Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 04, 2019 06:23AM

Who spends $40,000 on not a legit issue? Why did all, every single one the specialists focus on m.? I thought it was me.

And I know the rebuttal. You must have been mentally ill before hand.

That’s what I thought too. That’s the self doubt. That’s the self blame. That’s what leads to people KILLING THEMSELVES, ending up living there days out trapped in SHAME.

And that’s the problem.

If you are at all leery of m.

Run!

If u kinda like him and kinda don’t.

You haven’t seen clearly yet. Pick a side for your own sake.

Something else m and his crowd like to say is “there is no proof”

I’m the PROOF!!!!

He knows he has people sign NDA, no one can take pictures or videos but him, he dissociates you from your power so you can’t fight back, the group attacks you for the slightest deviation, you don’t know anyone’s real names, no one trusts each other, and yet everyone still trusts him...until they don’t.

So how many cards are stacked against PROVING things. He gloats about it because he’s designed it that way.

Wake up! RUN! Or you will die in the mouth of a FAKE TIGER!



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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: klaklaklak ()
Date: May 04, 2019 06:40AM

Thank you so much Annette.....

One time m said he wouldn’t, but if he ever wanted to return the curses that fly his way it would destroy the recipient’s human life. it can’t destroy who they are but they don’t know who they are anyway. Would you say Mooji cursed your ‘person’?

Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 04, 2019 06:52AM

He’s cursed so many, you have no idea.

But his curse is easily broken when you turn and face him! He’s a coward! And I would die fighting him before I’d turn away or look away from his eyes.

He has said he could curse people if he wanted to. And he has wanted to.

This is not Freedom.

The crazy man on the street corner says the same thing as do mental patients.

Now I say to m

YOU KNOW WHO I AM! IF YOU WANT ME COME AND FIND ME! NOTHING YOU SEND OR DO WILL HURT WHO I AM! I WILL FIGHT YOU! AND LIGHT WILL WIN!

Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 04, 2019 06:59AM

m

Is “child’s play” to the true Light of our being.

Like a cockroach that never dies. You just see him as such and there goes the spells.

Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 04, 2019 07:09AM

The man can’t stand to be alone. I saw it myself. Krishnabai left and he turned and couldn’t find her in the dining hall. I saw his weakness. It confused the hell out of me.

Oh, on stage and hiding behind people he’s a big guy...

I saw you alone and how you were. I will never forget it.

Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 04, 2019 08:05AM

I’ve been getting quite a few detailed emails from people who are trusting me on here. This is the reason for my change in tone.

In the end I spend more and more time in a deep peace that doesn’t even mind the pain that arises inside my body re m.

Sometimes the most painful experiences are the very ones consciousness uses to bring you back home.

Enjoy your weekend everyone!

Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: May 04, 2019 08:34AM

There is nothing wrong with our attachment to love so long as this is real love, which is rooted in truthfulness, and all persons involved being free from fear, whether conscious or unconscious fear.

Real love includes respect for each other *without* needing each other for validdation, except for time limited crises.Real love develops in secure relationships no the insecure fear driven trauma bonds we have been discussing here.

We get trapped when we are unhealed disiriented, and equate love and respect with looking to someone for validation. We might start vulnerable and get recruited into a trauma bond with an abuser who teaches us to equate his or her cocktail of bliss fear and confusion as being love. It is not. It is loves counter feit.

Validation is another name for self soothing or self building.We need validation but unless we are in a secure honest relation ship that relationshio *cannot* support validating input.

Validation is more than information, it includes context for info to ve validating and repair or strengthen our selves the context,the relationship must honest and secure.

Ever notice how several persons say the same thing and one person just hits your sweet spot and revives you? Info and context matched and you two humanized and dignified each other.

That's why the right listen ERS are needed for us to heal.

Nothing wrong w getting attached to this, we can't live and thrive without this.

A true teacher and capable parents give secure relationship in which self building takes place. We grow and at last are secure enough to outgrow the relationship and are blessed, not cursed by the true teacher/parent.

Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: AnnetteChappelle ()
Date: May 04, 2019 09:17AM

Corboy,

Often m uses the line “it’s ok to attach to me because i won’t attach to you”

It is true that attachment is normal and healthy. Especially to healthy people who are reciprocal.

I said it’s the last to fall, because once you see yourself as love itself then nothing is left to be attached. There’s simply love and even to say that is too much. Anyway esoteric conversations go in circles as philosophical ones do as well.

In RO’s video he was saying I’m not attached anymore to you m. And that was his freedom.

So maybe this clears up what I meant. If not that’s ok too.

Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: RO ()
Date: May 04, 2019 10:58AM

I had no idea the signifigance of what our exchange was at the time. I also will not regret or take back what I experienced and came away with from being there.

I guess reading how passionate people are knowing this now could become a real movement toward better understanding of m...i want to help in any way. I still watch it like an out-of-body experience. I see how I realized, but seem to see him drawing me back in. Then giving him that Ego boost of saying YOU are the reason which he then has to deny or give himself away! Man, the whole thing is creepy now.

Just know that I dont know why I had the strength to stay free, but also get to experience GOD the way I did during that retreat.

If I have any responsibility in helping others through that exchange...I hope it does!
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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Ananas ()
Date: May 04, 2019 04:47PM

snapping-out Wrote:
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> Before falling for this false master I had no idea
> what advaita was, during my involvement with this
> cult I had no idea, and I still don't. Something
> to do with non-duality? Just to point out how
> shallow all this spiritual blurp of his is.


Yes, this serves m's purpose so well. People with no clue of Advaita are easiest to manipulate into his bent version of Advaita, which isn't even one. He is an energy manipulator, nothing more.


Most of his followers find M. via youtube. And many (most?) of them have no background in Advaita Vedanta when they start watching his videos. It was like that for me too and it did not take long until I found myself binge watching. Many people report this: they find Mooji and soon cannot stop watching his youtubes.


As long as I was part of this, I never questioned that part. But we have to ask questions about this: what exactly is it, that draws people to his videos in an addictive manner and hooks them? Why do his videos induce trance states? Are these trance states only induced by his talking or is there more going on? Why do people keep watching it, although it’s very repetitive, boring and so time and focus consuming? Mooji claims to be an Advaita teacher, so why are so many people drawn to him, having no clue whatsoever of Advaita? There are many answers to these questions in this forum, I raise the questions for people who start waking up from the illusion that they have found god in human form, or jesus.


Let us be real: Advaita teachings are „not attractive“ per se and only very advanced students come NATURALLY to this very final step of the spiritual search. With Mooji it has become a mass movement, so why and how is that? Think about it...


He is able to manipulate energy big way. Does he manipulate energy to get as many people as possible hooked? Does he only use white magic or also dark/black energy? Well, I agree with Annette on that question. Check out Jamaican Obeah Vodoo (if you know Sahaja, you can identify which people near him also have knowledge of Obeah and are willing to use it). Is he cursing? Is he calling people the devil, possesed by the devil, is he calling them pure evil? YES. Does that proove that he is NOT beyond duality? Yes.


So one very important part is to know WHAT he does, his tricks and manipulative techniques (so many great insights about all of that in this forum!). Once you see through them he cannot catch you. How to avoid that his dark/black energy affects you? You have to OWN your energy, your energy field, your soul, however you want to call it. You have to grow up spiritually, clean up your parents issues and heal your traumata. You have to develop discernment and spiritual autonomy. You have to reclaim your power and own yourself before you can be free from duality. Dont look for answers outside yourself. It is all within and presented from life itself every moment. Life itself gives you feedback all the time, it is direct, clear and loving feedback. Not a bent, manipulative feedback which has the agenda to bind you, to use you, to get your money, attention, labour, body or to feed in any shape or form from you.

May all beings be FREE. Real freedom.

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