(Glum)

One cannot stay healthy living only on vegetables unless highly knowledgeable about dietetics and with access to all that one needs.

At the very least one must also include legumes and grains for additional complimentary protein.

Younger women need sufficient bio available iron in their diets so as not to become anemic due to blood loss from menses. Iron deficiency anemia leaves one feeling cold all the time and easily fatigued, nervousness, heart palpitations -- and vulnerability to infections.

Finally, some persons cannot obtain sufficient protein from even the best
lacto ovo vegetarian diet.

A long time resident at a Zen monastery told me that he was one of a handful of persons there who learned through trial and error that they needed some meat each day in order to stay healthy and not be constantly coming down with colds and hard to repair injuries. Their bodies could not efficiently metabolise protein from all veg sources.

I could smell this coming... the 'Beloved Holy Father' (Tony from Brixton) has made this new video:
"We Are Being Offered a Higher Path". [www.youtube.com]

I knew many opportunist "spiritual" figures would try to capitalize on this pandemic by offering their various new age platitudes in hopes of recruiting new "converts". And right on cue, he's in there like a dirty shirt with the slick graphics, and calming music.

It's a calculated soft sell... there's no mention that if you get more interested in him, you'll become aware of Bhajans (songs of worship) that praise him as God etc.

Time to keep a careful eye on the "Master:!

Namaste. I would like to document a posting from guru ratings in this forum.

[gururating.org]

Bree wrote on 31 March 2020
"What i really don’t understand is if this is not a cult or plain confusion why is my beloved crazed and stuck to the screen 24/7 like a zombie. You ask a question he’s like mooji doesn’t like that or mooji does not advocate for it. Now he does not even want to see me or his child all in the name of Mooji. For Fs sake what’s is it with this man? Your own soul should be your own guru."

Bree wrote 2 April 2020
"my beloved is vehaving the same way. You can even ask him if he has seen the car keys and he will react with a mooji does not like disturbance. He insults me and claims mooji said everything is rubbish. Now he wants me and his child out of his house because he has discovered himself through mooji the great claiming i am supposed to suffer if i don’t follow what is being said . He always wants to be pat at the back if he says something from or about mooji. If you don’t compliment it you are stupid… is this stupidity or what?"



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This is for people who trapped in the vicious cycle.

Why the Narcissist doesn’t want you to move on?
How can you break out of the cycle?

[www.youtube.com]

Reach out to your love ones, together Love will find a way.

Ananas Wrote September 10, 2019 12:50AM:
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> NoWayNowhere Wrote:
>
> > Ananas I agree with you that there can never be
> > any proof of whether someone is enlightened or
> > realized. Unfortunately there is no objective
> > yardstick for that. But these questions are
> also
> > beyond our possibilities of discussion here.
>
>
> To me, this is another MYTH spread by many self
> claimed gurus: that others can NEVER know if
> someone is enlightened. This is PERFECT and so
> convinient for them, as they can always hide
> behind that belief. I dont't buy it anymore! If a
> person is lying, showing all kinds of unethical
> behaviour, abusing others in diffrent ways, this
> person is not enlightened.

Dear All, hope everyone is fine at home sitting out the covid19. Was reading through some of the older posts and came across this by Ananas, which I would like to reaffirm through my own experience.

I have had a chance in Feb 2017 to hug moo in India, Rishikesh during the satsang season. I confess my ego felt very good. The thought was "thousands want to hold him like this but will rarely get a chance like me". Very egoic I must say.

Feb 2018 no satsang for some reasons, so Feb 2019 I did not go India for satsang and wrote him an email with a very specific question. He did not reply my question specifically to the point but used it to wow the crowd. I felt good at that time, my ego given a pat on its back for writing such a 'beautiful letter'. The other part of me was still confused.

Oct 2019, I visited the new hall at ramana ashram in Tiruvannamalai, where his body was buried. When I stepped into the hall, it was like losing consciousness, and being floored in a boxing ring. I know now that it was a temporary absence of my ego, and without the ego, the world did not exist, like in a deep sleep. I also found the specific answer to my question within myself while I was at the ashram.

Well, I can only say that when you experienced the real, the fake is so obvious. Moo is a fake. He could not answer the question because in my opinion, he has not experienced it. Even if he had experienced it and deliberately withheld the answer from me, that would equally have served to invalidate his status as an enlightened Guru.

In the state of perpetual, uninterrupted singular existence, that was never born or will never die, he would not have been capable of propagating the decision to end the life of the heron, because it is similar to harming himself, since both manifested objects (him and the heron) are from the same origin. This also explains why ramana could understand animals (e.g. cow, bird, monkeys, snake...etc) and converse with them.

So if it has been proven in this forum by testimony of eye witnesses, as well as other external sources that he killed the heron and have caused hurt to others, he is just like you and me. No doubt about it.



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Namaste,just came across a video from facebook.

[www.facebook.com]

Can somebody help me understand what is happening here? I saw the label for the video but decided not to jump to conclusion. The scream from the lady is chilling.

