Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
Abdias824
()
Date: September 11, 2019 12:48AM
Bodhi68 what exactly is your motivation for being here ? If I speak from my own experience about what i have seen and you refer to it as lies then surely you are simply here as a defense witness for the Cult. Using the old 'hate speech' trick clearly identifies you as a liberalist left wing Soy sucking virtue signalling phoney. I am allowed to vent my anger and if ity gets me banned from here so be it , i can live with that . For me this forum has achieved its goal . It has provided a safe space for those affected by That organisation to speak openly and to provide information to others online where it cannot be deleted on request by one of their connected west coast perma tanned , neatly bearded, uber pious, 200 dollar yoga pant wearing sex pests, and has 100% answered the question 'is mooji a cult'
They have takenb at least 10,000,000 euros in revenue , does this seem a bit far fetched ? do the math for the 2 zmar events coming up , where has it gone Bodhi? where is the support ? where is the loving family? they literally ex-communicate anybody who doesn't conform to the regime of fear and submission. They present themselves as some form of spiritual elite behind their shit-eating grins all the time knowing that the whioole thing is about the dollars.
And they have literally shit all over a beautiful piece of land , tens of thousands of peaople have been shitting into pits in the ground and when they are full they bury it in the ground ? why didnt they build a drainage system and have proper septic tanks and safe removal of this toxic filth by a company? BEACAUSE IT COSTS MONEY AND THEY ARE EXTEREMELY RELUCTANT TO PART WITH YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.
Far easier to bury it and pretend it isn't there, in much the same way theat they deal with any voices of dissent online and on social media. BURY IT , VERY BAD FOR BUSINESS.
GREED is everywhere , it is a poison that is eating away at the fabric of our society. The financier , at least he wears a tie and says ' yes i love the dollar' he makes no real effort to hide it and has no shame. But the priests and the preachers and the new age snake oil Gurus , they are the worst of the worst because they prey on the vulnerability of those who seek the Lord, they smell their weakness and inject them with the venom of deceit and suck their money from them. It is always their downfall GREED. wHEN THE MONEY STOPS WORKING FOR THEM THEY TURN TO POWER. Sniffing around politicians , setting up global sanghas, global subscriptions, global donations, busy schedules doing interviews pushing the product, think BIG , get big ... then the rot sets in , the men in black infiltrate, the food tastes metallic, the blacmail begins, the past starts to bubble up like the noxious gas from the bottom of a polluted lake, Fame at last but not the kind dreamed of , so may broken hearts and fryed nerves and bad haircuts , the fifth step of a descending staircase
I saw it all in the blackness of a crows eye
rEGARDS
kEVIN
They have takenb at least 10,000,000 euros in revenue , does this seem a bit far fetched ? do the math for the 2 zmar events coming up , where has it gone Bodhi? where is the support ? where is the loving family? they literally ex-communicate anybody who doesn't conform to the regime of fear and submission. They present themselves as some form of spiritual elite behind their shit-eating grins all the time knowing that the whioole thing is about the dollars.
And they have literally shit all over a beautiful piece of land , tens of thousands of peaople have been shitting into pits in the ground and when they are full they bury it in the ground ? why didnt they build a drainage system and have proper septic tanks and safe removal of this toxic filth by a company? BEACAUSE IT COSTS MONEY AND THEY ARE EXTEREMELY RELUCTANT TO PART WITH YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY.
Far easier to bury it and pretend it isn't there, in much the same way theat they deal with any voices of dissent online and on social media. BURY IT , VERY BAD FOR BUSINESS.
GREED is everywhere , it is a poison that is eating away at the fabric of our society. The financier , at least he wears a tie and says ' yes i love the dollar' he makes no real effort to hide it and has no shame. But the priests and the preachers and the new age snake oil Gurus , they are the worst of the worst because they prey on the vulnerability of those who seek the Lord, they smell their weakness and inject them with the venom of deceit and suck their money from them. It is always their downfall GREED. wHEN THE MONEY STOPS WORKING FOR THEM THEY TURN TO POWER. Sniffing around politicians , setting up global sanghas, global subscriptions, global donations, busy schedules doing interviews pushing the product, think BIG , get big ... then the rot sets in , the men in black infiltrate, the food tastes metallic, the blacmail begins, the past starts to bubble up like the noxious gas from the bottom of a polluted lake, Fame at last but not the kind dreamed of , so may broken hearts and fryed nerves and bad haircuts , the fifth step of a descending staircase
I saw it all in the blackness of a crows eye
rEGARDS
kEVIN
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
rrmoderator
()
Date: September 11, 2019 01:05AM
Abdias824;
Please take it down a notch with less heated rhetoric.
