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Re: News articles on Mipham and Shambhala have burst forth
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: March 16, 2019 09:05PM

Preserving Magic vs. Supporting Victims: A Judith Simmer-Brown Article, Annotated

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Re: Shambhala Sakyong Mipham Rinpoche -- problems
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: March 21, 2019 08:05PM

In a discussion of Mooji, a guru who has generated a lot of harm reports, Swissanalyst wrote something that I think applies to Vajrayana in general.

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Date: March 20, 2019 09:19AM

Rick Archer presents the "few bad apples" theory.

I'd like to offer an alternative point of view: that the entire endeavor of gurus and satsangs and neoadvaita and the like is flawed from the very outset.

If you view your moral principles simply as temporary formations within awareness, then you end up ignoring them.

All that's left is the acting out of the damaged id -- the traumatized infant constantly trying to fulfill its unmet needs, no matter what the consequences for those around it.

If you view your moral principles simply as temporary formations within awareness, then you end up ignoring them.

All that's left is the acting out of the damaged id -- the traumatized infant constantly trying to fulfill its unmet needs, no matter what the consequences for those around it.


Swissanalyst, in what you've written you have in my opinion, identified the flaw in two popular spiritual paths:

Neo Advaita and all of Vajrayana (commonly referenced as Tibetan Buddhism)

I would go so far as to suggest that any system whatsoever that postulates a level of attainment where a human being can regard conventional ethics and boundaries temporary way stations on the upward ascent to Realization is a system that will become a factory that will inevitably produce "realized beings" who are impulse driven toddlers in adult bodies.

They show good manners and charm and earn Nobel Prizes by using their adult capacities to behave well in public where support is to be wooed and maintained.

But in private behind closed doors, they are cruel and greedy children and their entourages know the full ugly truth.

We had Rajneesh gassing himself silly on nitrous oxide, accumulating fancy cars the way children collect Pokemon cards.

Gail Tredwell in her memoir Holy Hell revealed how Amma the Hugging Saint threw tantrums and assaulted her in rages.

In Vajrayana, aka Tibetan Buddhism, moral principes are also viewed as temporary formations within awareness.

"If you view your moral principles simply as "temporary formations within awareness".

In Vajrayana world, we have a long and sorry procession of lamas, tulkus and rinpoches, who have been reported by journalists and others as engaged in various combinations of sex drugs and misbehaving:

* Chogyam Trungpa

* Trunpa's son, Mipham

* Jetsunma Akhon Lahmo

* Sogyal Rinpoche

These are not a few bad apples.

This belief system and the misleading romance that enshrouds it and brings it
hopeful aspirants *innoculates* good people with rottenness -- and attracts predators who smell opportunity.



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Re: Shambhala Sakyong Mipham Rinpoche -- problems
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: March 21, 2019 08:09PM

reddit AMA: 21 Questions on Shambhala

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