Background and origins of "The Great Silence" meditation?
Posted by:
corboy
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Date: December 28, 2016 10:07PM
Re: Background and origins of "The Great Silence" meditation?
Posted by:
liminal
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Date: December 28, 2016 11:53PM
[www.thegreatsilence.org] and related glossy websites look to be run by a different person, Rave' Mehta.
[www.thegreatsilencemeditation.com.au] is registered by Desmond Patrick O'Boyle, Reiki Empowerment Seminars [www.whois.net]
[www.thegreatsilencemeditation.com.au] is registered by Desmond Patrick O'Boyle, Reiki Empowerment Seminars [www.whois.net]
Re: Background and origins of "The Great Silence" meditation?
Posted by:
liminal
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Date: December 28, 2016 11:59PM
"The Great Silence" looks to have Theosophical and Rosicrucian origins. Those movements probably took the phrase from earlier teachings.
1890 [books.google.com]
2014 [books.google.com]
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He who steadfastly progresses towards the Great Solitude, the Great Silence, does not see in anything that helps him thither either dreariness or monotony.
1890 [books.google.com]
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there is the "Great Silence", where all the world seems to disappear
2014 [books.google.com]
Re: Background and origins of "The Great Silence" meditation?
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: December 29, 2016 02:58AM
[www.thegreatsilence.org]
If this "Great Silence" is billed as an experiment, participants
are subjects.
Who benefits?
BTW. here are the guidelines from the American Psychological Association (APA)
for protection of human subjects in experiments.
[www.google.com]
[www.apa.org]
Protection of subjects in experiments also includes ensuring
that personal information is kept confidential.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/29/2016 03:06AM by corboy.
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The Great Silence is a scientific platform with a strong scientific community and University partners to help develop research and experiments to measure the impact of our meditation, single focused group intention and group flow states on our health, the environment and world events.
If this "Great Silence" is billed as an experiment, participants
are subjects.
Who benefits?
BTW. here are the guidelines from the American Psychological Association (APA)
for protection of human subjects in experiments.
[www.google.com]
[www.apa.org]
Protection of subjects in experiments also includes ensuring
that personal information is kept confidential.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/29/2016 03:06AM by corboy.
Re: Background and origins of "The Great Silence" meditation?
Posted by:
liminal
()
Date: December 29, 2016 04:24AM
Rave' Mehta runs many websites including [risewithstandingrock.com] [www.thegreatsilence.org]
His websites are concerning because he does not clearly state who exactly runs each and where money collected actually goes.
His [risewithstandingrock.com] has confused people who want to support the Standing Rock movement. They donate to this and help spread this through social media, yet there is no clarity about where the funds actually go.
[www.linkedin.com]
Family business [mehtagroup.com]
Resume [www.rollins.edu]
This in his resume:
Plus this:
....... concerns me. As Corboy has posted, who benefits from these "experiments"? What of people's rights?
Rave' Mehta edited at least one of his father's books called the "Global Healing trilogy".
[www.amazon.com]
Vipin Mehta thanks J. Krishnamurti, Osho, and Jach Purcell ( [www.lazaris.com] ) in his acknowledgements.
His websites are concerning because he does not clearly state who exactly runs each and where money collected actually goes.
His [risewithstandingrock.com] has confused people who want to support the Standing Rock movement. They donate to this and help spread this through social media, yet there is no clarity about where the funds actually go.
[www.linkedin.com]
Family business [mehtagroup.com]
Resume [www.rollins.edu]
This in his resume:
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Mr. Mehta worked with the Department of Defense (DoD) in pioneering a system that integrated the Internet, artificial intelligence and virtual reality into a mass-deployable training solution for the Army that successfully used experiential based learning methods coupled with gaming technology to bring down training time and costs while driving higher retention rates.
Plus this:
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The Great Silence is a scientific platform with a strong scientific community and University partners to help develop research and experiments to measure the impact of our meditation, single focused group intention and group flow states on our health, the environment and world events.
....... concerns me. As Corboy has posted, who benefits from these "experiments"? What of people's rights?
Rave' Mehta edited at least one of his father's books called the "Global Healing trilogy".
[www.amazon.com]
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Vipin Mehta takes us on the sacred journey to awaken spirituality beyond organized religions so that we can consciously create global healing by using metaphysical tools. The journey shows how spirituality will lead humanity by raising the level of human consciousness from nationalism to globalism and from patriotism to humanism
Vipin Mehta thanks J. Krishnamurti, Osho, and Jach Purcell ( [www.lazaris.com] ) in his acknowledgements.
Re: Background and origins of "The Great Silence" meditation?
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: December 29, 2016 10:33PM
In the old days, to gain vast wealth one had to go all over the world and seek for deposits of oil, natural gas, minerals, precious metals, look for stands of valuable forests.
Or, one had to take the vast risk of securing loans and venture capital to support
creation of factories, then pay more to market the product and hope it would sell.
Not any more.
