Bhagwan Rajneesh Orgies
Posted by: SeekingTruth ()
Date: November 28, 2016 01:27PM

Fear Is The Master - the Bhagwan Rajneesh Tantra Cult

[www.youtube.com] (just less than 60 mins)

Background - there was a giant Tantra complex in Oregon in the early 1980's which became engulfed in scandal - the Rajneesh Ranch

The 1970's accounts of severe beatings in the commune in Poona in India are presumably true since we see 1980's beatings in the Oregon commune in the above documentary. There are accounts of mass orgies in the Indian commune in the 1970's of about 200 people at a time; all swapping partners several times during the sessions in an era with no HIV / Aids but numerous other STDs / STIs. And with little access to birth control, since this was in India, the inevitable resulted in thousands of children having no idea who their fathers were.

This 1 hour documentary re-hashes a lot of stuff about the commune in Oregon - but it also includes accounts of rapes / coerced sex, suicides, bogus marriages, financial wrong-doing, coerced sterilisation and abortion, under age sex (paedophilia), naked beatings, and big fights!

And the teachings from this cult still permeates the neo tantra scene in the UK, Europe, USA, Australia, and indeed the world. It is now a huge multi-media corporation operating under the Osho banner. But the exploitative and abusive communes still exist around the world including Pune (India), Humaniversity (Nederlands), Osholeela (Devon UK), etc., etc., etc.

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Re: Bhagwan Rajneesh Orgies
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: November 28, 2016 05:23PM

People active in discussing other human potential groups have mentioned
that the leaders had prior experience with Rajneesh in Pune before setting up
thier own franchises.

Put the name of your teacher into Google and put Rajneesh or Osho into the slot. See what comes up.

Search this message board too. Select all dates because CEI message board has been active for 14 years.

One example.

Michael Gottlieb (now deceased) -- 'The Ranch, aka Jacumba, aka Alliance for Desert Preservation)

[forum.culteducation.com]

The Osho/Rajneesh connection

[forum.culteducation.com]

[forum.culteducation.com]


Sociologists studying the club/rave scene in Ibiza report that Rajneesh/Osho
sanyassins have been quite involved there.

[forum.culteducation.com]



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Re: Bhagwan Rajneesh Orgies
Posted by: SeekingTruth ()
Date: November 29, 2016 05:34PM

Sadly the quality is very poor. However I see that there are many other documentaries about the Ranch on YouTube.

The many comments to these are from the usual bunch of misguided apologists who still revere the fraud as a god (small 'g').

BTW the naked group orgies sound like levels 7 / 8 of the Human Awareness Institute that used to be run in the UK. I only got to level 5 then saw the light that it was really a group sex cult.

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Re: Bhagwan Rajneesh Orgies
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: November 29, 2016 05:51PM

THere are two different discussions about the Human Awareness Institute (HAI) on this message board.

[forum.culteducation.com] (Thirty three pages long)

and

[forum.culteducation.com] (Six pages long)

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Re: Bhagwan Rajneesh Orgies
Posted by: Misstyk ()
Date: November 29, 2016 11:25PM

Is the Rajneesh cult tantric? Having group orgies doesn't necessarily mean tantric techniques are occurring. It was pretty clear from the film that that was not the case.

I found the film rather disturbing. How could anyone think that those groups sessions of various sorts were therapeutic? Why did people have to work 20 hrs./day? Was there some kind of group hypnosis going on? I can understand, in the case of young, naive, and idealistic people coming from an abusive background, falling in with something like that, but there were middle-aged professionals there, even a psychologist! And somehow (he's not sure how, apparently) the psychologist was moved to give away his home? Where did he think he would go after his stay at the Rajneesh community? Was he caught up in some kind of group enthusiasm, a rush of donating frenzy?

Some of it could be explained by the type of devotion that's encouraged, but that doesn't explain the newcomers, and highly educated and accomplished ones at that, who turn out to be so easily manipulated and gullible.

