CULTURAL SEXUAL ABUSE OF BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: SeekingTruth ()
Date: June 20, 2010 12:21AM

SEXUAL ABUSE OF BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN

The ISLAMIC Quoran / Koran prohibits male with male sexual activity. Indeed boys / teens / men are murdered / stoned to death / pushed half dead over a cliff / hanged for any perceived or remote inclination towards being gay.

YET MANY TRIBAL AND GOVERNMENTAL LEADERS IN AFGHANISTAN INCLUDING THE POLICE ARE INVOLVED IN PAEDOPHILLIA AKA THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF YOUNG BOYS.

THIS IS THE CORRUPT CULTURE THAT AMERICAN AND BRITISH ARMED FORCES ARE DAILY LOSING THEIR LIVES TO PROTECT.

Bacha Bazi Documentary Uncovers Horrific Sexual Abuse of Afghan Boys

"Bacha bazi," or "boy play" is a disturbing practice that entangles Afghanistan's most vulnerable boys -- recruited from the streets or sold to "masters" by their poor families -- in a world of violence and sex.

In a recently released Clover Films documentary, "The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan", see [www.pbs.org] , a reporter and his crew expose the world of bacha bazi. They told one man, Dastager, who keeps a "stable" of boys, a fabricated story about them comparing bacha bazi with a similar practice in Europe. Dastager and his cohorts completely opened up to the reporter and gave an intimate and disturing look into Afghanistan's bacha bazi culture.

Stop the disturbing Bacha Bazi practice now!

[www.care2.com]

These "dancing boys" are young. Dastager bought one boy, Shafik (though his name was changed), from a destitute family in the countryside. The boy looks no older than nine.

The boys are kept by wealthy, powerful men who train them to sing, dance and play instruments -- skills they'll use to entertain parties made up of all men. The men force the boys to they wear women's clothes and jangling bells. Many times these parties are small and secret, but cameras recorded a bacha bazi circle taking place as part of a wedding celebration, with hundreds of guests.

When the dancing concludes, the boy is then sold to the highest bidder, or shared among the most powerful men for sex.

The bacha bazi culture is filled with expolitation, violence, rape and even murder, if a boy crosses his master or tries to escape the bacha bazi world. These children are puppets for their masters -- they're called names, abused and passed around to their master's friends. The documentary crew caught one particularly disturbing conversation between men who, when they don't know the camera is recording, recount a night when a dancing boy laid in a van while the men took turns having sex with him. The men gleefully recalled how "beautiful" the boy was.

Bacha bazi is a world where children are sex objects, and it's a world where, often, the only escape is death.

The attendees of these parties and the masters of these boys are some of society's most powerful men, from merchants to warlords. A United Nations report on bacha bazi found many are members of the government. Police told the documentary reporter that people who participate in bacha bazi will be punished no matter how powerful they are. But later, camera's find that same policeman at a bacha bazi party himself. Especially disturbing is the fact that the Chief of the Youth Crime Department was there, as well.

Buying and selling children, and sex acts with children, are illegal, but because such powerful people participate in bacha bazi, it's extremely difficult to enforce the laws. After the documentary exposing the world of the dancing boys was released, some of the men featured in it were arrested. But soon after, they were back on the streets and practicing bacha bazi again.

The story of bacha bazi is tragic and the situation may seem hopeless, but these boys need our help too much to give up. They're trapped in bacha bazi's web and more people need to speak up against this cruel and exploitative practice. Sign our Care2 petition and tell the UN envoy to Afghanistan, Staffan de Mistura, to encourage President Karzai to enforce laws against bacha bazi and end the practice once and for all.

[www.youtube.com]

ST

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Re: CULTURAL SEXUAL ABUSE OF BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: dsm ()
Date: June 20, 2010 01:05AM

Is this "petition" at the Care2Connect community? How is this collection of names of the people who support the war and object to gay male sex going to put an end to it? the Care2connect "make a difference" community is one of the internet's most notorious pro-homosexual leftwing communities. It is cult central. It is a haven for paedophiles.

Those online petitions are meaningless. The only thing they do is identify people to the ones who set up the so-called petition.

In the USA and in most democracies, a "petition" is a legal document that must be signed by registered voters in the jurisdiction in which the petition is to have effect. Convincing people that providing their name to an online activist "community" is going to "make a difference" is very deceptive.

I think that everyone in any anti-cult site that is really identifying and having an effect on cults should be aware of how easy it is to take a horrific documentary from pbs and exploit the outrage for the purpose of providing the leftwint cults with the names of those who are sufficiently informed to want to do something about the horrific activity.

Gay cults do this kind of thing all the time. NAMBLA, for example.

If anyone wants to do something to encourage our goverment to address that problem in Afghanistan then what they need to do is circulate a GENUINE petition in their congressional district asking their representative to file a resolution or bill or something like that with a specific request in it, that would get the job done.

