I don't "love" that fact that the Byron Katie language patterns, like "I love that ____" is creeping into this forum.
I also don't love that some absolutely dangerous "advice" about dealing with trauma and PTSD is being bandied about. But welcome to the world of Byron Katie.
The so-called "advice" from Byron Katie about dealing with trauma and PTSD is one of the worst possible things a person can do. That is a fact.
These things have been studied and written about by experts in this field. For example, see Trauma and Recovery by Dr. Judith Herman. [
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There is a large literature by professionals dealing with PTSD and Trauma, and Byron Katie knows nothing about it, and is a complete ignormamous, who's so-called advice is extremely dangerous.
Simply trying to "blank out" the trauma is something human beings do automatically with trauma as a survival mechanism. But it does nothing to deal with the after-effects. That is what can lead to PTSD.
As quoted in this thread, some forms of trauma have suicide attempt rates of up to 70%.
Byron Katie (the Work) and PTSD suicide attempt rates [
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Why the hell do you think that Byron Katie puts those "death" disclaimers in her contracts you are forced to sign?
THE SCHOOL FOR THE WORK WITH BYRON KATIE - RELEASE OF LIABILITY [
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QUOTE: "I acknowledge that I am voluntarily assuming all risks associated with my participation at The School and voluntarily agree to accept any and all risks of injury or death..."
Get it? DEATH. That is not put in there for fun.
And these other so-called trauma methods of "shaking" are just extreme flooding without any support, and that can lead to death by suicide, as once the pain starts, sometimes it will not stop, when the person goes home from the seminar. (if this happens, please call 911 and go to Emergency).
What is the real horror about this, is the the so-called Facilitators are being told verbally and in person that The Work can deal with trauma and PTSD, when in writing, they are told the EXACT OPPOSITE that it absolutely cannot deal with anything psychological. Its just a loophole they are exploiting.
They target people with PTSD and trauma as these folks are DESPERATE and need help, and will pay almost anything to try and get relief.
What are these so-called Facilitators going to do when they have suicides on their hands?
Its a lethal mix of ignorance and arrogance. The arrogance that makes them think they can deal with trauma and PTSD seems to come from their ignorance of what they are dealing with.
Even many registered psychologists and pro's won't deal with these issues, but instead will work with the person to set-up referrals to trained experts in the area.
People need 24/7 support, and the highly trained people to help them.
Where is this nightmare of trauma and PTSD going to end?
Read their own contracts.
If you die, tough shit, that ain't their problem.
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THE SCHOOL FOR THE WORK WITH BYRON KATIE - RELEASE OF LIABILITY
QUOTES:
" I agree to completely assume the risk and responsibility for any injuries or damages suffered by me arising out of my participation in The School"
"I represent that either I will maintain my own medical insurance policy or that I will bear all costs and expenses associated with any illness or injury which I may sustain during my participation at The School"
"I acknowledge that I am voluntarily assuming all risks associated with my participation at The School and voluntarily agree to accept any and all risks of injury or death"
"I hereby also agree that I and any all other legal representatives of mine, including my assignees and heirs, will not make a claim against or sue BKI Inc., the Facilities, or their respective representatives, directors, officers, and employees for any injury or damage resulting or arising, directly or indirectly, from my participation at The School."
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And the so-called Facilitators are really going to pay the price as well, as when people get hurt by their own malpractice, guess who is going to be held responsible?
Please, do not listen to this nonsense being peddled that Byron Katie's methods can deal with trauma or PTSD. Even though these days they say opposite things verbally to what they put in their contracts.
The studied and proven methods for dealing with trauma and PTSD have nothing to do with this dangerous and lethal quackery. People could lose their lives following that type of dangerous "advice".
Ignorance and arrogance can be a lethal combination.
It madness.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/09/2009 03:16AM by The Anticult.