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Re: Ching Hai cult
Posted by: viettrungt ()
Date: April 10, 2017 09:59AM

THE HERESY OF CHING HAI (SIKHISM) FALSIFIES THE QUAN YIN METHOD OF BUDDHISM. February 16th, 2017

1. Ching Hai is a disciple of Thakar Singh (Sikhism – not Buddhism). Ching Hai now claims to have a religious standing that is a trillion times higher than those of Buddha and Christ???
Ching Hai has learnt and applied the meditation method of Thakar Singh, a man without any attainment. For that reason, all individuals in the Quan Yin association are misconducting as religious practitioners.

2. Religious practice requires honesty, transparency, mercy, and love. It should not deceive others or take advantage of power to commit fraud, exercise repressions, commit slander or heartlessly expel disciples who dared to tell the truth (in order to muzzle them), etc.
An immediate emancipation method is not a method bound to a meditation centre without democracy or without the right to voice opinions, not one where only compliance with directions counts. This sometimes makes people concerned and anxious, and they no longer trust their wisdom.

3. Ching Hai claims to become a Buddha to give initiation to her disciples (but she secretly entered into a fake marriage with a royal member in Cambodia on May 28th, 1997, under the name Chan (Ching) Navy (Hai))???
It is called emancipation method – but why did she force all of her disciples to follow the Liaison election (January 11th, 2015) in Sydney, Australia! It is so unfair and unreasonable that anyone telling the truth will be dismissed from the Quan Yin association??? On August 10th, 2015, in Menton, France, Ching Hai told her disciples, who had been unreasonably and forcibly banned by the Foreign Group (FG), that the FG could do anything. The FG has the objective of receiving and announcing the direct will of Ching Hai in the Quan Yin Association, so why can it do anything?
At present, Ching Hai claims to be a Leader - Tim Qo Tu at a spiritual level that is trillion times higher than Buddha and Christ??? Yet she secretly asked Bien Trong, the administrator of the Supreme Master Ching Hai Facebook page, allowing this person to declare not to take charge as a representative for Supreme Master Ching Hai and Quan Yin Association and to release information and advertisements, and defend Ching Hai – that is such a dubious thing to do???
Ching Hai teaches her disciples to focus on inner values and meditate to search for True Self and spiritual uplifting as well as truth, goodness, and beauty that are not in line with the principles of the main practising method. Or all of these are just a deceitful doctrine of a spiritual practitioner aiming outer values, ambition of becoming a spiritual leader in this impermanent world.

Former disciple Nhu Hue.

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Cult Education message board has another Ching Hai thread
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: April 11, 2017 03:27AM

Here is a link to another, older Ching Hai discussion thread here on CEI -- it is SIXTY pages long.

[forum.culteducation.com]

cultleak Otto Wagner and Lauren Rose gave some recent information on a shorter discussion two years ago

[forum.culteducation.com]


David Christopher Lane is a sociologist and scholar of the Sant Mat movement. Sant Mat has divided into a multitude of sects; Thakar Singh was leader of one of those sects.

Thakar Singh Wants To Blindfold Children

[dlane5.tripod.com]

Chapter Five

MINORITY SUCCESSION

The Logic of Marginality

VI. THAKAR SINGH AND THE FOUNDING OF KIRPAL LIGHT SATSANG

Thakar Singh's place in one of the Sant Mat lineages.

[dlane5.tripod.com]

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(excerpt from a lengthy article - Sant Mat politics are intricate.)

he Administrative Imperative:

Guru as Legal Function

Since Madam Hardevi could not serve as the Satguru of Ruhani Satsang (reports differ on whether she ever wanted to or not), she needed to have someone serve as a guru to

1) continue on the spiritual practices emphasized by Kirpal Singh;

and

2) retain legal control of the ashram.

Initially she was supported in her efforts to remain as Chairperson and controller of Sawan Ashram by the Ruhani Satsang organization in North America. Reno Sirrine and Russell Perkins, in particular, rallied around her in opposition of Darshan Singh's candidacy. Yet during this time period (late 1974 to late 1975), Hardevi had not installed a bona fide successor. Indeed, the official word was that no genuine successor of Sant Kirpal Singh had emerged. With tensions mounting, and an intense political and legal battle being waged within the corridors of Sawan Ashram, three camps solidified:

1) Darshan Singh as successor;

2) No successor; and

3) Potential future successor.

