's series of expensive classes would enable me
to obtain guidance from him on my spiritual practice, I
travelled to India and Japan in order to take his classes,
only to discover--after I finished the series and Govindan
had no more classes to sign me up for--that Govindan had no
intention of assisting me in any way. Apparently, once you
finish his series of classes and he can't get anything
more out of you, he's done with you and doesn't want
to hear from you again. This explains what the secrecy is
really all about--if the techniques were published, Govindan
couldn't get you to sign up for his classes and hence
wouldn't be able to make any money from you. The secrecy
has
nothing to do with getting students to obtain guidance
from the teacher, because such guidance (if it takes
Govindan more than a few minutes per year) is not available.

Govindan has a wild imagination in thinking up excuses for
not providing guidance. Even when you're practicing
meditation diligently, he'll tell you you're not
practicing and he doesn't want to work with people who
aren't practicing. Or, when you don't understand
something he wrote and seek clarification (because after
all, Govindan is a rather poor writer), he'll tell you
you're being "too intellectual," and leave it
at that.

Govindan's behavior reminds me of that of the behavior
of Cuban government officials in 1939. Manuel Benitez, the
director of immigration in Cuba in 1939, made money by
selling landing permits which would allow Jewish refugees
from Nazi Germany to land in Cuba. He sold these permits to
any Jew who would pay $150. The Cuban government nullified
the permits after they had been sold. The Jews sailed to
Cuba, but were then forced to return to Europe because the
permits were not honored. Likewise, Govindan sells admission
tickets to a series of classes and an organization called
"Babaji's Kriya Yoga" and claims that he is
available to assist you. Only after you've paid for all
his classes do you learn that he is not available to assist
you.

The organization Govindan runs called "Babaji's
Kriya Yoga" does not exist in anything like the form
Govindan claims it exists. Govindan lists a large number of
"contact people" around the world on his website
at www.babaji.ca/NewSite/contacts.htm . The purpose of the
list is to make "Babaji's Kriya Yoga" appear
to be a much larger organization than it actually is, which
would encourage more people to become interested in taking
Govindan's classes. Several months ago, I emailed all
the people on the list and found that half the "contact
people" outside the U.S. did not even reply, and three
quarters of the "contact people" in the U.S. did
not even reply! Much of this false information (about
non-existent phantom "contact people") has been
posted online for several years, even though Govindan was
well aware during all that time that it was false. I told
one of Govindan's assistant teachers about this and he
told me Govindan was planning to correct the
misinformation. When I checked the contact list recently,
I found that although a small amount of the misinformation
had been corrected, the list still contains a vast amount of
misinformation.

I don't mean to imply that Govindan has never in the
past been helpful, or that he is incapable of being helpful.
There have been a few occasions on which he was helpful.
However, I hardly think that this justifies his refusal to
give assistance after the training has been completed. So
far as I am able to determine, the small amount of
assistance he gives is simply to encourage people to finish
his series of classes. After the series is finished by a
student, he sees no reason to continue to provide assistance
because he has no more classes in which to enroll such a
student, and hence no way to make more money from such a
student. Thus, those who have completed his series of
classes are left with a set of complex exercises, but with
no one to guide them or advise them on their practice.

A large number of former students of Govindan have lost
respect for him because they have found him to be dishonest
and untrustworthy. He does not keep his agreements with his
assistant teachers (known as "acharyas"), and
consequently he has far more FORMER assistant teachers than
active ones.

Govindan simply can't be trusted. He preys on
people's need for spiritual guidance in order to make
money and keep his organization afloat, but he doesn't
provide the guidance he promises.

An example of Govindan's approach to finances is the
policy he once stated to me, that Westerners may not take
his classes in India, but must take them in Western
countries or in Japan. Obviously, if he was interested
primarily in benefitting students, he wouldn't care
where they took the classes. His reason for banning
Westerners from taking his classes in India is simply that
he doesn't make much (if any) money from his Indian
classes, which are either free or very inexpensive, whereas
he earns something more substantial from the classes he
teaches in the West or in Japan.
I consider his discriminatory policy based on nationality
to be highly unethical. In the U.S. or Europe, people are
never kept out of meditation classes on the ground that they
are Indian nationals and should take classes only in India.