I have had a two powerful love black magic removed from me many years ago by monks from Thailand. There were some prayers, burning of talisman, stepping over charcoal fire and taking a holy water bath after that, but the video shows I-don't-know-what-the-hell. This is as good as in the Conjuring I II movie.

yes, chilling!

i first saw it in 2017 on this facebook page - "chi-ting apocalypse" it looks like it was on youtube but was taken down [www.facebook.com]

Hi Stefa and too many suicides,

The video of the exorcism has been doing the rounds for a long time. It has been downloaded and shared in private messages and emails, prolifically. Initially the Mooji group tried to control the sharing of this video (and others) by citing copyright violation, which is apparently a tactic that many cults use in order to control information.

One person posting on this very forum around 18 months ago, said that such exorcisms were reasonably common in the Moo organisation.

It seems like they may have just 'given up' trying to use legal tactics to prevent people seeing the video - but we don't know why. Since the article by Be Scofield has been so widely read and shared, perhaps such videos are simply the least of their worries? To the best of my knowledge, the Moo group have not pursued Schofield in any way, other than to try and discredit her by posting links to the fake (and badly written) "Culture or Cult" website.

I think one of the main problems is that there has been so many people who have passed through this cult, that it has been impossible for them to trace where leaked information is coming from. The enforced level of secrecy only works if people never leave the cult! But so many people have left, and no-one can prevent these people now sharing information with each other.

Anyway, I'd suggest that the woman in the exorcism video needs urgent specialist medical care, not some loony in a robe pretending to perform some weird ritual in order to entertain the crowd.

Moo behaved horribly by conducting that "exorcism" publicly, recording it on video, then disseminating that video online.

Did anyone on Moo's media team advise him that filming and distributing this video would demonstrate that any Moo devotee risks egregious and permanent violation of their privacy?

That any devotee who looses self control in front of Moo risks their abasement being recorded and put online?

I see Moo being indifferent to this woman's current and future welfare.

Did he ask himself how she might feel afterwards, knowing she was filmed and the video put online for the world to see?

The young woman was robbed of her privacy, and put on display to advertise Moo's specialness.

This is blatant egoism on Moo's part.

Corboy sees this as a display of dominance, rationalized by a facade of "spirituality."



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Good general information about cult indoctrination and 'brain-washing' techniques by someone who has suffered at the hands more than one false guru:

[www.youtube.com]

I've summarized the main points for those who prefer reading:

1. You feel uncomfortable, but you don't know why. What does this guru really want from me? Are they empowering me, or is the focus all on them? The words they speak may make perfect sense and may sound beautiful, but you have questions.
2. You feel confused – there seems to be opposing concepts in the so-called "teachings". There are things that are vague and could have double meanings. You experience some cognitive dissonance and feeling foggy. The false teacher uses‘word salad’. You wonder why you don't quite 'get it'.
3. You begin to doubt yourself and your place in the world. Then you begin to deny your doubts and confusions. The false teacher could confirm that this state of doubt is normal and to be expected. You might not want to look stupid, especially in front of other members, so you go along with it.
4. The false teacher will introduce the group's dogma or belief-system here. There will be a lot of concepts that you are not familiar with. You agree with what you are taught, even though you don’t understand it. The teacher has the power of knowing more than you do and has done all this before! They are clever at working out what to say in order to win you over.
5. You feel pressure to accept the dogma, because you want to belong to a community. You deny any doubts. It doesn’t feel good – although in some specific moments, it feels great. You get the creeping feeling that if you could just let go of all your doubts, the everything would be wonderful.
6. Your thinking beings to shift. You feel good, like you belong for the first time in your life, because a carrot has been dangled in front of your nose – the reward seems to be there within your grasp. You feel pressure to keep putting in the work, being more and more devoted, trying harder and harder to do what the false teacher says. You begin to feel exhausted and sucked dry. Your own internal dialogue is drowned out and replaced by what the false teacher wants you to think. You might feel like you are in a trance when you leave the ashram or group, because the real world is no longer 'your world'.
7. You begin to implode. You can no longer accept the ‘old you’. You feel like you no longer have your sense of ‘self’.
8. Emotional catharsis. The false group that you belong to will celebrate this new state in you are in, and tell you that you are close to ‘enlightenment’ or ‘God’. This is a very vulnerable state.
9. You believe this break-down is actually a ‘break-through’. Your old world now seems not to exist. But the promised enlightenment never arrives. Now you will do the false teacher’s bidding.
10. You are now welcomed to the ‘group’ or ‘family’. However, you have to always do what they tell you. There is no room for dissent. You are open to exploitation.

By the way, I personally got to around stage 4 or 5 in the above process while I was following Mooji's pointings. But my doubts outweighed my 'wanting to feel good' by just trusting and accepting everything I was being told. I began to ask too many questions. I began to research and cross-reference what Moo was saying with traditional Advaita Vedanta doctrine.