In the first camp (Darshan Singh's), which later became known as Sawan-Kirpal Mission, the succession choice was clear and thus most of the Indian sangat followed suit.

In the second camp (no official successor), there were two major opinions, ranging from the idea that no new master was needed since Kirpal Singh was the Almighty Himself (and that future initiations should be conducted by listening to old tape recordings of Kirpal Singh conducting Nam Dan) to the notion that Soamiji Maharaj's line was meant to be finished with Kirpal Singh (and that seekers must look for a new master somewhere else).

And in the third camp (potential future successor), there were a wide range of views, including the notion of a "hidden" successor, someone who will manifest only after all the political in-fighting ceases or calms down.

Surprisingly, Thakar Singh did not really emerge out the third camp, which would be logical, but out of the second camp which, as we've noted, was spearheaded originally by Madam Hardevi. In fact, Thakar Singh was one of the original progenitors of the infamous "tape-recorded" initiations conducted on behalf of the "Almighty Kirpal."

As David Helion notes:

On June 17th [1975] I went once again to Sawan Ashram as a sister from the West wanted to see it for the first time. I could see Tai Ji [Madam Hardevi] inside talking to other people. As we were leaving some one followed us and said, "Why dont [sic] you stay for the initiation tomorrow?" I asked, "What initiation?" He replied, "Maharaj Ji is going to give initiation by tape recorder tommorow." . . . The following morning about twenty five persons came at 6 a.m. and Master Kirpal Singh Ji's oral instructions were played to them in Master's rooms. Tai Ji was present but additional instructions were given by someone called Thakar Singh from Chandigarh. . . [*NOTE: The Emergence of the New Master Darshan Singh , op. cit., page 114. *]

It is not clear, outside of purely political and economic reasons, why Thakar Singh was chosen as the best suited candidate to assume the gaddi at Sawan Ashram. One thing is certain, though: having a living human successor to Kirpal Singh alleviates the dubious theological claim that tape-recorded initiations are in line with Sant mat teachings and the legal question of whether a religious ashram can be viably run without a spiritual master. Whatever reasons Madam Hardevi may have held at one time, the fact remains that she switched from "no successor" to "one successor" of Kirpal Singh. Her choice, though temporarily heralded by Reno Sirrine and others on the Ruhani Satsang Board, resulted in a disaster, for Thakar Singh turned out to be the most scandalous guru in the history of Radhasoami.

By the mid-1980's reports circulated throughout the world about how Thakar had embezzled money, indulged in sexual affairs with numerous women, and had resorted to violent interactions with disciples. Madam Hardevi was spared the brunt of the negative publicity, however, since she died from a car accident in 1979, some five years before her chosen ambassador was exposed.

Thakar Singh's appointment raises Weber's idea of the routinization of charisma. What does a spiritual organization, founded by a perceived charismatic leader, do when the succession is in dispute?

Another chapter from David Christopher Lane here:

[dlane5.tripod.com]

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Thakar Singh's aberrations from the traditional and relatively conservative
path of Sant mat have also had a far reaching effect on the direction of his
organization. In 1989 Thakar Singh assigned several devotees to act as
worldwide missionaries for his movement, initiating almost anybody who
showed even the slightest interest in the path. This is a highly unusual
move, since Sant mat and Radhasoami groups have generally disdained
proselytizing. Moreover, Thakar Singh has instructed his child-bearing
devotees to raise their children under exceptionally severe conditions. For
example, children now born to initiates of Thakar Singh should be
blindfolded up until the age of five, only being allowed to see their mother
at times of feeding and satsang. Furthermore, children should listen to
classical Indian music for two hours daily, as well as meditate for five
hours each day. Such a regime, which to Western cultural norms would be
classified as child abuse, is part of Thakar Singh's plan to alter world
history. [*NOTE: In a circular sent out in 1989, Thakar Singh informed his
worldwide to raise children in the following manner: "The child is only to
have main contact with the mother. Even the father may only visit the child
once a week, after having meditated 12 hours. This is to keep all worldly
radiations away from the child, so it may remain totally pure. . . After the
bird of the child, it is to have a soft, white cotton blindfold put gently
over the eyes, so the the infant will remain naturally inverted inside most
of the 24 hours daily, up to the age of five years. The blindfold may be
taken off when the mother is breastfeeding the child. . . This is the only
eye contact that is allowed to or from the child. . . The mother may also
play Indian Classical music to the child and do this with either placing an
earphone in the right ear of the child (from birth on) or use stereo
headphones. This may be done for four hours daily. The rest of the time, the
child will automatically be in holy meditation, except while being fed and
cared for." Even long-time followers of Thakar Singh were initially shocked
by the severity of his advice for child-rearing. It is not clear, yet, how
many mothers are actually following the guru's admonitions. *]