Is it just me, or can others see that R. is all about ego by simply looking at his face? He reminds me of Deepak Choprah; I've always thought he looked like a snake-in-the-grass, not trustworthy or kind at all. I wouldn't go near either of those people; they look like bad news simply by their facial features. I'd like to see more interviews and analysis by ex-followers like that psychologist.

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Re: Bhagwan Rajneesh Orgies
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: November 30, 2016 05:43AM

Utterly bizarre looking people have become venerated gurus.

[www.google.com]

[www.google.com]

Outside of kinky bondage scenarios or brutal interrogation set ups, being a guru is the only occupation in which you can make your disciples drink your foot bath water -- and they'll do so.

Andrew Cohen was mean as rattlesnake and made no attempt to hide that he was
mean. I went to one of his lectures and found the man chillingly terrifying. Danger radiated from him like vapor off of dry ice.

Yet his disciples showed no sign of being scared. In fact, Cohen slipped into the auditorium and stood to one side of the stage ten minutes before he was scheduled to appear.

The disciples were hungrily waiting, like dogs salivating outside a butcher shop.

Cohen was plainly visible to one side of the stage, yet none of the disciples noticed his presence. It was as though they had some sort of tunnel vision.

Perhaps there is some sort of trance effect in operation.



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Re: Bhagwan Rajneesh Orgies
Posted by: liminal ()
Date: January 06, 2017 07:01PM

Good series on the Rajneeshee commune [www.oregonlive.com]

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Editor's note: In a nearly unbelievable chapter of Oregon history, a guru from India gathered 2,000 followers to live on a remote eastern Oregon ranch. The dream collapsed 25 years ago amid attempted murders, criminal charges and deportations.

But the whole story was never made public. With first-ever access to government files, and some participants willing to talk for the first time, it's clear things were far worse than we realized.

Rajneesh put his own destructive spin on everything, including tantra. He was not an authentic source on anything other than on how to be a cult guru.

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Re: Bhagwan Rajneesh Orgies
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: January 07, 2017 06:41PM

Here is a clue to something collectible. Keep your eyes open.

Once had a long chat with a man who had had a series of job placements
as a first response specialist. He'd been given many patches from
people employed in various police and fire departments and had in turn
passed these on to others.

X claimed that a collector showed him a patch or badge identified a member of the guard for the Rajneeshi Antelope Valley facility.

If you possess or ever have a chance to obtain one of these, hang onto it, attach an ID label and keep it in a safe deposit box.

It is a unique bit of history.

(Glum)

Wonder what happened to the firearms that belonged to the Rajneeshi militia.

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Re: Bhagwan Rajneesh Orgies
Posted by: liminal ()
Date: January 08, 2017 05:46AM

About the guns:

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Weapons dealers across the country said the commune had bought at least 28 military-style semiautomatic weapons, including 13 Uzi carbines and 15 Galil assault rifles, since the fall of 1984. It also acquired at least one Remington Model 700 bolt-action rifle with a telescope sight.

Individual Rajneeshees bought at least 16 other weapons, though it wasn’t clear where they went or who eventually controlled them. The list included two more Uzi carbines, four Springfield M1A1 assault rifles, which are copies of the Colt AR-15, and six .357 Magnums.

[www.oregonlive.com]

I visited Rajneeshpuram in Oregon before it folded. Rajneesh on stage had two public guards with him, displaying weapons. I really should have walked out of the building as soon as I saw the weapons.

I am very fortunate. My sannyasin time was limited.

Because the experience was so stressful (little did I know the full extent of what was happening there), my memory of it still has a nightmare dream type quality. I do recall feeling sickened by Rajneesh's words. Sitting with so many people, all of us trancing out, while Rajneesh did a monotone rant, and while heavily armed guards patrolled .... I'm glad we survived. Things could have gone bad really fast.

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