My point is... if any people have concerns about The Work and also happen to be intrigued by Steven's "Quantum Wealth", they may wish to know that "The Work and IKH make up a significant part of Quantum Wealth."Quote
Last on the list, but first in my heart are "The Work" and Integrated Kabbalistic Healing. Of all the transformative things I've done that affected my life, these are the only two that demonstrably changed it. The Work and IKH make up a significant part of Quantum Wealth. I like to say that The Work lets the mind rest in the heart, and IKH lets the heart rest in the soul. I'm incredibly grateful and blessed to have met Jason Shulman and Byron Katie, and to be doing Integrated Kabbalistic Healing and The Work.
I agree that the woman does not sound fine. Of course she is an adult... I just wonder about the state of a person's self-esteem when they try to "work" away upsetting thoughts which imo SHOULD BE upsetting. One could end up putting up with unacceptable behavior if they don't adequately process upsets in a relationship. I can't imagine staying married to a "husband" who is out of contact for several days without a word. That would not be okay with me.Quote
Helpme - I just read that blog you linked to above (Kabbalistic Marriage). The whole thing actually seems to be a pretty good example of all the things these 'turnarounds' do to people as has been described on this thread.
The writer describes the intense & painful thought process she went through when the man she felt 'so married to' suddenly stops comunicating with her for a period of time. Apparently there was no expectation of honest communication in a committed relationship (in other words, how come this guy, her 'spiritual husband' didn't let her know what the heck was going on with him!) Instead there is a LOT of confusion and self-blame going on in this blog post.
The blogger says:
"Friends and relatives are all worried about me, concerned, asking if I’m okay.
Good grief, Charlie Brown. I’m fine!"
Then goes on to describe all the ways she is obviously not fine! It was kind of sad to read, but it does enlighten about the way these techniques affected this particular woman's mind at the time.
I have met people who use The Work to shame themselves with the turnarounds.
I have met people who use The Work to make right what isn’t.
[[url=http://janakisstory.wordpress.com/chapter-36/]Downsides of The Work[/url]]Quote
I know people who made the conscious decision to stop doing The Work and who felt greatly relieved. One particular person I am referring to here was doing The Work all day long, to get out of her anxiety. She said that she found a therapist who claims that he is treating a lot of people whom he has advised to stop doing The Work because it doesn’t seem to help them and it increases their sense of shame and guilt.
Yeah, that's really something. I actually read her book last year. I didn't like it much. Frankly I've read far more compelling stories of cult involvement on this message board and on people's blogs than what I read in that book.Quote
Am I the last person to know that Sashen's wife, Lena Phoenix, is the author of the book The Heart of a Cult? It's a novel that's based on her personal experiences in at least one cult.
I had a real WTF?!? moment whan I discovered that. I wonder if she posts here?
Link to site:
[[url=http://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?3,60497]Message board has passed 50,000 posts[/url]]Quote
The Ross Institute message board has now passed 50,000 posts.
Not bad considering the ongoing threats of lawsuits, a failed lawsuit filed by Landmark Education and the seemingly endless DDOS attacks for over a year perpetrated by Searcy, Arkansas resident and crank Bruce Raisley ( see [www.culteducation.com] ) through his former "botnet" of "zombie computers," principally located in Eastern Europe.
With help from dedicated attorneys such as Peter Skolnik and Michael Norwick at Lowenstein Sandler, Douglas Brooks, Robert Rivas, Thomas Gleason, and both Harvard University's Berkman Center and Public Citizen of Washington DC as helpful resources, the Ross Institute has survived every legal challenge posed by a list of would-be Internet censors, which attempted to dictate its content.
And with the help of Croatian Internet security experts, a dedicated system administrator and ISP in Sweden, the good work of the FBI and US District Attorney in Newark NJ, this message board survived and stopped Mr. Raisley's onslaught of DDOS attacks.
Though "trolls" have come and go and no doubt will continue to be an ongoing nuisance, earnest participants here have shown again and again a willingness to endure them and move on in an effort to benefit others.
It's been a great six years and counting since this board was launched.
Thanks everyone for sharing to make this board a meaningful resource for research, so that others can benefit from your knowledge and experience.
I am exceedingly grateful that this Cult Education Forum exists. Thank you, Rick Ross.Quote
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I found that deeply disturbing to read. Whew.Quote
Some other disturbing aspects from the blog linked by helpme above:
The writer talks about a blog post titled 'Grateful for Incest'. This title disturbed so many readers that she had to change it. In fact, she describes herself very bluntly as an incest survivor. Being 'grateful for incest' is something that Byron Katie encourages in incest victims by the process of 'turning around' and blaming themselves for what happened to them as children.
Doing these turnarounds can obviously create blurred sexual boundaries. There is an inability to see when personal boundaries are being crossed inappropriately, such as when they involve an imbalance or abuse of power.
Later in the blog:
"I told [a friend] that I don’t care how [my Guru] handles his power. That’s his life. I cannot even get upset at the allegations of other gurus having sex with their devotees or at Rajneesh/Osho’s fleet of Rolls Royces. Who cares???"
Doms, Gurus and Multiple Surrenders
This is a real-life example of what happens to the thought process when influenced by Byron Katie.
[[url=http://annojohnson.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/churches-cults-and-spirituality/]Ann's Tale - Community, Churches, Cults and Spirituality[/url]]Quote
We talked about how cults try to be the authority in our lives, denying us our inner knowing. There are checklists on the web that help one identify the characteristics of a cult. Not surprisingly, many of them apply to fundamentalist Christian churches.
For example, see: [www.culteducation.com]