As I have indicated, how followers support such actions is intimately
connected with how they view themselves in the micro world of Sant mat and
the macro world of secular society. That Thakar Singh's actions are not
viewed as contrary to general Sant mat principles--which they clearly are,
according to all the gurus and groups mentioned so far--graphically reflects
the pliable nature of theology, and how it often bends to the whims of
personal and social forces. This is not to suggest, though, that all of
Thakar Singh's followers blindly accept what their guru says, but only to
point out that charismatic imperatives on the one end and personal/social
needs on the other end can conjoin and transfigure longstanding religious
doctrines in ways much quicker and much stranger than one would suspect. It
is for this very reason that charismatic leadership has often been viewed
with deep suspicion, and why new spiritual movements are seen as
religiously, if not socially, deviant.

another excerpt:

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Although there was an initial buzz, so to say, among Ruhani Satsang
initiates about Thakar Singh's initial emergence on the scene in 1976, it
soon died down. First because Thakar Singh was viewed as an administrative
candidate, someone brought in to fill an executive void; second, because the
politics during the interim period (from late 1974 to late 1975) damaged any
possible credibility that Madam Hardevi had as an advanced spiritual
observer, untainted by ashram politics; and third, because Thakar Singh, for
whatever personal reasons, could not fulfill the onerous task set before
him. He was and continues to be an anomaly amongst Radhasoami gurus in the
20th century.

The Way of a Sexually Deviant Guru:

Legitimizing Contradiction

Perhaps the one greatest obstacle confronting Thakar Singh's claim as the
true successor to Kirpal Singh was Thakar himself. Unlike other gurus in his
tradition, Thakar Singh's moral life has been thoroughly scrutinized and
found wanting. Indeed, it has been well documented by a variety of
sources--both within and outside the movement--that Thakar Singh has
embezzled money, engaged in illicit sexual relations with a number of
western female disciples, and conducted violent exorcisms on several
devotees. In an unprecedented move to clear the matter up, Thakar admitted
to some of the charges claiming that "These devils had been working very
strongly on my lower self including body and mind and also had been creating
great disturbances in the Sangat in all parts of the world. The women
problem is also a result of temptation of these devils on my pure Self and
in this respect could succeed to some extend [sic: extent]." But it did not
squelch the criticism which eventually resulted in a large exodus from his
movement, including the resignation of his chief representative, Bernadine
Chard, of northern California.

In wake of the scandal and the lawsuits between Darshan Singh's group and
Madam Hardevi's, Thakar Singh lost the property rights to Sawan Ashram and
had to give up his residence there. He is continuing to act as a guru, but
his original core following has dwindled drastically. W.V. Rohr, a former
devotee in Germany, sent out an international circular against Thakar Singh.
His letter partially outlines the impact of the scandal:

That man [Thakar Singh], to whom I looked up during the past 7 years as
spiritual Master and "Guru", has admitted that he is not above mind and
matter, above "negativity" and mental temptations. I cannot keep quiet the
truth, as others seem they can. . . New facts concerning unholy activities
on the level of sexual contacts as well as disappearances of Manav Kendra
funds and donations by satsangis have come in the meantime. My personal
consequence is:

1. I withdraw totally from any and all Satsang and Sangat
activities whatsoever;

2. will not visit satsangs, where his words are
displayed;

3. do not look upon him as "spiritual Master" or "Sant Sat Guru"
in the line of Sant Kirpal Singh;

4. have requested [of] him [Thakar Singh]
full report and refund of funds cashed in under use of "catastrophe";


5. will continue sincerely with Light and Sound meditation and also Simran, as
he is a Kirpal initiate and help and guidance is prayed for from
Kirpal--until a truly spiritually and morally clean Master has been found,
who is truly working in Kirpals [sic] name and with His order.

