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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: StartingOver
Date: March 31, 2018 07:25PM
I was a long time supporter of mooji and spent quite a bit of time at Sahaja. As someone who was very close to Mooji and the Sangha I can tell you that sahaja is actaully wiretapped to record and monitor phone calls and conversations on the land. Mooji has spies there and uses them to give him info on those visiting which he uses to pretend that he knows what they are thinking. His old security who spent years with him is terrified of him. I recently has a conversation with him and really felt bad for the guy. It seems Mooji really screwed up this guys life.There is definitely a cult around him. I left him with my dignity barely in tact but I am very greatful I was able to escape as many are still there and not so fortunate. I really feel bad for alot of the people I know there as they think he is some God. Little do they know he is tricking them and using there vulnerabilty as a means of entrance into their minds. something has to be done to stop him. There is a documentary on Netfilx about the osho scandal, oddly enough spme of those people who were with Osho are now with Mooji. Really fucking scary.
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AlesDostal 3 points 4 months ago*
There two interesting comments at Guru Rating - Mooji [gururating.org]:
BVRAA: I spent many years in Mooji’s ashram. It’s a clique where cruelty is passed off as “sharpness” and “tough love”. I am so very happy to be free of it.
BVRAA: And let me also say to anyone who is still there: It seems unimaginable to walk away from it. But when you do it is like being released from the prison. A prison of “nearly there. just one more satsang”. I wasted six years. I can’t imagine how it is for those who’ve spent their entire youth putting energy into making him a megastar.
Justanormalguy44 3 points 4 months ago
wowwwww omg that is exactly how I felt when i left there, I even had a dream that I was releasing something by walking away from Sahaja & Mooji. I would really like to speak with whomever posted this.
Justanormalguy44 4 points 4 months ago*
Omg I am almost at a lost for words reading this post I found, this is EXACTLY what they did to me. PLEASE READ...
Mooji allegedly engages in a variety of techniques: group euphoria & peer pressure, charisma-based bullying with supporting entourage, gaslighting and psychologically distressing people behind the scenes to induce breakdowns (known as breakthroughs there of course- “it’s ok to lie for guruji” one ex-member-in-training was told by the senior staff), deliberate double binds (e.g. accusing people of being “chameleons”, forcing them to try to be inhumanly consistent all the time (which no one is, but of course the recruit is anxious to please), whilst at the same time manipulating the situation, making it impossible for them to be so. All done by the devotees of course. Mooji acts all innocent, dropping the right phrases into satsang so you start popping. It’s kindalike zen, except it creates dependency, i.e it’s a bit rapey. When the recruit inevitably fails, they face the wrath of the entourage until they break down and become compliant. Meanwhile Mooji himself is free to be as inconsistent as he likes- even to the point of being a real teddybear on tv), public shaming and pressuring, the “advaita shuffle” (“yes, but who’s saying that”- worth a google). A whole lot of stuff. Allegedly.
Justanormalguy44 5 points 4 months ago
They got me to break down and cry. They were really nice to me in the beginning and then all of a sudden everyone starting to become hostile towards me. I really didnt understand why they all of a sudden started to act like I was a criminal. After I broke down and showed my vulnerability I started worshippng him like everyone else and then they were nice to me again. I then started to have doubts again and then they started back being mean to me. Wow I knew that something was up. I knew they were afraid that I had a strong mind and I was encouraging others there to leave which they did not like.
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dirtystack 1 point 4 months ago
I'm confused tho. This all seems like it happened years ago. What's going on wth Mooji that makes him so bad?? I get that they r editing some posts and comments, but that doesn't seem so awful in itself. What am I missing here??
peaceatmypace 2 points 4 months ago
There are some genuine posts on here. And then the rest of it is mooji's supporters making up ridiculous stuff so it all seems like nothing. One of those "strategies" that mooji always says you don't need :)
AlesDostal 1 point 1 month ago*
I think that Mooji’'s entire spiritual enterprise and satsang business are built on the lie of his enlightenment. Mooji is not an enlightened being and he is not a Self-realized teacher. In addition, this year 2018, Mooji and his crew will make a lot of money, for instance:
Intense Satsang Lisbon-February: €220 x1500 people = €300 000
Zmar Retreat-Portugal-April: €375 x 850 people = €318 000
Zmar Retreat-Portugal-October: €375 x 850 people = €318 000
Monte Sahaja Retreat-June: €550 x 120 people = €66 000
Netherlands Retreat-August: €330 x 1500 people = €495 000.
Added together, it will be about 1.5 mil. euros, the estimated expenses could be about 0.5 mil. (like rents,salaries and act.). Mooji and his spiritual enterprise will make about 1 mil.euros this year 2018 before tax and this figure is only minimal guess. Mooji’;s business long-term strategy will pay off because his followers, devotees, and spiritual seekers became paying customers. Mooji and his crew openly run spiritually recreation retreats or enterprise satsangs in Europe and make a big business of it. Mooji is only a regular guy who wants to be a famous spiritual teacher and wants to make some money..
