This person's description of the food at the Zmar retreat (a recruitment point for persons who might get more deeply involved w Moo later on?) differs from what Constantin reported of the food provided for ashram denizens at Monte Sahaja.
We need to learn what kind of food Moo and his inner circle are given.
The food that was prepared three times a day was delicious. Between the satsangs, you could go ahead. Just walk, swim, find a nice place to meditate, in short you imagine yourself in a paradise like Eva before she ate the apple.
(Corboy note: how can one imagine that denizens of Monte Sahaja might live in very different, quite inferior conditions - and be spied on, as alleged by Constantin and others?)
vs Constantin's report at Monte Sahaja
The food we get os not so great. They put little salt in the food so then you end up in the shop buying chips and things. More and more commercial activity. Now they are two Cafe's. And the pizzeria should be opening, but I heard that those papers for a restaurant licence where not granted.
Yet I could see everything that happened there from a distance and saw all devotees who considered Mooji a new god. That kind of worship only ensures that you get further away from yourself. You become part of one major common denominator and walk along with the crowd. No longer thinking about it yourself, but accepting everything uncritically, was the danger of the Osho movement and is the danger for Mooji and his (future) followers. Many people get bogged down in a spiritual haze through this worship. It gives you blinkers and also stops your self-examination because you have already found it with your teacher.
I personally think that life itself is your greatest teacher. In every life, opportunities for growth appear. There is no real control over your life, there is everything that can happen to you. Beautiful things, but also difficult and sad events. It may very well be that you have gained insights via Mooji or other teachers who can help you, that applies to me too. But I do live in this world and I do not shut people out because they do not fit into my (spiritual) club. Traditionally, people are looking for groups to belong to because it offers safety. Just look at the history of what misery has brought; the glorification of leaders often makes us feel a sense of feeling, feelings of power, we are better than the rest. It takes a lot of energy and courage to put you outside the collective once you are in it, so you stay.
Blinkers are creeping up when you are in the herd; you only see the things you want to see. Criticism is no longer there, because there are other, more beautiful things to delve into. So it was the supporters of Osho and so I saw it happen in the week retreat at Mooji. One arrives in an organized group with like-minded people and wants to stay there because it feels so wonderful, but that bliss is usually short-lived; once you leave the group it disappears. You can of course come to certain insights by spiritual teachers. Listen to what they say, be critical, but live your own life and not that of the group!
Fow you are greeted at a Zmar retreat vs how (reported by Constantin) peope were were treated at Monte Sahaja when the Moo Romance ended.
Around Mooji there is - just like with Osho at the time - an entire organization that ensures that everything runs smoothly. And that is what it does, I have experienced.
Full of attention and love you are welcomed in the bus with a namaste, on the way to the place where the retreat takes place. At this retreat we are with about seven hundred people who are all looking for the same. That creates a bond. Mooji gives a satsang three times a day, he speaks and (uncritical) questions can be asked.
Thank you for your notes. I sway back and forth between leaving and staying, the Ashram is "Shutting Down" once again which means basically means we kick anybody out we don't want.
. Which reminds me of the new land that was bought a while back, five times bigger, where nothing has happened because of legal issues. Locals had to vote on the issue and it failed.
A little bit wild wild country here. I remember people being asked to vote.
(Corboy Shades of Rajneesh/Osho at Antelope Valley, Oregon!)
It's really sad that Moo doesn't own up to any of these issues and fails to deliver transparency.
If you really have nothing to hide then you can speak openly about anything.
One reason for my Anonymity here is the fear of back-lash I have seen over the years that other people went through.
One man with family was kicked out for speaking out. He had a family and was working on the land to support his children.
Over the years many people have left us and I guess soon I will also be one of them. Its too bad, I really had high hopes that mooo had something special to offer.
Two comments that follow the New Osho article.
Paul (Surname omitted for privacy - Corboy)
November 19, 2018
After reading your article, I would like to respond. I am surprised about your story. It is 100% false. You have unfortunately not understood the message of self-realization that Mooji speaks about. The 'we against the rest' feeling that you are referring to is not at all the order. It is precisely through the Satsang that you come closer to your true self and you will understand all people, spiritually or not, from the point of non-duality and you will see that most people speak from their egos and not from their true 'Being'. If you really experience and feel that you will understand each person better and you will be more understanding and with more love towards others in life.
November 21, 2018
Dear Paul, something is never 100% false or true. Anna's experiences are clearly less positive than yours. This does not mean that she did not understand it at all. The documentary "Wild Wild Country" clearly shows two sides of a story within a context of the spirit of the times. I am glad for you that you have found your truth, but I find Anna's critical view of spiritual leaders and guru admirable because she chooses her own life and not the pressure from the group around the guru.
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