Although the first expose of Thakar Singh occurred publically in 1984, it
was not until 1988 that the media in the United States got wind of Thakar's
sordid past. During this time several women who claimed to have been abused
by the guru came out with personal statements, describing in vivid detail
Thakar's predilection for sexual deviance. In light of Sant mat succession,
what makes Thakar's fall from grace significant is that he did not resign,
nor did the majority of his disciples quit the movement. In fact, a number
of devotees justified Thakar Singh's unusual actions. It is this process of
justification which we will want to examine in depth; however, before we do
that we need to closely examine the ways by which Thakar Singh strayed from
orthodox Sant mat principles.

(More follows)



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Re: Ching Hai cult
Posted by: cultleak ()
Date: April 13, 2017 06:48PM

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Re: Ching Hai cult
Posted by: cultleak ()
Date: April 13, 2017 06:59PM

I presented a large amount of full strong evidence proving Ching Hai isn't what she claims, on the Ching Hai Exposed website and the video channel but you know what it's like trying to convince most brainwashed cult members. I wrote more articles and have many more videos, which I decided to not publish as anyone would have to be so incredibly foolish to think Ching Hai is "enlightened" or "always right" especially with all the evidence there already is online that I've shared and by others.

Separately, they recently removed Ching Hai's second marriage wedding video from YouTube again.



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Re: Ching Hai cult
Posted by: cultleak ()
Date: July 30, 2018 08:31AM

One of Ching Hai's biggest secrets
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Ching Hai was asked in a 'lecture' if she has the ability to project outside of her body (etheric/astral projection) of which she said yes.

Another time Ching Hai asked members sitting in front of her if they temporarily leave their physical body to visit other countries and she particularly mentioned that she had visited the pyramids in Egypt that way.

Another time a member of the cult said they saw a ghost or form of Ching Hai of which Ching Hai responded that sometimes her Etheric body goes out and wanders by itself.

(the Etheric body is a spiritual body which looks exactly the same as one's physical body and exists in the Etheric plane or dimension that is one level above the physical. In the Etheric dimension people who have the ability to temporarily leave their body while still living, can see and hear everything in the physical, they can go through walls and can even go to another city in a second)

Ching Hai has the ability to Etheric project and uses it to spy on the cult's members including in their own private homes. All members of the group have to give their address in a registration form they fill and sign to join. While in the Etheric dimension some or many people also can read people's thoughts which Ching Hai is able to do and does. Also, one can suggest, things to people while spying on them in the Etheric and the victim would be unaware they were spoken to.



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Re: Ching Hai cult
Posted by: thuy_anh ()
Date: June 15, 2019 09:38PM