No need to respond to trolls.
Troll posts are being deleted.
Please take it down a notch with less heated rhetoric.
No need to respond to trolls.
Troll posts are being deleted.
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
Truth22
()
Date: September 11, 2019 02:27AM
Snark and baiting also against CEI forum rules.
Material of this kind will be removed.
Meanwhile, our best response is ignore trolling.
Any weird or insulting private messages should be copied and sent to Rick Ross, the moderator.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/11/2019 05:13AM by corboy.
Material of this kind will be removed.
Meanwhile, our best response is ignore trolling.
Any weird or insulting private messages should be copied and sent to Rick Ross, the moderator.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/11/2019 05:13AM by corboy.
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: September 11, 2019 03:32AM
The trolls are coming out to play.
Do not respond to taunts. Do not let them bait us.
We go into rages in print, they enjoy our discomfiture.
Dont give them pleasure.
Do not respond to taunts. Do not let them bait us.
We go into rages in print, they enjoy our discomfiture.
Dont give them pleasure.
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
Ananas
()
Date: September 11, 2019 03:46AM
Sahara71 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
I have been looking into this cult for some time. I did find out a lot of fascinating stuff - much
of which I can't write about here, out of respect
for those people which were kind enough to put
their trust in me and share their stories.
Allegedly:
Yes, the Mooji organisation are a destructive cult. They exploit people for fee labor under
harsh conditions. They groom people in order to
liberate them from their money, and in some cases
they attempt to extort money from members.
Mooji exploits young women sexually. He
misrepresents himself and his intentions and pretends to be enlightened so as to exert power
over impressionable women. He has been promiscuous
and unfaithful.
The Mooji group use coercive mind control
(coercive persuasion) on members to make them
compliant and devoted. This is a subtle process
which works to varying degrees on different
members. It involves people giving up their sense
of themselves as a rational, independent, free-thinking individuals and becoming
directionless and helpless.
The techniques used include psychological
gas-lighting, over-work, restricting information,
secrecy, emotional and psychological intimidation,
competition for approval, repeated chanting,
public shaming, a low-protein diet, enforced
silence, disapproval of personal friendships and
physical deprivation, including having to access
to heating in the winter and the use of cold water
only in showers.
People at Monte Sahaja live in a culture of fear. There has been one report of physical assault of a volunteer by a staff member.
Mooji deliberately distorts the teaching of Advaita Vedanta. He teaches only one part of this
sacred doctrine, the so-called "self-inquiry"
technique, which he uses to de-center a person's
sense of self, making them vulnerable to
thought-reform. There is a trance-induction
component to most of his spoken teachings, which
can alter people's cognitive function. Many people
at Monte Sahaja report short-term memory loss.
Until very recently, Mooji falsely claimed that he
was a direct spiritual descendant of Ramana
Mahashi. Ramana left no spiritual linage, so these
claims were categorically false and provably
false.
> Mooji's closest allies will do anything for him,
including lie and cheat. They are taught that
"it's Ok to lie for the truth". They are
quite relentless and vindictive, going to so far
as to use racist slurs towards one of Mooji's main
detractors.
Mooji ordered the heron to be shot dead from the
sky.
The Mooji group use lawyers to intimidate people
into silence. Interestingly, the legal firm which
> they choose to employ have a record of keeping an
> supporting an employee who is (allegedly) up on
> charges of assaulting a female from his office!
> Does the expression "birds of a feather flock
> together" have any relevance here?
>
> Be Scofield spoke to actual people who had actual
> experience at Monte Sahaja for her widely-read
> article. I spoke to several of the same people as
> she herself did. They were articulate, detailed
> and consistent in what they told me.
>
> The Moo group harbor people with significant
> mental illness at Monte Sahaja and do not assist
> them to access medical and psychological support,
> in fact there is evidence to suggest that they
> exploit such people for free labor.
>
> The Mooji organisation repeatedly publish
> disclaimers informing us that people with
psychological issues will not receive any help
from them and yet those people will be expected to
attend 'satsung' and maintain silence on retreats.
