Well... after its all said and done and I got all that crap off my chest. I FORGIVE THEM. I have learned alot about leaders and groups. I have had one heck of an experience lately. A real roller coaster ride for the past month, but I FORGIVE THEM. I forgive The Secret Place and Vision Life Ministry. I forgive all the people involved for everything that was said and done. I forgive my workplace. Its time to take the next step in my life. I will do my homework before I get overly involved in any organization from now on. I forgive them and move on.

UPDATE: This 'deliverance' ministry seems to be laying low. Things are changing since I came forward. Yes, I forgive them. Its like they screwed up and they know it. I am still waiting to see if I can get my job back. More than a few people have came to me and asked me about what happened. I dont really want to talk about it, but I should. A young lady approached me in my church and told me her horror story about how they told her she had a disease because of her mom. Same crap they told me about my dad. Its all about separating someone from their family by filling their head full of crap and convincing them that they need to stay away from relationships outside their 'program'.. The one thing they fail to realize is.... I have their $300 training manual! I know all their tricks. I was trained to do exactly what they do. I discard the entire thing. I see the intimidation, manipulation, isolation, control tactics etc. because they trained me to do all that. No wonder I was run out of my workplace.... I refused to be converted and be recruited to their stuff. I forgive them. I warn anyone that takes interest in a 'deliverance' ministry to take the time to approach every local church and get a 2nd and 3rd opinion. You would be surprised. Aint a church in town that allows them to do their 'deliverance' in their buildings.

I had a short conversation with a close friend today about the whole spirit of Antichrist thing. And I learned something. Everytime I disagreed with the crap they teach, I was labelled. I was told I had the spirit of Antichrist because I didnt agree with what they were trying to convince me to believe. I was told its a method of protection. At first I did not understand this. So I was given an example. Lets say I disagree with a person named Bob. That would mean I could be labelled Anti-Bob. That does not mean I am Anti-Christ. That just exposes the fact that Bob thinks he is Christ. Get it? I disagree with the crap The Secret Place pushes so I am labelled Anti-Christ. They do not realize that by saying that they are taking on the role of Christ. If you disagree with them, you will be labelled Anti-Christ. That is very very messed up. If you fall for that crap, you will not want to go to church anymore, you will want to turn to them instead to get your Anti-Christ 'fixed'. Because they teach the churches are ignorant about deliverance. And that is the truth about the entire scam.

Since all this began and I stood up and expressed myself about this 'place'. I have been shocked. There are other people in this community that have approached me with their complaints about this so-called ministry. So Im not the only one. I have shared what I have learned lately and others have shared what they know. These deliverance ministries actually harm as many people as they help. They are just pushing a specific agenda and selling their product. They dont really care about those that will not accept what they believe. It doesnt help 'pay the bills'. Those that dont swallow what they teach are ate up with Anti-Christ. I continue to warn others about what is really going on at The Secret Place.

I have lost a few friendships over the past couple years that I spent participating at The Secret Place Ministry Center. I recently found out why. That head pastor continues to talk smack about me that isnt true. He is very good at turning people against one another. I dont know why he is like that. I still have a few friends there, and they continue to report to me and tell me what is being said about me. He recently let one of his 'disciples' go from his 'program' because he thought he was a 'mole'. That is so silly. He got the wrong one. He has no clue what is even going on. I have friends there, and he has ticked off almost all of his 'disciples' so they dont have a problem telling me what he says about me. I cannot believe the extent this guy will go to to protect his corrupt un-biblical teachings.

They continue to destroy my friendships. They are a 'deliverance cult' that hides behind the front of being a 'recovery ministry'. Dont get me wrong, helping a person to recover from drugs and alcohol is a great thing. But using that as a front is wrong. I understand now. Isolation is important to keep an addict away from drugs and alcohol. Isolation is also a tool to force your beliefs down an addicts throat. I understand that they need to separate a person from having internet access and confiscate their cell phones to keep them from pornography. Its also to keep them from the truth. They dont need their 'disciples' researching and doing their homework about 'deliverance cults'. This is the most genius scam I have ever seen in my life. The most 'soulish' attempt to change people and give credit to a 'method'. And they do it all in the Name of Jesus! And they re-arranged my life to prevent me from exposing the truth.

Let the truth be known. I really didnt want to share my personal business on here. But I did. Not out of fear, but for vigilance. And whats set in stone, is set in stone. Let my experience be a warning. Do your homework first.