LYING NATURE OF BLOODY EVIL THANH HAI WAS EXPOSED BY DEMON DETECTING MIRROR
Hey, disguised Tien Van or female ghost Thanh Hai! You proclaimed yourself as a Living Buddha at the initial realm, and in 1997 you got married with a young man and kissed each other - what kind of realm do you call? Now you proclaim yourself as a GOD TIM QO TU or SUPREME GAUTAMA BUDDHA OF ALL BUDDHAS whom you did not assume as such in the past. And at that time, you had never said that even Buddha could not know whatever you did, but Buddha only understood a bit? Deceiving such bloody things, what realm are you in, sister Hai? or your marriage in Kampuchea at that time was sent to the Original Universe by Queen of Màras Tim Qo Tu Thanh Hai and so far Buddha and Jesus Christ are still in the Shadow Universe – is that your says? Hey disguised Tien Van or Mrs Thanh Hai !, you fabricated a story, only deceived your disciples and everyone at the initial stage and now everything has been exposed! At the initial stage, you lied to everyone that you passed from mind to mind (initiated) - called Quan-Jin method applicable to all Buddhas who have practiced this method in order to become Buddha; you never said this was a meditation of Sikh religion. Now the meditation of Sikh religion has been exposed so you had to make up a further story about this method being a branch of Sikh religion? Evil master Thanh Hai is a professional liar because in the past she did not accept to be a disciple of the Sikh religion of Mr Thakar Singh. Now everything has been exposed precisely so she had to accept it. However, again, she made up another story that she was transmitted from mind to mind (initiated) by Master KHUDA JI who had lived 450 years in Himalaya Mountain before passing away and the mind to mind transmission (initiation) was applied to her only? (for her only, because if there is another person, her lies will be exposed). She also said the mind transmission (initiation) of Sikh religion has been transmitted to her current life by Mr Thakar Singh, but in her past life, she was his great master and she was great, great master of Mr Thakar Singh’s disciple who is now he teaching mind transmission method of Sikh religion? (Mrs Thanh Hai is a bloody evil – a professional liar). She declares that any disciples who are faithful to her till death, will be entered the VIP super soul by her? (It must be the VIP super lie instead!!!). She also made up a story to cheat her disciples and said that after she was born, two Buddhas entered into the body and did a well clean and that her soul entered into the child’s body? (Female ghost Thanh Hai is a horrible liar!). Therefore all disciples of Thanh Hai religious sect have been brainwashed by the heterodoxy of a nefarious lady and they have believed in her very dull-witted and fanatic without reasonableness of normal people. Her crime, cheating and lying are so many, I only summarise and wish everyone should keep away from her. Namo Shakamuni Buddha.

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Posted by: cultleak ()
Date: December 19, 2020 03:29PM

Another contributer had stated that Ching Hai uses language in a particular way to essentially hypnotise people, the other contributer is correct. Ching Hai twists language to hypnotise those she's talking to without them realizing and she also uses psychology to help her maintain control of her followers as well as get new ones.

As mentioned before Ching Hai unfortunately has the ability to etheric project (temporarily leave her body) and she uses this ability to tresspass into her followers' private homes and the homes of others. She tresspasses in their homes, spies on them and hypnotises them.

With etheric projection one can travel to the other side of the planet in less than 10 minutes.

Ching Hai keeps control of her followers by hypnotising them without them knowing, in their own homes as well as through her videos and her demonic television channel.

Ching Hai is a slave user, soul abuser, and a pathological and systematic liar, among so many other also negative things. Her followers think doing things for her for free is a "blessing" and she attacks her followers when they did nothing to deserve to be attacked by her claiming she's 'cleansing their karma'. Ching Hai has no heart, at all. She teaches a meditation anyone can teach in less than 10 minutes and sucks the energy and soul of her followers throughout the whole lives. A less than minutes meditation instruction for a lifetime of slavery and abuse, as well as being worshipped by her followers who think she's God because she said to them she is.

Ching Hai is literally, absolutely pure evil.

--

My name is Unlimited Power



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Posted by: volta1204 ()
Date: June 14, 2023 01:27AM

Hello, my name is Dan and I'm working on a feature-length documentary about Ching Hai, featuring the voices of followers, ex-followers, as well as cult experts like Rick Alan Ross.

Currently in the fact-finding, research stages and would love to speak with anyone who has personal experience with this group (my mom is a long-time follower). Especially interested in speaking with an ex-follower who is trying to help other followers leave.

My email for this project is: voltafilms.suprememaster@gmail.com

Please feel free to reach out and looking forward to chatting further!

Thank you,
Dan

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Re: Ching Hai cult
Posted by: volta1204 ()
Date: June 14, 2023 01:35AM

Are you the owner of the Ching Hai Exposed website? If so, I'd love to speak with you about your findings, as I'm working on a documentary project about the group.

My email is: voltafilms.suprememaster@gmail.com

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Re: Ching Hai cult
Posted by: Yaldatovah ()
Date: July 13, 2023 08:03PM

