My 2 cents on this, is I don't see any major evidence that victims of various cults and LGAT's, on this forum at least, are merely pointing the finger at gurus, and avoiding personal responsibility.
If anything, it seems to me too many people over-guilt themselves for getting conned initially, when they had not yet learned how it all worked.
For example, personally, I have always been able to see through old-school cults like Siddha Yoga in literally minutes. I was personally recruited for Sai Baba, and TM years ago, (and others) and before I knew any of this stuff, I could see it was a basic con-job. Sai Baba with his bad amateur magic tricks and cash demands, and the TM recruiter lying he could levitate, etc. Laughable.
Same with Scientology, which I personally infiltrated a bit "for fun" years ago to try and figure out how cults worked.
But my view is each person has their own weakness and blind spots. So just because my weakness is not for men in saffron robes who don't wear underwear, doesn't mean I attack people who might fall for it. Maybe another person's weakness is a guy in a fancy suit with a Rolex, while others see he is a con in seconds.
I would be interested if anyone can point to anywhere in these threads, or in this forum, where personal responsibility is being avoided, in the way Stuart Resnick implied. It appears he was imagining something that does not exist.
I get the sense that basically everyone I have ever seen making the effort to post analysis at this forum is well aware of their own personal vulnerabilities...
So I agree 100% that each person need to be honest with themselves about their own personal human fallibilities. (need to belong, fear of assertiveness, vanity, greed, love-starved, etc).
But I see personal responsibility as being self-evident.
But the bad Gurus twist that, like Byron Katie does, so she is blameless.
I have yet to see any of the main Byron Katie supporters EVER seriously criticize Byron Katie, or admit some of her blatant bald-faced lies. They just won't do it, as she rigged a self-blame Turnaround in their minds. It is diabolical.
I am personally interested in Byron Katie as she is not at all obvious to the untrained eye, and is not being examined by others properly, yet. Everyone knows Sai Baba is a crook.
But Byron Katie seems to be able to easily dupe the New Age crowd, and also this "nondualist" movement as well. They focus on her "beliefs", but seem to be blind to her techniques. They don't know her nondualist belief content is just a tool for her meta-process. That is very common in the old NLP world, where she learned some of her stuff, probably from Stever Robbins and others.
Byron Katie is one of the New Gurus, or even the New New Gurus. The icing on the cake is she "plays dumb" and pretends to be a "savant". The old NLP guys would kill themselves laughing at her schtick, until they saw what she was doing to regular folks with those powerful techniques developed in the 1980's, when she started to learn them.
The fact that Byron Katie can get away with her "instant enlightenment cockroach story" literally boggles my mind. Its almost like a parody of how far you can push it, and get away with it.
But I do see those who are speaking out here as empowering themselves, and accepting appropriate responsibility, and that makes certain it won't happen again. For the life of me, I can't think of anyone on this forum who doesn't do that!
The one I see doing it, is that maniac Byron Katie! She is one step away from those old-school Gurus who blame their acolytes doubts for causing their physical sicknesses! That used to be very popular with the gurus..."its your doubts of me that are making me ill...woh is me...as they fake an illness". They always seem to get sick when they get busted too..."your doubts gave me the cancer".
Stuart, dare I say it, may have something of a point. In the recovery process it can be helpful to take an honest look at what drew you to the cult in the first place. In my case it served a good purpose in finding a way of being taken care of without working too hard, and to avoid making tough decisions.
This, of course, in no way gets the mind-controlling, power-hungry perps off.