There has been 3 reported suicides associated with
this group.
In conclusion, Mooji runs an exploitative,
socially-harmful cult. He does so deliberately and
knowingly.
Thank you so much Sahara! It is necessary to repeat the truth again and again and again! I can confirm EVERYTHING you write!!
-------------------------------------------------------
I have been looking into this cult for some time. I did find out a lot of fascinating stuff - much
of which I can't write about here, out of respect
for those people which were kind enough to put
their trust in me and share their stories.
Allegedly:
Yes, the Mooji organisation are a destructive cult. They exploit people for fee labor under
harsh conditions. They groom people in order to
liberate them from their money, and in some cases
they attempt to extort money from members.
Mooji exploits young women sexually. He
misrepresents himself and his intentions and pretends to be enlightened so as to exert power
over impressionable women. He has been promiscuous
and unfaithful.
The Mooji group use coercive mind control
(coercive persuasion) on members to make them
compliant and devoted. This is a subtle process
which works to varying degrees on different
members. It involves people giving up their sense
of themselves as a rational, independent, free-thinking individuals and becoming
directionless and helpless.
The techniques used include psychological
gas-lighting, over-work, restricting information,
secrecy, emotional and psychological intimidation,
competition for approval, repeated chanting,
public shaming, a low-protein diet, enforced
silence, disapproval of personal friendships and
physical deprivation, including having to access
to heating in the winter and the use of cold water
only in showers.
People at Monte Sahaja live in a culture of fear. There has been one report of physical assault of a volunteer by a staff member.
Mooji deliberately distorts the teaching of Advaita Vedanta. He teaches only one part of this
sacred doctrine, the so-called "self-inquiry"
technique, which he uses to de-center a person's
sense of self, making them vulnerable to
thought-reform. There is a trance-induction
component to most of his spoken teachings, which
can alter people's cognitive function. Many people
at Monte Sahaja report short-term memory loss.
Until very recently, Mooji falsely claimed that he
was a direct spiritual descendant of Ramana
Mahashi. Ramana left no spiritual linage, so these
claims were categorically false and provably
false.
> Mooji's closest allies will do anything for him,
including lie and cheat. They are taught that
"it's Ok to lie for the truth". They are
quite relentless and vindictive, going to so far
as to use racist slurs towards one of Mooji's main
detractors.
Mooji ordered the heron to be shot dead from the
sky.
The Mooji group use lawyers to intimidate people
into silence. Interestingly, the legal firm which
> they choose to employ have a record of keeping an
> supporting an employee who is (allegedly) up on
> charges of assaulting a female from his office!
> Does the expression "birds of a feather flock
> together" have any relevance here?
>
> Be Scofield spoke to actual people who had actual
> experience at Monte Sahaja for her widely-read
> article. I spoke to several of the same people as
> she herself did. They were articulate, detailed
> and consistent in what they told me.
>
> The Moo group harbor people with significant
> mental illness at Monte Sahaja and do not assist
> them to access medical and psychological support,
> in fact there is evidence to suggest that they
> exploit such people for free labor.
>
> The Mooji organisation repeatedly publish
> disclaimers informing us that people with
psychological issues will not receive any help
from them and yet those people will be expected to
attend 'satsung' and maintain silence on retreats.
There has been 3 reported suicides associated with
this group.
In conclusion, Mooji runs an exploitative,
socially-harmful cult. He does so deliberately and
knowingly.
Thank you so much Sahara! It is necessary to repeat the truth again and again and again! I can confirm EVERYTHING you write!!
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
Sahara71
()
Date: September 11, 2019 06:44AM
If anyone who has been personally adversely effected by the Mooji cult, then you can raise your concerns with the U.K. Charity Commission.
The Mooji Foundation are a registered charity, which is how they maintain a tax-free status and hoard all the money. However, they are legally held accountable to how they treat their volunteers.
Take a look at this link: [forms.charitycommission.gov.uk]
If you are suffering psychological distress form your time in this cult (or any cult) then please contact your trusted local doctor for a referral to a trained, experienced, registered psychologist who can help you to heal.
The Mooji Foundation are a registered charity, which is how they maintain a tax-free status and hoard all the money. However, they are legally held accountable to how they treat their volunteers.