DUTY TO WARN
The Shabd is the inner Sound, the vibration of God. We are all part of God. We are the same essence of God. A Master connects us to this vibration and thereafter we practice the meditation technique to elevate us to higher realms. The Shabd draws us up into the higher regions, finally reaching Sach Khand, the abode of God.
Past Light and Sound Masters, also known as Gurus of Surat Shabd Yoga, throughout history have warned against false masters, fake masters, and have also said that we have the responsibility to tell others if we have discovered that a master is fake.
In that spirit of needing to tell the truth and protect others from being misled, we who have been duped by false masters in the past, are sending this to you with love and caring.
Cult leaders may also be false masters. A false master is usually also a cult leader.
According to Sant Swami Bhagirath of Bihar, India, a Guru of Surat Shabd Yoga, a person who has attained even the low astral level may also have attained powers there. But if that person misuses those powers by producing miracles or otherwise violating the basic precepts, they lose their powers.
Hue Dang Trinh, who proclaims herself to be Supreme Master Ching Hai, is a fake master. We urge you to read Sant Mat books and do your research to learn about the true path. Here are some areas proving a fake master.
A Satguru means a true teacher or true remover of darkness or deliverer of light.
Sant Mat means the Path or Teachings of the Saints or Masters.

AREAS OF CONCERN
1. EGO
A Satguru will never talk about themselves, never boast of their power or level, and never degrade the levels of other Masters. Hue Dang Trinh has committed these transgressions numerous times.
2. MIRACLES
A Satguru will never produce miracles. It is up to the disciple to practice the Sant Mat meditation diligently to experience miracles within.
3. LINEAGE
A Satguru will talk about their own Gurus or Masters and their lineage. Hue was initiated by Master Thakar Singh, a disciple of Master Kirpal Singh. Hue was sent by Thakar Singh to Taiwan as his representative. Instead, Hue went rogue and started proclaiming that she was a Master and initiated people. She did not have the training or the blessing of her Master to do this. She stole the Sant Mat method and said it was a special method revealed to her by a fictitious 450 year-old Master in the Himalayas. She even stole the concept of the spiritual diary from Thakar Singh but it was missing pages describing the inner lights and sounds. Her pronunciation of the five holy names are incorrect.
Thakar Singh sent his representatives to Taiwan to deliver a letter to Hue pleading with her to stop doing initiations that she was not authorized to do. After reading the letter to herself, Hue said to her the disciples gathered around her that the letter was pleading with her to come back to India so they could bow at her feet. That was a lie verified by the representatives present. She of course refused to do anything.
4. EQUAINIMITY
Equanimity means mental calmness, composure, and evenness of temper, especially in a difficult situation. A Satguru will always display equanimity. Hue frequently loses her temper and screams at disciples and others. She has said this is to erase their karma but it has the effect of lowering the self-esteem of her victims.
5. LOVE
A Satguru will always display love and kindness and those around a true Guru will take on those qualities of love and kindness and be infused with this tremendous love. Those attending Hue’s retreats often experience fear, or an absence of love.
6. TRUE TEACHINGS
A Satguru will only talk about spirituality and the Shabd. A True Teacher will never talk about politics or draw your attention to worldly events. They will emphasis the importance of going within to connect with your higher Self, with God. For many years now, Hue has talked about politics and the world and rarely mentions the Shabd, the Word of God, the Sound of God, and the importance of going inwards. She has spread false information including that Trump is a messenger from God to bring peace to the planet and she ignores the facts that Trump during his presidency said over 30,000 lies, has had numerous sexual affairs while married, did not pay his bills in his real estate business, in effect stealing from others, and empowers white supremacy hate groups.
Hue has also said that Putin was good until he invaded Ukraine. She has said that the cruel dictator Kim Jong Un is a good boy and recently even said that North Korea has the least amount of karma.
7. HEAVEN TALKING
True Gurus say that God does not talk to you like giving you messages. Those messages come from the negative force. True Gurus say that when you think you are hearing messages it is your own mind talking to you. Hue frequently will say that “heaven told her.” She is hearing her own mind. These things are not true. Hue said the world would end in 2012 and when it did not she claimed credit. She is now saying that the world will end in 2027.
8. FOSTERING FEAR
A Sant Satguru will emphasize the importance of spiritual devotion, meditation practice, devotion to God, love, and kindness for others. The mantra taught by a Sant Satguru is used to quiet the mind, achieve single point concentration, achieve peace, and enter the spiritual realm. The Shabd, the Sound of God, helps devotees rise above the negative emotions of the world, and takes them into the inner realms.
Hue’s threats of the end of the world are used to get her disciples to do what she wants, often to their own mental, emotional, and financial detriment. The effect that has on people uproots their lives, scares, and scars their children and in general keeps people in a state of panic. When her predictions do not come true, she claims full credit for saving the world.
In 2012 she told her disciples the world has been saved for a minimum of 10,000 years, only to contradict herself later saying the world will end in 2022, then 2023 and now 2027.
She also threatened her disciples that they can be “uncreated,” a very frightening proposition which is not true.

