anatta:
Obviously, its up to the moderator of this forum to decide what is appropriate to post or not post.
But the internet and blogs, are full of all sorts of promotion, advertising, marketing, and shilling for Byron Katie. There is nothing new in any of that for anyone reading a thread like this, which is not about advertising for a large for-profit private seminar company, but about critical thinking and looking at the facts and evidence.
And also making the most accurate judgements one can make, which is not always simple to do, as so much is HIDDEN in secrecy.
Here is some good information from someone named Janaki. [
janakisstory.wordpress.com]
There is no question, there are many people who are True Believers of Byron Katie, who refuse to consider any of the dozens and hundreds of facts brought forward. Every sect is like that, it has its core group of believers, who are never swayed even by the worst acts committed by a Guru. As a matter of fact, it seems sometimes the worse it gets, the more the core group gets entrenched around their Guru?
There is no reason to fill up a thread like this, with more promotion of Byron Katie. Why not instead address the serious questions being asked...
Like the DAMAGE occuring to people at the 9 day seminars, the sales techniques, the people being called "Staff" and working for free, and the rest of it.
Why is everyone signed up to non-disclosure contacts?
What about the dozens of lies which have been exposed?
People in this thread could collate dozens and even hundreds of problems.
You say you "10 to 15,000 hours meditating". Is that TM, Transcendental Meditation?
Lost of people also try to promote TM as well, and that is a very damaging cult.
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www.suggestibility.org]
In a way, BK and TM have a very similar sales structure, the TM "20 minute meditation" is also a bait-and-switch, just like the The Work.
So you are NOT saying you achieved Enlightenment by a magical cockroach? Byron Katie says she never did anything, and it happened by magic. She says she's a Walk-In Spirit. (of course she gets others to say it, in her books).
That is obviously just the same Story told by Werner Erhard, and many other Enlightenment salesmen for many decades.
But as far as the message of the Mystics, that is clearly a device being used by Byron Katie. Anyone can claim they have achieved Enlightenment, and if you pay them, they will show you how too.
Its a business to make money, and get adulation from throngs of followers.
And you say that Byron Katie claims are testable and falsifiable by science?
They actually are NOT.
First off, its all ANECDOTES, which is not science, that is called Testimonial advertising.
And also, Byron Katie herself, and her company completely REFUTE all their own claims in their disclaimers.
THE SCHOOL FOR THE WORK WITH BYRON KATIE - RELEASE OF LIABILITY [
forum.culteducation.com]
That is the loophole all these groups use, the advertising and the disclaimers are from different planets. Forget the advertising, listen to the disclaimers.
So instead of more promotion and shilling for Byron Katie, its more useful to look at the specific techniques she is using on people.
Start with any technique, from the Sales techniques, to the Storytelling persuasion techniques, to the LGAT seminar techniques, to the tricky contracts techniques, there are dozens and even hundreds of them.
Byron Katie is not an enlightened human. Anyone can play-act, and say they are, and many do. Its a business that generates massive amounts of cash, with little overhead. All you need is the gift of the gab, and charisma, and world-class group persuasion techniques.
She is a highly skilled salesperson.