ReneLL1985 Wrote:
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> I dont see any questions.
That's right, I was just sharing what I found for those who are interested, my post wasn't directed at you. Thanks for pointing to the summary. It's pretty lengthy still, I'll read it when I find the time.
An example of what strikes me as ridiculous about the alien stuff (pulled from the Alien Agenda video's sub file):
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And they make it very clear that the more advanced a race is technologically, the greater its need for resources, the more it has to be engaged in complex arenas of trade, the more it has to be uniform and undemocratic, and the more it's actually vulnerable to having access to what it needs from the Greater Community. And we live in a highly populated
part of the universe where there is not a lot of frontier, where there are very strict rules of trade, a great deal of control over territory.
It's not the Wild West out there, free for our taking.
And war has been suppressed in this region of space. Conquest is suppressed. So if you want to gain influence over another world, you have to do it through other means. And the other means have been cultivated to a very high degree. And we're talking about
persuasion and deception, okay.
And here we are the native peoples of the world thinking that we're in the center of the universe, that if anyone would come to visit us they would come to help us, most naturally, because we are so important to the cosmos. And, you know, we, of course, want higher technology because we want power.
And we have problems here we can't seem to deal with, global problems, resource depletion, climate change, political corruption, a growing dissonance between nations over who will have access to the remaining resources of the world, just one example.
And so we feel very needy of help, see what I'm saying? And so the Allies Briefings make it very clear that those who are in the world today will present themselves as agents of change and beneficial change for humanity.
The world cannot be militarily overtaken because it would destroy its value.
None of the races visiting our world can live here because of the biological hazard.
So they need human assistance. They need us to use the planet the way they want it used.
And they'll even use all of our infrastructure. And the reason that this is new and not ancient is because only in the latter part of the 20th century have we created an infrastructure that foreign races could utilize. The native peoples couldn't do anything for them.
[OK, well what about the times of Atlantis?]
The world's been visited throughout its history. There have been attempts to colonize the planet.
They've all failed because of the biological hazard. And biological hazard is a very big deal in the Greater Community.
What we actually see when we look into space is an unspeakably vast amount of untapped resources, all the energy and matter we could ever need is there, and we don't see anyone mining it. At all. But according to Summers, the resources of the universe are apparently scarce and therefore alien civilizations engage in extensive interstellar trade. This is so obviously fantasy based on how human countries interact with each other. It's all so "nuts and bolts" as they call it in ufo-circles. Jaques Vallee is a reputable scientist that has investigated ufo-sightings in great detail and what becomes clear from his work is that whatever reality there is behind the ufo phenomenon (if any), it's far stranger than we can imagine.
And what's most ridiculous to me is the notion that aliens would choose to communicate with us through some spiritual teacher. There are and have been so many spiritual teachers that have claimed to exclusively receive divine (and/or alien) messages.
Reality as we perceive it in daily life is so much less extravagant than Summers' tales that I can understand their appeal. The evil that really concerns us and that we can really do anything about is our own egotism. And the wisdom we should really learn to listen to is our innate inner wisdom. But addressing our egotism and following our inner wisdom can seem much less appealing than "the new message". It's much easier to believe in alien external evil and follow external wisdom (a *prophet* even) than to confront our inner reality.
That's my two cents and no doubt some people will see it very differently and they're free to do so. And they're even free to try to win souls through deceptive advertising and censorship.
(By censorship I mean their practices on the subreddits that appear to be about aliens but are really fronts for Summers:)
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I was unceremoniously banned without cause, without the ability to appeal, without notice, without being told or given a length or timeframe, and banned from two subReddits simultaneously, in violation of the moderator guidelines — for challenging this groups stranglehold on the alien agenda and alien abduction narrative. They delete with haste any post that counters their groups objectives, and pretend that there is discussions going on that support open dialogue and exploration of the alien topics, but the reality is not true. They care not what anyone’s ideas are and value not objective input. They dont want to consider any viewpoint that counters their narrow and tightly held belief system that purports MARSHALL SUMMERS is indeed the new messiah, that aliens are part of gods plan, and through this wackjobs meditations, and telepathic telegrams from our space brothers comes all hope, inspiration, and resources that humans will need to rise up against bad aliens, and so eventually we can join some kind of galactic super council presided over by presumably Jesus and God himself, with Mr. Summers as their righthand man.
So by now I think it's clear that I won't be converted by prophet Summers and my interest in him and his message is strictly for its entertainment value. But it's not that entertaining to me that I'm willing to devote much more time to it so I may not engage in this discussion much (if at all) anymore.