His Holiness the Dalai Lama has declared: "If there is any difference between who you are sitting on your throne, and who you are behind the scenes, then you should not be sitting on that throne." And on two-faced teachers who deny or rationalize their unwholesome hidden behavior, the Dalai Lama says to students of such teachers: "You get out. You let everybody know, you don't keep it secret." (Quoted in Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo, Into the Heart of Life, 2011, pp. 161-2)

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Potentially unsafe groups or leaders "come off very nice at first, they go for vulnerable people who are looking for answers, lonely, what you'd call 'normal people.' They're very good at what they do and can get people to believe anything. You might think you'd never get taken in, but don't bet on it. "
-- Margaret Singer, Ph.D.

By Rick Ross, Expert Consultant and Intervention Specialist



Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
The group/leader is always right.
The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.
Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.
Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.
Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.
Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.
Ten signs of a safe group/leader.

A safe group/leader will answer your questions without becoming judgmental and punitive.
A safe group/leader will disclose information such as finances and often offer an independently audited financial statement regarding budget and expenses. Safe groups and leaders will tell you more than you want to know.
A safe group/leader is often democratic, sharing decision making and encouraging accountability and oversight.
A safe group/leader may have disgruntled former followers, but will not vilify, excommunicate and forbid others from associating with them.
A safe group/leader will not have a paper trail of overwhelmingly negative records, books, articles and statements about them.
A safe group/leader will encourage family communication, community interaction and existing friendships and not feel threatened.
A safe group/leader will recognize reasonable boundaries and limitations when dealing with others.
A safe group/leader will encourage critical thinking, individual autonomy and feelings of self-esteem.
A safe group/leader will admit failings and mistakes and accept constructive criticism and advice.
A safe group/leader will not be the only source of knowledge and learning excluding everyone else, but value dialogue and the free exchange of ideas.


Don't be naïve, develop a good BS Detector.
You can protect yourself from unsafe groups and leaders by developing a good BS detector. Check things out, know the facts and examine the evidence. A safe group will be patient with your decision making process. If a group or leader grows angry and anxious just because you want to make an informed and careful decision before joining; beware.

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Humanity in Unity (HIU)? Sai Baba’s disciple….Sai Maa
Posted on 4 December 2009 by dialogueireland
We would welcome feedback concerning Sai Maa and her organisation. It is our intention to add new material once we have had time to process it.
A relation of mine is involved with an organisation called Humanity in Unity (HIU), led by a charismatic female leader currently known as Sai Maa. Sai Maa is a disciple of the infamous Sai Baba, and often refers to him as her mentor.
My relation has visited the US to attend “courses” run by this woman. I know these courses are very expensive, and that substantial sums have also been given to a “trust” for Sai Maa’s “health and well-being”. My relation has recently began discussing the sale of property he owns, on various pretexts. Over the past year, my relation has begun associating more and more with people associated with this organisation. Over time, they have taken up more of his time, to the point it is difficult to meet him on his own, i.e. he is almost always in their company. This has been concurrent with a gradual lessening of time spent between my relation and his friends and family. I am deeply worried about him. He tends to be gullible and naive, and is easily led. If anyone has information on this organisation or people associated with it, I would be grateful to hear it.

Examples of some of the comments. For full material, go to the Dialogue Ireland site.

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nonymous, on 19 September 2016 at 10:16 am said:
“Psychomotor therapy is neither widely practiced nor supported by clinical studies. In fact, most licensed psychiatrists probably wouldn’t give it a second glance.”
This is a New York Times article about Pesso’s successor’s work. Bessel van der Kolk
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Albert Pesso, the creator of a therapy very similar to JOPH – sans Guru the ego trip.
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nonymous, on 29 August 2016 at 6:41 am said:
I did go to JOPH – Journey of Profound Healing. It was very psychologically violent. The claim was she was pulling out the chords of our karma. We were no longer subject to psychological trauma from the past or neurological/psychological nuances. She continually placed the blame for people’s problems on their parents. There was an intense release at the end; more from the yelling finally ending in truth. She claimed it was her great power. The program actually involved sleep deprivation as everyone searched for the seed of their “problem.” Food intake cut back and hours spent observing or participating in play-presentations of people’s life traumas. This is a real therapy developed in Europe in the 60’s by a dancer. No mention of his contribution.

Naturally there will be endorphin highs at the end of such a thing. They are not indicative anything spiritual; but just human brains doing what human brains do in high stress situations. I could see many fellow members ensnared in her claims; I was for a bit, too.

It’s wild… how we’ll fall for this stuff. I regret meeting the ‘enlightened’ friends; who are really not role models in life. Read: unemployed, under-employed, struggling financially, reading into every event that happens, claiming a higher level of consciousness in relationship strains, contacting intuitives at any moment of crisis or change, drawing tarot cards, hearing voices, and believing that their work, uniquely theirs, or their presence is rising up humanity’s level of consciousness. It almost felt like they had recreated an Indian caste system in their own minds.

Note: my family; full of scientists and mathematicians picked up her and her successor’s books at my request and couldn’t finish because it’s hack science. They were too polite to tell me at the time. Now we laugh about it; but I shudder at the thought of the money I did spend for the retreat (several thousand) and the shocking time it took to pull out of the strange beliefs.

Stay far away.

Anonymous, on 29 August 2016 at 6:16 am said:
She seems very impressive and all-knowing if you are in a needy place when you meet her. Sometimes people are. A more stable, well-versed human would listen respectfully, chuckle, ponder a few irrational statements, and leave at the end of the evening having experienced an interesting sub-sect of New Age believers. The nuttiness is quite apparent.