Today's entrepreneurs have a power that used to exist only in legends. Today, an ambitious person can create "gold mines."
How does one create a gold mine?
Generate a crowd. Where there are crowds, there's money to be made, and powerbrokering.
Once you create a crowd and tie it to regularly scheduled events you become a power broker. Doors open to you.
This is especially effective if the crowd (gold mine) is tied to an ideal.
Anyone who issues warnings is written off as being negative.
Nope.
Where there are crowds, there's money to be made.
Throughout history, tourist spots and pilgrimage sites have been
infamous for attracting opportunists.
To sign on for a meditation event is to be a pilgrim of sorts. You
bring hope, energy, idealism, and perhaps, heartache.
Enjoy the company and opportunity, but ensure that your inner parent
stays alert and protects your inner child.
The inner parent makes sure to prevent our soul, our child-self from
being exploited.
You are a unique human being. Do not behave in a way that
can be predicted by some businessman's algorithm/mathematical model.
Suppose you register for something, anything.
Demand to see confidentiality guidelines. Many ethical websites
state that our information will not be sold or released to someone else.
Insist that such safeguards be in place before you register for any sort
of mass event.
Or, one had to take the vast risk of securing loans and venture capital to support
creation of factories, then pay more to market the product and hope it would sell.
Not any more.
Today's entrepreneurs have a power that used to exist only in legends. Today, an ambitious person can create "gold mines."
How does one create a gold mine?
Generate a crowd. Where there are crowds, there's money to be made, and powerbrokering.
Once you create a crowd and tie it to regularly scheduled events you become a power broker. Doors open to you.
This is especially effective if the crowd (gold mine) is tied to an ideal.
Anyone who issues warnings is written off as being negative.
Nope.
Where there are crowds, there's money to be made.
Throughout history, tourist spots and pilgrimage sites have been
infamous for attracting opportunists.
To sign on for a meditation event is to be a pilgrim of sorts. You
bring hope, energy, idealism, and perhaps, heartache.
Enjoy the company and opportunity, but ensure that your inner parent
stays alert and protects your inner child.
The inner parent makes sure to prevent our soul, our child-self from
being exploited.
You are a unique human being. Do not behave in a way that
can be predicted by some businessman's algorithm/mathematical model.
Suppose you register for something, anything.
Demand to see confidentiality guidelines. Many ethical websites
state that our information will not be sold or released to someone else.
Insist that such safeguards be in place before you register for any sort
of mass event.
Re: Background and origins of "The Great Silence" meditation?
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: December 29, 2016 10:43PM
.
liminal wrote:
Krishnamurti would roll over in his grave.
Jiddu Krishnamurti stated that truth was a pathless land and that one
needed no teacher. The Theosphical Society trained him from boyhood to
become the next World Teacher. Instead, Krishnamurti rejected that
role, and all the wealth and social clout that went with it.
[www.google.com]
Osho/Rajneesh, however, would
giggle and rub his hands.
Osho/Rajneesh'es followers tried to turn a local election in their
favor by poisoning the salad bar at a local popular restaurant with Salmonella
bacteria, in hopes that if enough locals who disapproved of them got sick
and were unable to vote, the ashramites would get a majority vote
at an upcoming election.
This is still the largest act of bioterrorism in US history. So, OSHO
is not exactly a name that inspires confidence ---unless power and success
are all you care about, and care nothing for human dignity or the right of a human individual to disagree with you -- and remain healthy.
But...in the Hinduisms, there is no concept of inherent dignity for the human
individual. Human individual existence is regarded as illusion.
But if you gain power and wealth, no matter by what means, this indicates
you had some fortunate karma from earlier lifetimes. Power in the Hinduisms
is all that matters.
That is why Rajneesh/OSHO giggled all the time. It was, for him, all a game. Leela. No pity, no pathos.
[culteducation.com]
[culteducation.com]
Jesus is not on this list. Perhaps because one of the Jesus stories depicts
him kicking the money changers out of the temple and saying God's House must
never be a money market.
Find out about the social scene behind the advertising for any meditation event.
Meditation means opening oneself to the unknown, becoming vulnerable.
Any meditation event is tied to a social scene. Why? One needs a social scene to
create the advertising and registration forms that make it possible for us to learn about the meditation event.
You have one life, you are unique, you are meant to be more than just something
whose behavior can be predicted according to a businessman's mathematical model
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/30/2016 10:57PM by corboy.
liminal wrote:
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Vipin Mehta thanks J. Krishnamurti, Osho, and Jach Purcell ( [www.lazaris.com] ) in his acknowledgements.
Krishnamurti would roll over in his grave.
Jiddu Krishnamurti stated that truth was a pathless land and that one
needed no teacher. The Theosphical Society trained him from boyhood to
become the next World Teacher. Instead, Krishnamurti rejected that
role, and all the wealth and social clout that went with it.
[www.google.com]
Quote
“I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. ... The moment you follow someone you cease to follow Truth.”
Osho/Rajneesh, however, would
giggle and rub his hands.