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Re: CULTURAL SEXUAL ABUSE OF BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: SeekingTruth ()
Date: June 20, 2010 01:14AM

Please create a genuine petition then, preferably online. ST.

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Re: CULTURAL SEXUAL ABUSE OF BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: SeekingTruth ()
Date: June 20, 2010 01:24AM

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dsm
Is this "petition" at the Care2Connect community? activity.

No - it is Care2.com This is not a gay community as you could have easily found out.

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dsm
Gay cults do this kind of thing all the time.

It is not a 'gay cult' - period.

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dsm
NAMBLA, for example.

You equate 'gay' with 'boy love' as promoted by NAMBLA - this is not valid.

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dsm
If anyone wants to do something to encourage our goverment to address that problem in Afghanistan then what they need to do is circulate a GENUINE petition in their congressional district asking their representative to file a resolution or bill or something like that with a specific request in it, that would get the job done.

Create one then. In fact create lots - worldwide - comensurate with the disgust that is starting to spread as information gets diseminated - thanks to Care2 for alerting many in the first place.

ST



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/20/2010 01:28AM by SeekingTruth.

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Re: CULTURAL SEXUAL ABUSE OF BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: dsm ()
Date: June 20, 2010 01:25AM

There is no such thing as genuine petitions online. They are legal instruments. They have to be circulated to registered voters. We ended the war in Viet Nam with genuine petitions. We passed the ERA in many states with genuine petitions.

You need to compose a paragraph stating the action you want your goverment to take, and then register the petition according to the locality. For example, you can petition your city council to pass a resolution professing support for your cause. If it passes, it gets in the news and you can expand it to your state legislature in another petition and to the federal level via your congressional district in another petition. This is a lot of work but it has real effect, because first of all it requires that you have a genuine proposal and not just an expression of outrage and secondly it compells the government to address the issue.

[www.snopes.com]

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Re: CULTURAL SEXUAL ABUSE OF BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: SeekingTruth ()
Date: June 20, 2010 01:29AM

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dsm
There is no such thing as genuine petitions online.

They have them in the UK.

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Re: CULTURAL SEXUAL ABUSE OF BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: Sparky ()
Date: June 20, 2010 03:12AM

I've known many moslems. Some were my friends at school (these comments are about Iranian (shitite) and Egyptian and palestinian (sunni) NOT afghani so maybe that is the difference).

With them all, they did not consider it homosexual behavior of they were in the "dominant" position. They only considered it against the Koran and punishable if it was in the "submissive" position. This doesn't surprise me any with the rampant gay rapes in Afghanistan.

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Re: CULTURAL SEXUAL ABUSE OF BOYS IN AFGHANISTAN
Posted by: SeekingTruth ()
Date: June 20, 2010 05:18AM

Sex abuse and silence exposed

DND brass told of rape of boys by Afghan allies

By David Pugliese, The Ottawa Citizen September 21, 2009

[www.ottawacitizen.com]

OTTAWA — Army staff and National Defence headquarters officials were told in 2007 that young boys had allegedly been sexually abused by Afghan security forces at a Canadian base in Afghanistan, but the concern at the time was that the incident might be reported in the news media, according to military records obtained by the Citizen.

In addition, last year Brig.-Gen. J.C. Collin, commander of Land Force Central Area, passed on to the senior army leadership the concerns raised by military police who said they had been told by their commanders not to interfere in incidents in which Afghan forces were having sex with children.

The newly released records raise questions about a military investigation that earlier this year concluded that allegations about sexual abuse of Afghan children by members of the Afghan army and police were unfounded. The Canadian Forces National Investigation Service also stated that its thorough investigation concluded allegations of such incidents were never reported to Canadian military commanders.

The allegations first surfaced publicly in June 2008 after concerns about the incidents, originally raised by soldiers and military chaplains, were reported in the news media.

Former Cpl. Travis Schouten told military officials he had witnessed an Afghan boy being sodomized by two Afghan security personnel at Canada’s Forward Operating Base Wilson in Afghanistan in 2006. Another soldier also came forward to a Toronto newspaper to report a similar occurrence at the same base in 2006. A military chaplain talked about the abuse in a report sent up the chain of command at Canadian Forces Base Petawawa. Two other chaplains have also come forward to state that soldiers came to them upset about such abuses.

The issue is sensitive for the Canadian Forces and the federal government as the Afghanistan mission has been promoted to the public as being about protecting Afghan civilians. The Afghan National Army and police are seen as key to Canada’s military withdrawal from that country in 2011.

It is the position of the Canadian Forces that its troops have no jurisdiction over the activities of Afghan military and police personnel, even those operating on Canadian bases.