Govindan's classes on kriya yoga are taught in a far
less professional manner than were those of his recently
deceased teacher, "Yogi" Ramaiah. Ramaiah
personally checked at length each student in his classes to
make sure that they were practicing the techniques
correctly. Govindan does that task so quickly (sometimes in
four or five seconds) that it is impossible for him to have
actually determined whether the student is doing the
exercise correctly. He doesn't even wait to observe one
full breath from a student before moving on to the next
student learning a breathing exercise. He also turns over
the task of checking the students to incompetent
assistants--people who do not themselves practice the
exercises or know how to do them correctly. For example, he
once used an elderly Indian man to check the students'
breathing practices. When I asked this assistant about the
instruction to close the glottus more on the exhalation than
on the inhalation, this
man became embarrassed and admitted that he didn't
know anything about how to close the glottus or whether it
should be closed in a different manner on the exhalation
than on the inhalation.

Some of Govindan's beliefs are quite ridiculous. For
example, he believes that in five or ten minutes, he can
train people to prescribe ayurvedic diets for each other.
There are three detailed versions of these ayurvedic diets,
all of which are quite different from the others. Govindan
thinks that in a few minutes, he can train people to tell
other people which of these three diets is best for them.
Govindan also believes that specific yoga postures (called
"asanas") can cure serious diseases that even the
best doctors in the world cannot cure. He has also taught
that if Sri Aurobindo had practiced asanas, he would have
become immortal.

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Re: The Marshall Govindan Satchidananda Babaji Fraud
Posted by: Almashanti ()
Date: January 27, 2011 09:07AM