Many of the people who have stayed with her are depressed from being told everyone is demons and not knowing who to trust. She used to teach that everyone was God, but now teaches everyone is demons, used to teach loving connection and now sows mistrust and suspicion. The main damage has been in the way she makes her followers feel about other people.

9. ANIMAL RIGHTS ADVOCACY
This may be Hue’s true mission, to save animals. But being vegan alone will not save you from having to be born again. And it will not guarantee that you are born into a human body.
10. BOASTS
A Satguru will never boast about their accomplishments. Hue has said she has smashed machines that are controlling us. That she personally got rid of karma. That she locked Maya up. She says she is God and higher than any other Master. She says she has been famous people in Earth’s history including Jesus, George Washington, Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, and many Asian Kings and Queens.
11. COMPLAINTS
A Satguru will never complain about their own health, their work, or their disciples. Hue has said that her attendants and people around her are from hell. She constantly complains about the amount of work she has, how hard she works, and how she doesn’t have time to sleep or eat.
12. HALLUCINATIONS
Hue has said that you have nine minutes to eat your food before demons eat it. She says she talks to survivors on Mars. She says she talks to aliens, to spiders, to beings in the middle of earth. She says she talks with the Chief of the Covid virus. She says that demons made people vote for Joe Biden and that is why Trump lost the election. She also blamed demons for electing Senator Warnock of Georgia. She says she has created spiritual blessing lines across the planet. She says that there are portals in hell in areas of Earth. She says that President Biden, VP Kamala Harris, and previous Speaker of the House Pelosi are demons. She says you can exist without water and food.
13. SUPPORT YOURSELF THROUGH YOUR OWN WORK
All Satgurus say that you should support yourself through your own work and not take money from others. Hue supports herself through the sale of her jewelry, clothes, and artwork which mainly disciples buy. These items are exorbitantly overpriced. She also sells the vegetarian meats to the Loving Hut restaurants where the owners and workers barely make enough money to survive.
14. SPIRITUAL POINTS
Satgurus do not place numerical values on your spiritual merit. Hue has made up a list of things you can do to increase your spiritual points, like sitting in the sun, and wearing her jewelry and clothing. These will not take you to higher spiritual realms. Only the practice of listening to the inner Sound will get you there.
15. SMTV
Hue has created the Supreme Master TV online channel. The developers, workers, and presenters are not paid. They are told that they earn spiritual points by doing this work. Many work long hours and are like slave laborers. Hue says that SMTV is watched by billions across the cosmos. Not true. It is not even watched by many people here on Earth.
16. HIERARCHY OF BEINGS
A true Guru affirms that all spiritual beings belong to God but only through the human form can they practice the Sant Mat method of light and sound meditation to reach the higher realms. Hue, on the other hand, says that women are more spiritually evolved than men, that white people are more spiritually evolved than black people, that certain countries are more spiritual. She says that North Korea (a country whose people are suffering under a cruel dictator) has the least amount of karma and that Denmark (one of the most progressive countries on the planet) is one of the countries with the most amount of karma.
17. DAMNING CONDEMNATION
Hue says that she is higher than every other Master on the planet, that all other Masters are only the third level. On numerous occasions, she has threatened her own disciples that they will go to hell if they do not follow her directions.
18. FALSE PROMISES
Sant Mat Satgurus say that if you do not reach Sach Khand this lifetime through your meditation practice, then you will come back into a human body placed with a good family where you will be able to continue your practice the next lifetime. It may take up to four lifetimes to achieve true salvation. Satgurus say that you cannot practice light and sound meditation on higher realms if you haven’t reached Sach Khand during your lifetime as a human. Hue says that you can continue practicing your meditation after death on a higher level. This is not true. Hue says that she has created a spiritual realm above the 5th level where she brings her liberated disciples and others such as presidents. A spiritual soul cannot go to the 5th level unless they have reached that through their meditation practice.
At the same time, Hue says that souls cannot go above the 5th level, only she can. This is not true. A Sant Mat Satguru will take you to the 5th level and God will elevate you from there to higher realms where you will merge with God.