The military records obtained by the Citizen through the Access to Information law note that a 90-minute meeting was held between an army public affairs staff member and a member of army commander Lt.-Gen. Andrew Leslie’s executive staff in the summer/fall of 2007. According to the June 2008 e-mail written by Lt.-Col. Stephane Grenier, an adviser on operational stress injuries, the meeting focused on various controversies that might be brought out in the news media, including, “ANP/ANA members having anal sex with young boys.”

ANP stands for Afghan National Police while ANA refers to Afghan National Army.

A second meeting about Afghan police and soldiers having sex with children was held later that week at National Defence headquarters involving senior members of the Defence Department’s civilian and military public affairs staff, according to the e-mail.

In addition, on June 18, 2008, Brig.-Gen. J.C. Collin, commander of Land Force Central Area, passed on to Leslie’s staff and Brig.-Gen. Ian Poulter the concerns raised by several military police officers. Collin called the e-mail from the military police commander, “rather disconcerting.”

Included were details from military police who noted it was well known among Canadian troops that ANA and ANP personnel had sex with kids. Another was upset that military police were told not to intervene in such matters, according to the e-mail.

“At this late date I cannot specifically remember who delivered the said briefings however I can say that it was delivered in Gagetown and that it sparked considerable debate amongst the MP pers(onnel),” noted one police officer in an e-mail Collin forwarded to the army’s senior staff. The e-mail had been written by Maj. V.R. Ethier, the commander of 2 MP Unit, the army military police unit of Ontario.

“Of greatest concern to the MP members was the belief that if they were (to) intervene in any instances of this nature that they would not be supported by the C o C,” the e-mail added. C o C is a military term for chain of command.

Having sex with children is against the law in Afghanistan, but some military officers have argued that since it is practised by some Afghans, particularly in Kandahar, then the Canadian Forces should not get involved in what should be seen as a “cultural” issue.

Maj. Francis Bolduc, deputy commanding officer of the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service, said his organization’s examination of the issue found no evidence to support the sexual abuse allegations.

He said a thorough review of military police records showed no complaints were made about the issue and “all the allegations were unfounded.” Bolduc noted that the investigation found the sexual abuse concerns were never reported to commanders.

Asked about the e-mails from Lt.-Col. Grenier and military police commander Maj. V.R. Ethier, he replied: “This is outside our lane.”

Bolduc said those issues could be looked at by a board of inquiry into the issue that had been ordered by Lt.-Gen. Leslie.

Last June, Defence Minister Peter MacKay told the House of Commons that troops would not turn a blind eye to the abuse of children. “Let us be clear, in no way, shape or form have Canadian soldiers and certainly the Canadian government ever condoned or excused allegations of sexual abuse against children in this country or anywhere else,” he said.

Another incident recounted in the Ethier e-mail detailed how a complaint was made about the sexual abuse of children to his chain of command in 2005-2006 in Kandahar and after that an Afghanistan commander dealt with the situation.

In addition, Brig.-Gen. Poulter received an e-mail on June 17, 2008 indicating that the sexual abuse issue had been raised by a Canadian colonel, a veteran of the war, during a military training session about Afghan culture. “He emphasized that it is not a practice that Afghan men discuss or practise in an open manner … one of those things that Afghans know happens but nobody talks about,” noted the e-mail to Poulter.

In addition, it appears senior Canadian commanders were also concerned about the abuse. In a June 13, 2008, letter to army commander Leslie, the office of Lt.-Gen. Michel Gauthier asked that an investigation be started into the sexual assault allegations. “Furthermore, initial queries suggest there appeared to be some concern of the part of the Roto 2 BG chain of command with respect to certain off-duty activities related to the same incidents later raised to the reporter,” the letter noted.

The records also indicate the allegations sparked much debate inside the military on what to acknowledge in public. The first response was to deny anything ever took place.

However, a series of “talking points” were produced on June 17, 2008, in which it was acknowledged in regard to “Afghan male sexual abuse of underage males” that “Soldiers are generally aware of this practice taking place in Afghanistan; They know that abuse, let alone of minors is wrong by our standards; They will report this activity to the appropriate authorities.”

It is unclear how the NIS investigation concluded the allegations were unfounded when other organizations inside the Canadian Forces were acknowledging that the sexual abuse was indeed taking place.

A board of inquiry, ordered by Leslie last year, is still under way. The board, which has not released its report, will look only at whether the one assault reported in media occurred. The board is to “identify the actions taken by individual CF members and the chain of command in response to that incident,” as well as assess whether medical care was provided to any soldier who witnessed the incident.

Recommendations will be made on how to address future incidents of that nature, noted the board of inquiry outline produced by Leslie.

Leslie will review the contents of the report even though, according to military records, a member of his staff was informed about the sexual abuse issue in 2007.

Leslie, through a spokesman, declined to be interviewed as the board is still ongoing.

Asked whether there was a conflict of interest in allowing Leslie to review the findings of the board examining how the senior army leadership responded, an army official noted that Chief of the Defence Staff Gen. Walt Natynczyk will also review the records.

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