Because of so many unfair accusations made by Steven Maldekar, I have decided to share my knowledge and the experiences I have had over the years with my dear beloved teachers and friends –Marshall Govindan and Durga Ahlund.
First of all, I have known Marshall Govindan (aka Satchidananda) since 1992 and his wife Durga since 1996. I never had the impression that Marshall Govindan has ever, presented himself as a Guru. When asked, I have heard him say on numerous occasions that his role is just to be Babaji’s postman, delivering his Teachings. Govindan constantly emphasizes that the true “Guru” is not a person, but the Teachings. The Guru, he says, is a principle of nature, by which truth, beauty, love, goodness is revealed. He also says that the Guru may manifest anytime through any experience that touches the soul with these qualities. When these soulful experiences are expressed consistently through a particular individual, we need to be careful not confuse that individual person with the “Guru.” The person is just an envelope, a vehicle. It is the teachings that are important.
I believe that Steve, may have confused a need for a personal relationship with Marshall Govindan with a need to know the Guru. If so, he needs to let go of his disappointment, and resentment, and realize that it is by doing the Kriya Yoga sadhana, and by studying the teachings of the BKY and the Siddhas and by changing his own thinking processes, that he may find what he is looking for.
One of the things I like about Govindan’s presentation of Kriya Yoga is that he gives the training and the techniques, as well as continued support over the years, without conditions, other than a commitment by the students to do the practices sincerely. Most Indian gurus require their students to slave away for years in their service, and then give very little in terms of teachings and techniques. Nor does Govindan ask his students to commit themselves solely to Kriya Yoga. Babaji’s Kriya Yoga, he says, is a big vehicle, that can accommodate and complement many teachings and methods.
Regarding the issue of money, if you visit the website where Marshall Govindan’s seminars and publications are described, on the page “Events and Schedule/First level initiation” it states:
“1. Initiation into Kriya Yoga is taught in an intensive weekend seminar. The suggested contributions will, however, cover the average cost involved…The suggested contribution is $300. At the Quebec Ashram this includes the cost of lodging and meals…”
And “6. Suggested contribution: initiations and other activities are given on a suggested contribution basis only. We never allow money to become a condition or obstacle to learning Babaji's Kriya Yoga. Where interested persons do not have money, it is given free.”
Where is the evidence that this policy regarding donations has not in fact been respected? If Steve considers where he took the initiation, it was probably only $250 for first or second level weekend training. That is a very modest amount for a full weekend course packed with material. The review sessions he had with other acharyas were free of financial obligation. So was the training he had in India. He has not considered the very real cost involved in Govindan’s and other acharyas’ travel expenses, to India, Japan and Hawaii, where he received his training, and the cost of renting a center, publicity, among other things. I have personally seen many people over the years who only offered a donation, an amount that they could easily afford. I have also seen that many people have been given the training for free. Acharyas are always advised to give the training freely to all sincere aspirants. No one is ever turned away because they could not pay the suggested donation. All students receive a clear and concise training and are offered on going support over many years. No question or doubt goes unanswered, unless the questioner is not sincere and is just lodging complaints and not practicing.
Some people have taken all three initiations without paying anything, but do offer some seva, like some gardening at the ashram or some kitchen duty or some simple office tasks at the Ashram in Quebec. One man I know paid with a granite birdbath he had made. Shouldn’t there always be some exchange of energy? Also, the fees for all the trainings and that includes the Hatha Yoga Teacher Training, vary according to a particular country. In India, the fee was about $100 for a 200-hour year long training. Sri Lankan students were given scholarships and even had their travel reimbursed, and they were given free lodging and meals. The amount of the suggested contribution is very low in poor countries, and reduced in East European Countries and in South America. The seminars are sometimes given without a suggested donation…these are sponsored by his organization, Babaji’s Kriya Yoga Order of Acharya. Furthermore, students are encouraged to repeat the first level seminars as often as they like, for free.
Govindan returns annually to most of the places where he has taught, to encourage and support his students. His site lists about 20 teachers who also teach and support students in over a dozen countries. He and Durga also offer a lot of support to students through a journal given for free after you take the 1st seminar, at least for a year or so…The Quebec Ashram offers regularly scheduled silent retreats and regional gatherings, and a 200-Hour Hatha Yoga Teacher Training, given at very reasonable rates. Kriya Yoga Publications has come out with amazing publications on Yoga, including the writings of the Siddhas.
All BKY publications were given to the Indian Ashram for distribution and reprinting, free of any fees or royalty. All the income from seminars and books in India stays in India to support the ashram and students there. The same support exists for the beautiful new ashram in Sri Lanka, which was rebuilt after the tsunami with the funds Satchidananda raised in a special fundraising effort.
Babaji’s Kriya Yoga is affordable and available to anyone who seeks it out. Many of my friends have visited the BKY ashrams in Bangalore, India and Sri Lanka, and attest to regular classes that are offered there several times per week to the public. These classes are well attended, and are offered free of charge. They are advertised on the same website. These ashrams are doing wonderful work in publishing the books written by the scholars associated with the Yoga Siddha Research Project, which is sponsored by Babaji’s Kriya Yoga Order of Acharyas, founded and lead by Marshall Govindan.
The complaint that Govindan and his wife, Durga do not respond to emails, is not only false, but also silly and illogical. How could Steve possibly know whether Marshall Govindan replies to anyone but himself? I correspond regularly with Durga and Govindan. They both receive an enormous amount of emails; consequently, at times, Govindan may not send me an immediate reply; however, both Govindan and Durga always respond within a day or two. If Steve has a complaint that his emails were not answered, all he needs to do is to take it up as an issue with Govindan. I could actually imagine that Govindan might not give someone the answer he was looking for. He might even stop responding to a student who won’t listen to his advice or suggestion. I have witnessed that Govindan has little patience for laziness or incessant questioning.
If Steve’s evident anger and resentment is due to disappointment in the response that Marshall Govindan and Durga Ahlund and other acharyas [...] They are teachers, not therapists, and not friends. As teachers, they need to draw a line in their relationship with students if they are to respect the ethical code of Yoga teachers, and to continue to empower students to make their own choices. His friends or his therapist might condone such immoral activities. But they have told him that when he does so, he opens himself to a big current of negative energy. [...]
As a general rule, acharyas do not attempt to answer questions which are unrelated to the practice of Kriya Yoga. They do not attempt to tell students what to do in their personal affairs. But if someone has doubts about the practices, and they express these doubts in the form of polite questions, they will receive helpful, detailed replies as to the practice of the techniques and how they will help one to resolve their issues.
