by the way, the Stever Robbins connection to Byron Katie cannot be overstated.
Anyone trained in NLP instantly sees what Byron Katie is doing on a metalevel to people, with language and images and stories.
(its NOT about the BK worksheets, which are really just a distraction, that is lesson one. She just put that stuff in there to occupy people's conscious minds, that is a very common technique. Its shocking how some people seem to be so literal minded and refuse to look up from their worksheet at the elephant dancing on their head. The first lesson is that its not what they are SAYING they are doing, its what they are DOING to you, which they are NOT saying. Very basic stuff, to those in the field. Its not always used for evil, it can be used in a helpful way, if done ethically).
Its all the meta-level programming and processing that Byron Katie is doing, people trained in that see it right away.
But those in the New Agey type field, appear to have no experience in that meta-level processing, so it them its invisible at first, so they need to do some homework, and do some research, and crack open a few books.
Stever Robbins has been around the NLP field for a very long time, 30 years. He does not appear to have originated anything, just one of the salesmen type guys on the fringes, but he does know everyone in the field, and he does know a lot about NLP. He teaches NLP for money.
Stever Robbins - NLP Trainer
So guess who Byron Katie learned a lot of her NLP patterns from?
Below is a taste from Stever Robbins himself. Remember, everyone one of these guys goes beyond the words on the page, or what is being said. These are very intelligent and quick-minded people at the top end of this field.
(for example, this article is based on old-school NLP, but its real purpose is to confuse you and make you think Stever Robbins is a real brainiac so that is why he costs so much to hire for private NLP consulting).
But now instead of trying to show people how intelligent they are to impress them, people like Byron Katie do the opposite, and pretend to be Idiot Savants who learned advanced NLP and Erickonsian hypnosis, and about 50 other things from a cockroach.
NLP: Model, modeling tool, or both?
When Bandler, Grinder, Dilts, etc. first formalized NLP, they certainly did it using the terminology of mathematical models, particularly calculus.(1).
The early NLP literature (Structure of Magic, NLP Vol I) talks about “4-tuples” (or 5-tuples, if you go back far enough), and “operations” that can be done to 4-tuples.
This was an early attempt to make NLP a calculus. Math-phobics, suspend that phobia. We aren’t talking mathematical calculus, but a general calculus. That just means they defined distinctions to pay attention to, operations on those distinctions, and rules telling how they all went together and what produced what results.
In Math, distinctions called “numbers” include 4, 5, and 9. Our operators include something called “addition.” The rules of math say when you combine 4 and 5 using addition, you get 9.
In NLP, we have distinctions called “4-tuples” with a specific set of internal/external sight, sound, small, taste, etc. We have an operators, “set anchor” and “fire archor.” Given two different 4-tuples, we can anchor both. When we combine them using the operator “fire off anchors,” we get a new 4-tuple with elements of the original two.
So NLP, itself, is a model. It has distinctions like 4-tuples, physiological state, internal images, auditory voices, submodalities, the unconscious mind, etc. It has operators like anchoring, shifting submodalities, etc. It also has rules for how those combine: if someone has Friends coded in one set of submodalities and Acquaintances in another, they can make an Acquaintance a friend by shifting the set of submodalities....
(cont'd on website)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/24/2008 02:19PM by The Anticult.