If I am going to be open and honest and just 'spill the beans' about this 'group'., then I guess I should just be honest. The head pastor that run my life through the ringer was and maybe still is a homosexual. He was quite forward about his homosexual past. I was asked multiple times about 'compulsive masturbation', which is one of many personal items on their check-list (Freedom and Fullness). At first I didnt feel comfortable talking about it. But I was told to 'check it anyway'. And he seemed to stress this one specific area in my private 1-on-1's. Even to the point of telling me about his own masturbation. It was creepy, but I was under their spell at the time. I thought I could be truly healed and 'delivered' if I was honest. I was encouraged to just lay it all out there. I had the 'spirit' of perverseness etc. I had many spirits and curses according to them. So I fell for it. As time passed and I did not want to be a part of this 'group' anymore, I got involved in a relationship with a woman. And she eventually got pregnant. I was then bombarded with a reading list about Jezebel Spirit, Athaliah spirit, and Delilah spirit by this pastor man in secret outside of the recommended reading list. My relationship with this young lady didnt go so well, and having them bombard me with this 'secret' info about Jezebel did NOT help at all. All it did was make me feel insecure without their help. And when I turned to them, they would not help. They just warned me about the way of thinking that if it was a MATURE Jezebel then I need to be wary. I didnt have the kind of money to go through what they put out there for me. So I passed and out of ignorance I did not want to be in a relationship outside of their 'program'. I ended up putting our son up for adoption through a Christian Adoption Agency. All because they convinced me that the mother of my son was possessed by a 'Jezebel'. BEWARE of The Secret Place Ministry Center. Do your homework before you ever get involved with Vision Life Ministries. Unless you have alot of money for stuff you dont need, stay away.

I have been doing tons of research and I have learned alot. I dont think I should keep what Ive learned to myself. I should share it.

Things to watch out for in a 'deliverance' ministry:

The Spirit of Antichrist: If they tell you that you have the spirit of antichrist, watch out. This is used to make you feel like you have something wrong with you and you need them to get rid of it. They combined this with telling me that I was 'taught wrong' by the churches I went to in the past. This is an attempt to convince you that your personnal beliefs are wrong. This is a step towards converting you and recruiting you to their team. This made me doubt my faith and it made me want to stop going to church. As a Christian, it made me doubt my salvation and turn to them to get better.

Jezebel Spirit: Research the characterisitics of this spirit. Nobody is free from having this. Jezebel was a character in the Bible that they have transformed into some kind of spirit. The traits of this spirit seem to be based on psychology. I was in a relationship with a young lady and she got pregnant. It was not a healthy relationship and they told me she had a 'mature' Jezebel spirit. This was an attempt to break me away from a relationship outside of their 'program'. This played a part in me deciding to split up with her and put our son up for adoption. I sometimes wonder if I didnt buy into all their stuff, would I be with my son today? I feel bad about falling for what they said. Avoid anyone that tells you that you have Jezebel spirit.

Generational Curses: These are mentioned in the Bible as something that God does. These 'deliverance' people believe they have the ability to break what God does. They used the fact that my dad was a Freemason to convince me that I was cursed and would have bad health problems as a result. They really harp on the Freemasons for some reason. All this did was make me feel creepy when my dad came around. I felt like he was responsible for what I was going through. It was just another attempt to break me away from relationships outside their 'program'. It made me distance myself from my family. Dont fall for this.

Sex: I was asked in a private 1-on-1 session to go into detail about my past sexual experiences. Sex partners, multi-partners experiences, masturbation etc. This was awkward. Afterwards I felt like the guy had been 'hitting on me'. I didnt realize at the time that I had a pastor with a homosexual past digging into my sex life. Keep your own private matters to yourself and be wary of any pastor that tells you about how he masturbates.

Materials for Sale: I spent hundreds of dollars buying into all this. I bought books about inner healing, deliverance, past woundedness, root spirits, etc. The list of books available is a mile long and this is what its really all about. They have a subtle way of convincing you that you need this or that literature because you have this or that problem. I even bought the little wooden stakes and the bottle of oil to drive into the ground around my home. This was to close the 'portals' that spirits were coming through. Be cautious of any organization that wants to sale you excessive amounts of material or wants to charge you a hefty amount of money to 'train' you.

I hope this helps someone avoid the experience I went through. I feel like a sucker. Thanks to various websites such as this one I know now. I will never buy into anything like that again.

I had some second thoughts about continuing this thread, but thanks to some encouragement from a close friend, I think it would be best to continue. This is part of my personal testimony. This is actually a part of my daily journaling. I share this here for anyone who might be struggling with 'deliverance' and the many ways it interferes with living a normal life. Even though I feel uncomfortable with making this known, I do it for the hope of helping others. Here are some links that were shared with me. I would like to pass them on.

[www.allaboutgod.com]

[cicministry.org]

[www.ministrymagazine.org]

[www.gotquestions.org]

[www.compellingtruth.org]

Enjoy. Hope this helps someone.