As for the alleged lack of response from persons listed on his website, I know many of them, and to my knowledge, there is no one listed there who will not respond, and does not continue to sincerely practice Babaji’s Kriya Yoga. If someone did not get a response, it may be that your insulting questions did not merit a response. The website is updated regularly, and it impressively reveals the engagement of a large number of sincere volunteers.
But why criticize Marshall Govindan because students evolve and move on? As with any tool, technique or skill which is learned, most persons move onto other things. Relatively few persons continue to practice it or use the tool every day. Even teachers who have practiced it for many years move onto other disciplines, become independent, or have to stop teaching for reasons of health, family, finances, or careers. To label Marshall Govindan as a “fraud” is ridiculous. Steven received every thing anyone could expect to receive and much more: careful training in the wonderful techniques of Babaji’s Kriya Yoga, in 3 great seminars, detailed replies to your numerous questions, most of which were unrelated to the techniques taught in the seminars, free review seminars, and much personal encouragement from several Kriya Yoga acharyas in California and Hawaii, as well as from Durga and Satchidananda.
If someone purchased a set of woodworking tools or attended a series of classes in oil painting, or any other seminar where one is taught techniques which require practice and skill in order to realize their potential benefits, but then refused to practice them, one cannot blame the tools or techniques as being ineffective, as you have done, much less the teacher!.
It would be very unlikely that one would injure oneself practicing the 18 postures taught in his or Durga’s classes, or as presented in their books and DVD. This is not a competitive Yoga. The goal is deepest relaxation and increased vitality and physical wellness. Every pose is taught in stages, with relaxation after each posture. Furthermore, in my experience, any posture can cause injury to someone who is out of shape or who has had an earlier injury if he pushes too hard, and is not in tune with his body.
The Grace Course, the correspondence course is wonderful. I have taken both years and many of my friends also have taken it and have been inspired by it. I found that the course magically addressed precisely what I was going through in that particular day or month. It is a course in self study and might get under someone’s skin if he was not willing to work on himself. To attack the course or the one who developed it, is an immature response.
Steve complained that Marshall Govindan did not give adequate individual attention to students during an initiation seminar. He failed to mention that this was an exceptional situation, a free seminar in Bangalore, where more than 100 persons attended, and that the typical class seminar size is on the average only 15 persons. Nor did he mention that when he received his initial trainings the classes were even smaller.
I have never heard anyone express anything but the highest praise for Durga. She is an excellent teacher of Yoga. I love her books – her teachings and writings.. She also walks her talk, and is an example and inspiration for all who know her. Steve may have met her, but I can’t imagine that he knows her at all.
I have never seen any evidence that Marshall Govindan promotes “miracles” or raises false expectations among his students. This is just another false statement. He has a remarkable ability to clearly communicate the essence of Self realization, without jargon. He uplifts and inspires us. But he always says our process and growth is up to us. It is always a matter of doing the work.
Govindan’s biography “How I became a disciple” clearly indicates why he left the organization of his teacher, the late Yogi Ramaiah. There is no evidence whatsoever that he has modified the techniques that he was taught. I have seen that these have been published on the internet by a student of Yogi Ramaiah. His presentation of these is consistent with what appears there. If anything, he has presented them much more clearly. He has also certainly made them very accessible to anyone who wishes to learn them. He removed them from the narrow, Indian cultural context which Yogi Ramaiah kept them from most aspirants, and made them accessible to all sincere seekers.
Steven has complained that Yogi Ramaiah treated him unfairly. The biography of Yogi Ramaiah which he has written in an article on his website, may help Steven to understand why Yogi Ramaiah acted towards him as he did. Yogi Ramaiah’s preferred relationship with students was to work on “crushing their egos” by creating situations wherein the student would feel uncomfortable, and either have to quit the relationship, or “let go” of their own egoistic reactions. That is the method of the “crazy-wise adepts” described in Georg Feuerstein’s book, "Holy Madness.” Other controversial teachers including Georg’s teacher the late Bubba Free John (a.k.a. “Adi Da), and Gurdjieff, used this method. Very few students, and especially very few Westerners, are prepared to work with a teacher who does that. It is too difficult.
Furthermore, everything that Marshall Govindan has evidentially done for the past 40 years related to the practice and teaching of Babaji’s Kriya Yoga demonstrates not only his belief in it, his love and devotion to his Guru Babaji, but the guidance, grace and support which Babaji has showered upon him. Steven’s claim that Marshall Govindan does not even believe in Babaji is simply absurd, and without any basis.
I have admired Marshall Govindan’s ability to answer questions in a very helpful and patient manner. However, he also emphasizes the fact that the truth cannot be realized merely by intellectual gymnastics, and that if one does practice quieting or silencing the mind, then there is no use in simply asking questions endlessly, because the teachers and the answers always reside within each one of us. All we need to do is ask and listen. I suspect that Steve avoided doing the practices, and that he allowed his intellect to get carried away with itself. I have often heard Govindan say to others that many questions can only be answered by going deep within.
Steve has some axe to grind against Marshall Govindan and Durga, but it is not because of what he accuses them of in his posts. His allegations are completely at odds to what I know as a fact about both of these modest people, who have the deepest love and respect for the heritage of Yoga. All they seem to want to do is to empower others with an understanding of the force and transformational potential of Yoga.
I suggest that Steve go back to the BKY website www.babajiskriyayoga.net and the new website www.tirumandiram.net and read and study the amazing new publications of the writings of the Tamil Siddhas, which this couple have made available. On January 17, 2010, in Chennai India, at the gala release of their latest publication, the monumental work, the “Tirumandiram,” in front of an audience of more than 1,000 persons, they were praised by a dozen dignitaries, leading spiritual luminaries, scholars and heads of the government. Professor Georg Feuerstein also recently reviewed this work and wrote:
“Yoga-loving English speakers and the academic community owe an enormous gratitude to Marshall Govindan (Satchitananda) for initiating and sustaining this mammoth project, to his wife Durga Ahlund Govindan for her unstinting editorial and other support, and to Prof. T. N. Ganapathy and his team of translators and editors for successfully completing a truly monumental undertaking. One can only hope that the release of this complete rendering of the Tiru-Mandiram will end the relative neglect of the Tamil spiritual literature at the hands of Western scholars. The immense value of a careful study of this literature is overwhelmingly clear from the present work.” By the way, their publication of this new edition of the greatest of the Siddhas works, Tirumandiram is a legacy in itself.