Take a look at this link: [forms.charitycommission.gov.uk]
If you are suffering psychological distress form your time in this cult (or any cult) then please contact your trusted local doctor for a referral to a trained, experienced, registered psychologist who can help you to heal.
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
Horowitz
()
Date: September 11, 2019 07:21PM
Bodhi68 puts himself in the position of a star-up spiritual teacher in Germany and begins with a small Mooji sangha there. I read his posts here and I already felt his “balanced” “apologetic” teaching approaches and a strong sensitivity to the truth and proven evidences by permanently overlooking many critical sources towards Mooji online. It’s fine with me, but it appears to me that Bodhi68 is not ready to spiritually teach anybody yet or to give any spiritual advices and there is still a long way to go for him to really see the truth….
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
Joyfree
()
Date: September 11, 2019 07:59PM
Bodhi68
Just because you are not ready to accept certain facts and statements it doesn’t mean they are not true!
Just because you don’t like it, it doesn’t mean it is a lie!
Just because your experience might have been a different one, it doesn’t mean that others did not experience what is shared
Because your mind chooses to believe in something, it doesn’t mean it is true!
Just because you are not ready to accept certain facts and statements it doesn’t mean they are not true!
Just because you don’t like it, it doesn’t mean it is a lie!
Just because your experience might have been a different one, it doesn’t mean that others did not experience what is shared
Because your mind chooses to believe in something, it doesn’t mean it is true!
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
JDecosta
()
Date: September 11, 2019 09:26PM
Truth22 Wrote:
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> Attention !! The forum is compromised.
>
> Please have a look at the post below that was
> posted in my name.
>
> I DID NOT POST THIS.SOMEBODY POSTED IN MY
> NAME
>
>
------
> Truth22 Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > Snark and baiting also against CEI forum rules.
> >
> > Material of this kind will be removed.
> >
> > Meanwhile, our best response is ignore
> trolling.
> >
> > Any weird or insulting private messages should
> be
> > copied and sent to Rick Ross, the moderator.
>
>
> I DID NOT POST THIS.SOMEBODY POSTED IN MY
> NAME
-----
At the top I read posted by truth22 and at the bottom: edited by corboy.
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> Attention !! The forum is compromised.
>
> Please have a look at the post below that was
> posted in my name.
>
> I DID NOT POST THIS.SOMEBODY POSTED IN MY
> NAME
>
>
------
> Truth22 Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > Snark and baiting also against CEI forum rules.
> >
> > Material of this kind will be removed.
> >
> > Meanwhile, our best response is ignore
> trolling.
> >
> > Any weird or insulting private messages should
> be
> > copied and sent to Rick Ross, the moderator.
>
>
> I DID NOT POST THIS.SOMEBODY POSTED IN MY
> NAME
-----
At the top I read posted by truth22 and at the bottom: edited by corboy.
Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: September 11, 2019 09:47PM
Moojibaba discussion thread view count
(Pacific Standard Time USA)
September 11
10:13am view count is 396,629
2:15pm view count is 396,839
4:06pm 396,934
6:28pm 307,009
September 12
307,369 5:26am
307,729 at12:38pm
307,804 2:11pm
September 13
308,839 4:55pm
September 14
309,041 3:55am
309,058 4:26am
309,165 9:01am
309,506 4:27pm
September 15. 5:25PM
310,344
September 16 5;27am
310,723
311,310. 4:46pm
September 17
311,669. 4:45am
The influx of trolls will increase the view count and by bringing all this traffic, boost the Alexa ratings for Cult Education Institute.
Edited 18 time(s). Last edit at 09/17/2019 07:46PM by corboy.
(Pacific Standard Time USA)
September 11
10:13am view count is 396,629
2:15pm view count is 396,839
4:06pm 396,934
6:28pm 307,009
September 12
307,369 5:26am
307,729 at12:38pm
307,804 2:11pm
September 13
308,839 4:55pm
September 14
309,041 3:55am
309,058 4:26am
309,165 9:01am
309,506 4:27pm
September 15. 5:25PM
310,344
September 16 5;27am
310,723
311,310. 4:46pm
September 17
311,669. 4:45am
The influx of trolls will increase the view count and by bringing all this traffic, boost the Alexa ratings for Cult Education Institute.
Edited 18 time(s). Last edit at 09/17/2019 07:46PM by corboy.
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