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retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: August 23, 2013 11:25AM

People could save some posts if they use Google cache and Bing cache, to view and copy offline webpages. But those could vanish at any moment, so they need to copy them immediately.

[www.googleguide.com]


There is also content up on the internet archive.
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[web.archive.org]
[forum.culteducation.com] has been crawled 906 times going all the way back to May 23, 2004.

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Re: retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: August 23, 2013 11:38AM

and of course it goes without saying that someone should have checked the backups before all the files were permanently deleted! Hard to comprehend.

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Re: retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: August 23, 2013 07:58PM

The system administrator at the current ISP hosting this site failed to check the backup system in place regarding this message board. The backup system was not working and this board was not backed up properly. That failure caused the problem, which occurred during the transition from culteducation.com to culteducation.com

This was a very serious mistake and the current Web development team that is now working on a new design structure for The Cult Education Institute is doing everything possible to somehow retrieve and restore the lost data.But given the profound nature of the backup failure this seems unlikely. The net result will likely be the loss of two years of posts, membership approvals and messages at this message board.

Anyone that became a member within the last two years will have to reapply and join again in order to post here.

Anyone give pre-approved status without moderation in the past two years will have to be pre-approved again.

Very sorry.

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Re: retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: August 25, 2013 09:01PM

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Re: retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: simplify ()
Date: August 26, 2013 03:26AM

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The Anticult
People could save some posts if they use Google cache and Bing cache, to view and copy offline webpages. But those could vanish at any moment, so they need to copy them immediately.

[www.googleguide.com]


There is also content up on the internet archive.
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[web.archive.org]
[forum.culteducation.com] has been crawled 906 times going all the way back to May 23, 2004.

Perhaps those responsible for the backup failure could spend some time copying the archived pages that are linked above?

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Re: retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: August 26, 2013 04:55AM

I agree with you, but sorry the ISP is not willing to do that.

They should, but that's how it is.

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Re: retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: psyborgue ()
Date: August 26, 2013 03:58PM

Might I suggest switching hosting providers as this incompetence on your current hosting provider's part is unsettling. Dreamhost has a good free-speech record and they can make incremental, automatic, backups for you of both your files and databases. It's what I've used for controversial content subject to the litigious whims of cults. Also, a simple script put in a cron job can accomplish the same thing.

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Re: retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 03, 2013 05:08AM

It seems no one is retrieving recent posts from the Google cache or Bing cache, so once those are over-written, they are gone forever.




After that, there are some posts up at the Internet Archive.

The Supreme Master thread is not as bad, the Internet Archive has at least up to page 54.

Supreme Master Television free-to-air satellite -Ching Hai propaganda (to page 54)
[web.archive.org]


How the Internet Archive seems to work, is that it has taken snapshots of the website over time, so you have to click around on different dates, and then at different snapshots, and find as current a date as possible.

This is the main page for this website.


[web.archive.org]


This is up until Aug 5, 2013. [web.archive.org]

But again, each thread seems to be different in which date it was archived to, the only way to figure it out is to click around the Archive site, it seems.

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Re: retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 07, 2013 03:01AM

Here is another example of how to retrieve threads from the Google cache, and then copy them. This same method can be used for any thread of course.


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the cached info from this link [forum.culteducation.com] is still available at the link below.

[webcache.googleusercontent.com]


Its unfortunate that more threads have not been copied from the Google cache, almost all of them are there, but it takes a little know-how to get at them.

For example, in this case you..

1) copy the original link [forum.culteducation.com]

2) paste that link into the Google search bar, and press search.

3) then you do NOT press the link, but you press the little arrow to the right of the link where it says CACHED

4) press the cached link and you will see the stored page. Immediately copy it, as it can disappear at any moment.


In this case you only get page 1 of the thread. To get page 2, you can do another search using remembered keywords from page 2, and hopefully the link will turn up. You can also copy the link from page 2 from the cached page, and repeat the process above, which may work. In this example it does not work though.


Also, there is another way. You simply post the old link at the end of this link which uses the word "example" as an example.

[webcache.googleusercontent.com]

[webcache.googleusercontent.com]


Most of the threads are saved in the Google cache, but they can be deleted at any moment.


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ok figured out how to find the other pages using search operators.

1) go to the standard Google search box.

2) put the title of the thread in QUOTES as a specific phrase, and then use the SITE: operator. In this case you post this into the Google search.

"Werner Erhard family tree" site:forum.culteducation.com


3) that gives you 2 links, if you press the tiny cache arrow beside the second link, you get the second page. The first link gives you the first page.


This process will work for pretty much any thread. The only thing you have to change are the keywords in "quote brackets" which search for the specific words in order.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/07/2013 03:22AM by The Anticult.

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Re: retrieiving posts from Internet Archive and Google/Bing cache
Posted by: The Anticult ()
Date: September 07, 2013 03:43AM

Also, to retrieve any posts from the Google cache, its very simple.


1) go the the Google search box.

2) paste the KEYWORDS you are looking for, followed by the site: operator, which searches the site. In this example, using the word DESTENI as the keyword.

desteni site:forum.culteducation.com

3) press search, that gives you many links, and if you press the tiny arrow beside the link, you get the cached copy.

4) to make it more specific, add more keywords, or even a date. Example.

desteni 2011 site:forum.culteducation.com

desteni 2013 poolman site:forum.culteducation.com

You can even find the page by using this method, and changing the page number as needed.

desteni page=55 site:forum.culteducation.com


"Werner Erhard family tree" page=1 site:forum.culteducation.com

"Werner Erhard family tree" page=2 site:forum.culteducation.com


5) you just keep modifying the keywords to search the cached website.


All of those cached pages can be deleted at any moment.
Share the link to this thread around this forum, so people can get their posts back, before they are gone.

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