Finally, I would like to add that Babaji’s Kriya Yoga techniques have had a great impact in my life, thanks to Govindan’s teachings and guidance. My life is now a continuing event of miracles, as I have learned to detach and surrender to the flow of Babaji’s Divine Grace and Light.

One of Babaji’s gifts that I have come to understand is the one of “free will.” That every moment gives me the opportunity to choose either love or fear.

When I choose fear, my ego takes over and it leads me to take the “Victim role,” which includes blame, resentment, judgment and suffering. When I am in this unconscious state, I refuse to take responsibility for my actions because it is much easier to blame someone else for my misery. This creates a hell within our life.

When I choose Love: I remember that I am God’s (Spirit’s) Divine creation. When I become conscious or awakened to this state, I take the role of “Spiritual Warrior,” which includes taking responsibility for my actions, and co-creating my life aligned with His Divine Light.

Babaji said that through the practice of these techniques we are able to experience Heaven right here on earth, because through our spiritual transformation we become aware of the choices we have and we begin to let go of our false self (ego/Fear) and start to integrate our True Self (God/Love).

I know that Babaji’s Kriya Yoga techniques are the daily tools I plan to use till the day I die to support my spiritual transformation. My Sadhana continues to be a light in my path. It reminds me to be aware that my life is the result of my choices and attitude that I take in every step and at every moment. Also my daily practice allows me to remember that I am a spiritual being having a human experience.

The Siddhas said that our happiness is proportional to one’s discipline. When I become disciplined in my practice, I remember that I am a piece of God’s creation. This process creates a feeling in my heart of peace, joy, love and connectedness, and I am able to detach from life’s drama and suffering and continue to trust and surrender to His Divine flow of Grace.

I have come to realize that if I want my day to be full of joy, love and miracles, I need to spend some time each morning with God, and then I remember to remember.

I believe that our planet is like a big University, and we are constantly being put to test to either act or react to each other’s interactions; inasmuch as we are constantly exchanging the roles of teachers and students with one another. The only way to pass the test is when we act from a feeling of love, compassion, and understanding.

