New Harvest Christian Fellowship
Posted by: AllforGod ()
Date: February 20, 2018 12:15PM

Ive seen a few posts about New Harvest Christian Fellowship in Norwalk and I would like to add to this conversation. Also if there are any ex members, will you please keep this thread going?
The head pastor of this church is about to step down. He has passed the torch over to a couple, Danny and Sabrina Casas, they're in their mid 30's. His parents pastored in Northern California, Danny and Barbera Casas.
Recently I saw something on FB about how Danny and Sabrina Casas were going to speak to the youth group (they call it Uth)of the church about how they became one, or about their marriage, love story, etc. So they got married very young, I believe they were or she was still in thier teens,they met when they were even younger and began dating.
What bothers me about this type indoctrination on 12-17 year olds is that they will believe that they MUST find the one in church at their current age. The church will defend their stance on young couples because public schools are allowed to teach sex ed. Not the same thing. I am afraid for young girls who may get trapped into a relationship thinking that it's the right thing to do.

This is the youth (uth) ages 12-17 not the "Ignite" young adults church that they use to have. They got rid of that over a year ago maybe two. Once 18 you are in the mainstream church now
This all seems strange to me.

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Re: New Harvest Christian Fellowship
Posted by: ChurchKidd88 ()
Date: May 09, 2018 05:14AM

I'm a former member of NHCF. I still remain in contact with current members. I question the integrity and spiritual legitimacy of the leadership.

The head pastor has profited greatly from being the leader of this organization. When tithes and donations didn't meet the financial needs of the church their focus turned to making the private school a money-maker. The hired staff is paid minimum wage (sometimes even below minimum wage!) and are tasked with supervising students to complete their schoolwork. The curriculum is provided by an outside organization, is self guided and also faith-based. The staff are not certified educators. The selling point of having your kids enrolled at the church's school is that they are taught to be disciplined and their spiritual character is developed.

Tuition from all of these families is what runs the organization. Keeping their focus on recruiting young members keeps the enterprise running and profitable.

Although they have named new younger leadership as a figure head I doubt that the Salazars will retire completely given the very comfortable lifestyle the church has provided them. They live in secrecy in a very exclusive area in Orange County. For years they have driven luxury cars while their congregation made of mostly poor families sacrificed to donate money to the cause of "All For God"

In their defense, they will say that there is a leadership board in place that they answer to but no one on those boards will actually ever call them out or ask for transparency in how the finances are managed. Church positions are often filled by family members and others who would never dare disagree or call into question the actions of leadership. It's seen as rebellion or not sharing the same "vision" as the pastor.

So yes, focusing on youth and encouraging them to marry young, never leave the church and raise their families in the church promotes the longevity of the organization for the future.

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Re: New Harvest Christian Fellowship
Posted by: ThaliaforJesus ()
Date: July 13, 2019 01:38AM

Can you take a look at my post: Righteously Angry with New Harvest Christian Fellowship!! I am very interested to hear your story. I am going to start challenging the leadership in the most public way and I can do it myself but I want everyone to have a voice. Whether it’s by staying anonymous (I am aware that there are legal obligations in some cases) or boldly putting a name and face to someone they’ve lied to and created a false representation of Christ, the Bible, church, relationships and Fellowship. Thank you in advance!

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Re: New Harvest Christian Fellowship
Posted by: honeybear ()
Date: July 25, 2019 08:57AM

Thaliaforjesus

I do not mean to insult your intelligence in any way shape or form, and if I do, please tell me. I would not advise "calling" them out. I am not saying anything bad against you (or insulting). Those people (however they are) have been indoctrinated for so long, and they are deeply embedded in their beliefs (and I do mean deeply). Chances are they know the Bible better than most of us, and that is why they can do what they do. They make subtle changes to the scripture(s)...leave one word out, change the wording just a little bit, add just one word, something like that. Also, keep in mind these people are professional scammers and swindlers.

How would I handle the situation? Never mind the leadership, don't waste your time with them. Place the focus of your efforts on the young people and their parents as it seems that is what you are already doing. Keep doing that. That is the best way to get at the organization--a cult has to have "recruits" to be successful. If they cannot recruit, they go out of "business"

That may be a daunting and frustrating task (hurry up and hire a teenager while they still know everything LOL LOL)...but young people (even older people) want a sense of safety, security, and belonging. When they realize they are not getting that, they will stop going to that source. (Remember the story of Tom Thumb?) It only takes one small crack.

I will be more than happy to assist you with professional research if you wish (free of charge) as I hold a master degree in forensic psychology. I am no where near the level of one who can professionally identify cults, but I will do what I can to help with research.

I believe you are on the right track, and I believe if you continue on this track you will be successful. Don't worry about the ones that got away (or can get away) help the ones who can't get away. You'll do it. Just let me know if I can be of assistance.

Cheerio!

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