Osho/Rajneesh'es followers tried to turn a local election in their
favor by poisoning the salad bar at a local popular restaurant with Salmonella
bacteria, in hopes that if enough locals who disapproved of them got sick
and were unable to vote, the ashramites would get a majority vote
at an upcoming election.
This is still the largest act of bioterrorism in US history. So, OSHO
is not exactly a name that inspires confidence ---unless power and success
are all you care about, and care nothing for human dignity or the right of a human individual to disagree with you -- and remain healthy.
But...in the Hinduisms, there is no concept of inherent dignity for the human
individual. Human individual existence is regarded as illusion.
But if you gain power and wealth, no matter by what means, this indicates
you had some fortunate karma from earlier lifetimes. Power in the Hinduisms
is all that matters.
That is why Rajneesh/OSHO giggled all the time. It was, for him, all a game. Leela. No pity, no pathos.
[culteducation.com]
[culteducation.com]
Jesus is not on this list. Perhaps because one of the Jesus stories depicts
him kicking the money changers out of the temple and saying God's House must
never be a money market.
Find out about the social scene behind the advertising for any meditation event.
Meditation means opening oneself to the unknown, becoming vulnerable.
Any meditation event is tied to a social scene. Why? One needs a social scene to
create the advertising and registration forms that make it possible for us to learn about the meditation event.
You have one life, you are unique, you are meant to be more than just something
whose behavior can be predicted according to a businessman's mathematical model
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/30/2016 10:57PM by corboy.
Re: Background and origins of "The Great Silence" meditation?
Posted by:
liminal
()
Date: December 30, 2016 09:36PM
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The Great Silence (TGS) is a 5 year global meditation series to take place 4x per year on equinoxes/solstices with a single focused collective intention curated for each event. TGS is also a scientific platform to measure the impact of meditation, single focused group intention and group flow states on our health, the environment and world events.
The first TGS will take place on Saturday, September 24, 2016 at 4pm PT / 7pm ET with over 100 cities meditating at the exact same time in celebration of the UN International Peace Week.
Global Partners: United Nations; Unify: BeThePeace; Uplift
Group Intention: Peace
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To learn more visit the links below:
www.facebook.com/greatsilencemeditation
www.thegreatsilence.org
www.peace.unify.org
www.facebook.com/greatsilencemeditation
Instagram: @greatsilencemeditation
Twitter / Periscope: @TGSmeditation
(from The Great Silence Facebook page [www.facebook.com] )
Why it is good to ask questions about 'experiments'
Posted by:
corboy
()
Date: December 31, 2016 02:24AM
About six years ago, someone on the message board asked about something
called Transition Town.
It referred to something called "The Great Unleashing"
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
The founder of Transition Town showed up.
Then, along came someone named Graham S who pointed out a few things
[forum.culteducation.com]
Things got a bit heated
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
Moral of the story?
Fact check, fact check and learn who is sponsoring feel good events.
Later in the discussion well informed participants reflected
on the risks of feel good projects getting tied to
political agendas. This was six years ago.
[forum.culteducation.com]
So, the moral of the story is, if someone is offering
an enticing mass movement of any sort, learn about their backgrounds and their business/political and financial alliances.
Your attention is valuable. Why do they want your attention, and why tie it to some sort of mass movement?
This is to create a social scene, a social environment. What is the agenda, and whose interests are being served?
Meditation is intimate stuff.
And again, where there are crowds, there is power and money.
To manufacture a crowd is to create a gold mine.
Get evidence that the crowd growers are people who believe, really
believe, in the inherent dignity of the ordinary, unenlightened
bloke in the street.
You want to be involved with a project created by those who respect you
as a person, not regard you as just another unit that's a playing
piece in a big game you know nothing of.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2016 02:44AM by corboy.
called Transition Town.
It referred to something called "The Great Unleashing"
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
The founder of Transition Town showed up.
Then, along came someone named Graham S who pointed out a few things
[forum.culteducation.com]
Things got a bit heated
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
[forum.culteducation.com]
Moral of the story?
Fact check, fact check and learn who is sponsoring feel good events.
Later in the discussion well informed participants reflected
on the risks of feel good projects getting tied to
political agendas. This was six years ago.
[forum.culteducation.com]
So, the moral of the story is, if someone is offering
an enticing mass movement of any sort, learn about their backgrounds and their business/political and financial alliances.
Your attention is valuable. Why do they want your attention, and why tie it to some sort of mass movement?
This is to create a social scene, a social environment. What is the agenda, and whose interests are being served?
Meditation is intimate stuff.
And again, where there are crowds, there is power and money.
To manufacture a crowd is to create a gold mine.
Get evidence that the crowd growers are people who believe, really
believe, in the inherent dignity of the ordinary, unenlightened
bloke in the street.
You want to be involved with a project created by those who respect you
as a person, not regard you as just another unit that's a playing
piece in a big game you know nothing of.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/31/2016 02:44AM by corboy.
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