I have also come to realize that nobody can make me happy or unhappy, it is all based on my beliefs, perception and the choices I make. I have become aware that there is no way to happiness, happiness is the way.

I remember to remember that at every moment of my life I can either be the Host to God or the Hostage to the ego, it is all up to the choices I make.

Namaste



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Re: The Marshall Govindan Satchidananda Babaji Fraud
Posted by: Durgas ()
Date: November 02, 2015 06:50AM

I did all the levels of initiations with Marshall Tarrant, who named himself Marshall GOvindan Satchidananda.

I confirm that he promotes his organization. He asked to become acharyas to this I refused, I noticed he uses his shakti to fool and keep under control as much people as he can. He loves showing how many people he initiates. He forgets to inform how many he misguiding and insults and uses them to his personel purposes.

We notice that he asks sexual questions to women, he travels in invisible plan to control the mind. He creates light like lighting and all the acharyas think that it is Babaji presences. He uses his shakti to bring vision of Babaji infront of students.

He has sexual relationship with lot of students, frienship turn into sexual relationship. Ahlund does not have any level to teach, she notes text from various books and read as her own.

Marshall Tarrant and Ahlund are not safe poeple to learn

Mantras :
Gayatri :
Aum Bhur Bhuva septa Putraya om tat svaha verangai vergo devishi dheyo Jnanat presidayat aum

Mataji : Aum Tirumati stri tulasi Nagalakshmi devi potree
Krishna : Aum klim krishnoya Govindoya Gopijena vallabhaya svaha
Agastya : Aum klim vang Paramguru agastyar tamil anal potri
Patanjali : Aum stri sing rajayogi patanajali rameshwaran potri

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Re: The Marshall Govindan Satchidananda Babaji Fraud
Posted by: Durgas ()
Date: December 03, 2015 06:18AM

.Marshall & Ahlund are liars... both are looking for sex and money

He uses his shakti to misguide me, from the first to last discussion I had with him he asked me only sexual questions.... He uses his shakti on me to make tired with Mr dislikes sport , I dance & I practice sport. He makes me feel that sport make the body tired.. and dancing is sexual... Marshall your dirty mind for your. .
He is brother for student , then he has sexual relationship

He asked to become acharya, : I refuse,
When kind a teacher is someone who is having sexual relationship with studensts, friendship turn into sexual relations.
One day he says I marry you... remember this ; Another day I make you enjoy your sex

Marshall follows me when I am with my brother, he though he is my boyfriend, when my friend was kissing he came to. He brings Ahlund to watch sexual relationship.


One night I was sleeping , Marshall asked to put finger in my sex....
Another he came and to put a ball of light in my sex and he said he is sorry. I never ask you anything in life...
Ahlund insulted me in the presence of Marshall. I never say anything to her

I ask a meeting with all the acharyas and I want you to face your repsonsibility of your mistakes/
He makes everyone assistants, and executives too. He said to me that my Babaji gave the job that I have. When he noticed that the salary is low , he said it is servant job and he is using his shakti to follow me and communicating with me.
He sent emails to others students to inform I was very ill and these people phoned me and showed the emails he forwarded. I told Marshall I never had all these diseases.... and he said to me he never forwarded my emails to anyone.

He is used to forward email to acharyas without asking permission with the writer.
He creates lightening during mantra yanga and acharyas and students thinks it is Babaji.... He is doing the same in my house....
One night he was sleeping in my bed...,Since 3 years he is controling my life, since the beginging of 1st initiation he starts following me , I did not take any notice. I always stay from him and never ask any help...

I ask Marshall and Ahlund to stay away for ever in my life. God do not need you in my life and me too. He is best for sexual questions...
He makes me meet a jhoti... and his friend ... who misbehave with me...
I ask Ahlund 1 question; ... she pretends to be a great yogi and giving teacher training but she was unable to anwser to my question, she lies to me.
I will inform all the students and acharyas of your mistakes and how you uses your shakti on others to capture them and to control their life and make them think it is Babaji..


He is full of anger...and sexual desires.... he a
ks only for money...donations. do have a better job; Babaji nevers asks anything to build , he is only investing financialy on the name of Babaji.

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