Justanormalguy44 1 point 27 days ago
I came to that conclusion a while ago after hearing someone who worked at one of the retreats explain all of the money he made. His teacher explicitly warned against taking money of any kind. Its really quite a shame what he is doing. Didnt take me long to understand his con. He is a great actor to say the least.
Justanormalguy44 1 point 7 days ago
I found his company's financial records online, alot of loot they are making, he is quite the business man,
[beta.charitycommission.gov.uk]
Sahara71 1 point 2 days ago*
Thank you for posting this... I have just read the entire thread, including the archived comments that have been deleted elsewhere. It is especially concerning what has been written by Shankaromnivyah, about his friends ending up being psychotic and praying to photos of Mooji, and others of his friends ending up in mental institutions.
I have been looking into the dealings of Mooji for the last week or so. I have uncovered a lot of things... Mooji is not enlightened, he is an ordinary guy who exploits people- for power, monetary gain and sexual favors. He preys on vulnerable people...
Mooji's message is vague and confusing, which suits his aims very well. Listening to him speak, unfortunately, you basically hear whatever you want to hear. It's all just suggestive, kind of pleasant, quasi-spiritual fluff. There is no substance to it. If you try to understand it, you will be disappointed. His teachings leave you feeling empty and wanting more. You feel like you must be missing out on something, hence it draws you in. You are not even aware it is happening to you.
I'm sure he is using thought-reform techniques employed by cult-leaders and shonky gurus throughout the ages. He tries to break down your ego- your very identity, in order to make you empty-headed and compliant. Once you are compliant, he can use you to do his bidding.
People go over to his ashram in Portugal and they return as very changed, very odd people. It's brain-washing, my friends... pure and simple. Please read up on coersive persuasion, if you would like to know more. Anyone could be at risk from it, it doesn't matter how educated or intelligent you are. Then perhaps read the full list of comments at GuruRating.org - one place that doesn't delete anything negative about Mooji.
Yes, he is nice to people who first come to his ashram... of course he is! He is a consummate showman and makes people feel special. Once he has chosen his victims... those who show weakness or confusion, he draws them in and exploits them.
I shared my story here on Reddit and got verbally attacked for it- I was quite shocked by the vitriol that abounds around this group. Mooji supporters are extremely zealous.
I think we will probably witness another 'Jones Town' event in the near future.
Thank you.
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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: StartingOver
Date: March 31, 2018 07:25PM
I was a long time supporter of mooji and spent quite a bit of time at Sahaja. As someone who was very close to Mooji and the Sangha I can tell you that sahaja is actaully wiretapped to record and monitor phone calls and conversations on the land. Mooji has spies there and uses them to give him info on those visiting which he uses to pretend that he knows what they are thinking. His old security who spent years with him is terrified of him. I recently has a conversation with him and really felt bad for the guy. It seems Mooji really screwed up this guys life.There is definitely a cult around him. I left him with my dignity barely in tact but I am very greatful I was able to escape as many are still there and not so fortunate. I really feel bad for alot of the people I know there as they think he is some God. Little do they know he is tricking them and using there vulnerabilty as a means of entrance into their minds. something has to be done to stop him. There is a documentary on Netfilx about the osho scandal, oddly enough spme of those people who were with Osho are now with Mooji. Really fucking scary.
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August 1, 2017
Richter Von Root
“The true teaching happens beyond what the mind can grasp.”
How convenient!
“Any comments here can so only reflect a thought or opinion of mind activity”
Yes all contrary opinions do seem to be demonised under ‘mind.’ Careful not to think too much about anything!
“Mooji always points to the space in which everything is received including all mind activities”
He also points to 5 dollars for a small vile of Portuguese sand from his centre. It’s holy don’t you know!
“His presence and compassion can be felt and seen by everybody with an open heart and a clear mind”
Any basic cult book will tell you this is a classic double bind: Any criticism is due to your lack of ability to see the truth. Nonsense.
“What would be the purpose for mind control or abuse of somebody who is not anymore identified with that field.”
Yup! Agreed… therefore….. fake guru… and…… cult!
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June 25, 2018
Diana
I am sorry to hear your story I had the same experience, my partner went for 3 weeks but he never return. He left 4 month ago. He is brainwashed, he is lost there with all these people who are incredible selfish. Mooji is just another fake guru with a very good business.
They worshipping him as a God and he loved, he say he transcend his ego but you can see that not. He make of his teaching a good business charging a lot of money for his activities, he is now selling sand for sahaja.
I understood that some people need to go through these experiences to learn at the end that you don’t need anybody. But they are in some way escaping from reality, in an spiritual bypass. The way they see people out of their beliefs is that you are not evolve enough so you are not ready for freedom, so anything you say for them comes from ignorance that is way I decided to forget my ex partner an continue my life. I hope you can rescue her I know that in my case that is not possible. Good luck.