Hue has said that you can’t get to the higher realms through the Sound. This is not true. It is only the Sound that elevates you.
19. ANTI-SCIENCE
A Sant Satguru will tell disciples to listen to their doctors and take the prescribed medicines. Hue has attacked and disparaged the most senior scientist physician in the United States, Dr. Fauci. She has said the Covid vaccine does not work and urged disciples not to get vaccinated saying that it had terrible side effects and does not work. The truth is that the Covid vaccine saves lives and prevents hospitalizations.
Because of the guidance of this fake master, the group held super spreader events during the Covid lockdown where at least one person died of Covid because of the exposure.
20. EXCESSIVE PARANOIA
Hue often cites that she must move often because she is constantly in danger from physical and invisible forces. She states that spiders, wild animals, and heavenly guides tell her when and where to move. In 2008, Hue asked all the center liaisons around the world (referred to as Contact People) to travel to her Menton, France meditation center for a special message. Most were already travelling when several emails were sent saying not to come to the Menton center and to meet at an undisclosed remote location instead. When the initiates arrived, they were transported to an abandoned barn and told they were there to celebrate Hue’s birthday. Birthday decorations and cake were delivered. Hue showed up in a panic and let everyone know that she was being chased by drug dealers and other criminals because she was trying to eliminate smoking, drugs and meat eating as part of her Go Veg campaign. She screamed that her life was in danger. This is one example of many where she seems increasingly afraid of her safety. She does not disclose her location, and it changes often. As of 2020, she has not been featured on SMTV. Only audio is available.
21. DOOMSDAY
From 1985-1998 the group mostly promoted basic Sant Mat (a mystical Indian spiritual practice meaning Teachings of the Saints) teachings and following the five precepts. While Hue never acknowledged her past teachers, Thakar Singh and the nun Xing-Jing in Taiwan, her method remained mostly a watered-down version of Sant Mat with Buddhist, Christian and new age influences. Things began to change in the late nineties when Hue hinted at her first doomsday prophecy in the year 2000. She would often say ‘if we survive’ when asked about the rumored end of the Mayan calendar. Her next big prediction was in 2012. She started this campaign many years prior, printing out pamphlets that all the ice around the world will melt and the ocean will rise in catastrophic levels. Initiates were encouraged, during retreats, to sell their houses and build caves to survive. They worked harder at SMTV and opening loving huts to ‘save the world’. The doomsday clock was featured prominently on SMTV, and each day was counted down. Several months before the clock ran out, followers were overjoyed when Hue announced at a retreat that she had bargained with heaven for more time. She subsequently added more days to survive with each new announcement. All followers credited her and her alone for saving the world. Currently SMTV features numerous apocalyptic predictions from solar flares to war to the use of atomic bombs. What was once a quiet meditation group became an alarmist doomsday obsession.

22. URGENCY AND PRESSURE
SMTV workers often work long hours without sleeping. Remote workers receive calls in the middle of the night telling them that work needs to be performed immediately. SMTV always needs work immediately and requests are always accompanied with extreme pressure to complete assignments immediately. Hue promotes this culture of urgency in all facets of her teaching.
23. EARNING MONEY FROM FOLLOWERS
Hue proudly states that she does not accept any money from her followers. Selling her expensive art, clothing, jewelry, books, and other items to followers is seen as a de facto donation. Her creations are marketed and sold almost exclusively to her followers. In 1996, the United States Congress investigated Hue’s illegal donations to the Clinton Defense Fund, which were ultimately returned to Hue because of their illegal nature. The contact person from New York was asked to testify by the United States Government about his role in collecting donations with Hue and Charlie Trie at the Ritz Carlton in New York City. In his testimony he stated that he was asked to purchase $70,000 of money orders which were then funded by disciples. During a meeting with Hue and Charlie Trie, he witnessed Hue take $20,000-25,000 in money orders (that were meant to be contributions from disciples to the Clinton campaign) for “sect-related expenses.” Hue taking money was in direct conflict with her claim of never taking donations. Source: [www.govinfo.gov]

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