I’m not sure how bad it gets in the inner circles, but it is apparent that there are those circles. My friends were in the slightly inner circles and they believed in a number of hypnosis paths, including MSIA and ACIM.

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evin, on 9 May 2016 at 10:46 am said:
My wife was always interested in Eastern mysticism and she fell into the cult’s clutches at a spiritualist Weekend.

I have lost my wife to Humanity in Unity (HIU). Indian spiritual teacher, Her Holiness Sai Maa Lakshmi Devi who is teaching that the Earth is about to ascend into a new and higher dimension, and those who are spiritually prepared for the change will be moving with it.God help us all.
Seems incredible that anyone in this day and age could fall for a guru who claims to be a disciple of Sai Baba. Maybe if it was the 1980s, but since then the internet has brought to light the chicanery of so many fake gurus and spiritual leaders, Sai Baba being one of the foremost,

Anonymous, on 4 May 2016 at 5:43 pm said:

My daughter has been lost to me as a result of Sai Maa’s teachings. My daughter has spent thousands of dollars on Sai Maa’s retreats or clinics or whatever they are called. When we spoke last and I said something against Sai Maa, my daughter screamed bloody murder at me and ended the phone call. That was the last time we spoke and that was weeks ago.

My daughter is 29 and college educated. What does Sai Maa do to them to convert them and have them dissconnect with their families that love them. Is the next step in the Sai Maa’s to have her followers “drink the kool-aId” like the Jim Jones followers did? Someone tell me how we can join together and debunk her to all the world. SHE MUST BE STOPPED.

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I can say without a doubt that the Sai Maa Organization is a sinister CULT ! And I stand by that 100%
This organization is run by Sai Maa who’s has a tons of property in the US, she has been running a Ponzi scheme for years making Millions off the backs of innocent people and getting away with it cheating right under the governments nose when it comes to taxes and money .
Each person that works for her gets an allowance of money and each person is a disciple of Sai Maa, they do what ever this lady wants and will kiss the floor that her feet walks on, and I mean kiss the floor, they are her humble obedient slaves. They each have a photo of her on there cells phones that comes up every time the phone rings and pray to tons of photos and gifts from this insane sick woman. They believe Sai Maa to be a divine being worthy of worship. Its totally madness !

Sai Maa with the help of these people have for many years ruined and the lives of tons of people and families that fall for her Ponzi scheme. Its a Cult that splits people up with brain washing and Hitler like disciplinary acts of aggression . There are many disciples from New York, Pennsylvania, Quebec, Florida, etc. All of them are geeky nuts who put on a show all in white to get people in and twist peoples minds that they have huge problems and that Sai Maa can fix there problems quickly.

A good couple I went with to Naples Florida with for the Journey of Profound healing had a horrible experience. It started out interesting but quickly turn very dark. During the session the couple that i went with had hard questions for Sai Maa about there future and things they wanted in life. My friends wife was told by Sai Maa spoke to her privately and said that she felt the man she was with was not right for her and that she should flat out leave him and come and travel with her and the organization and promised her the man of her dreams. My friends wife quickly found this somewhat problematic and told me about it. I know this couple very well and they are both a very loving and caring couple so it seemed strange that Sai Maa would recommend this.
Her husband told me when he spoke to Sai Maa she seemed to really hate him and even tried to put him in a bad light saying she could see problems for him and that he should accept what difficulties would be coming his way soon. It became clear to all of us that she was clearly trying to divide this beautiful couple. After we did research and ask many friends that went to Sai Maa what was there experience, almost all the people we spoke to found the entire journey and experience horrible and felt they were being sucked into a real Cult where everyone that was a member was watching you constantly and trying hard to brainwash you to spend more money and keep tabs on you everyday.

These people and Sai Maa are a disease, any life with anyone who is a member of this Cult you are basically signing your name to be in the circle of Sai Maa who will en fact control you and always be in the way of any real good future you think you may have. She will take your life and your children away from you.
Sai Maa needs to be banned from the country she is a danger to the people – especially easily influenced youth. Again the Sai Maa Organization is a sinister CULT!!!

My Ex boyfriend is a member of Sai Maa and he is young not like the older members that are clearly insane once you meet them. We were together for four year and were very seriously in Love but then Sai Maa destroyed everything we built, our home our future everything lost. He spent thousands of dollars on Sai Maa’s retreats. The foundation and communication was lost forever. I’m here to tell everyone that Sai Maa is a horrible woman and how this organization works inside.
Each of its members are brainwashed into believing this woman is there savior and can only help them with what ever issues they may have. Nothing and I mean NOTHING gets in the way of there devotion to Sai Maa, you can ask them to pull back and take a break from Sai Maa and the answer will always be the same they are not going to turn there backs on the world of energy and the spirit of Sai Maa. Sai Maa is there Core, it is who they know themselves to be. They follow her around the world from country to country and travel for her. They spend little time with the ones they love the most because they are on conference calls all the time and traveling for her.It is very very Creepy. The things my ex boyfriend told me was very creepy and sad at the same time.

She is more real to each member than there own body, or the clothing on there backs or even there own Personality!!!! They can not be realistically be in a relationship with someone who does not accept, embrace or rejoice in the devotion of Love to Sai Maa. It’s not possible for them ! Like Robots they are Wired to the Core. It’s a HUGE disconnect for them if the other person is not into Sai Maa in some way. There is absolutely no future with any of the members of Sai Maa if you not willing to go down that road, if you are not aligned internally & spiritually. THIS IS A FACT!!! Doesn’t get clearer than that for them. They are Sick twisted Brainwashed people. For them it’s very simple, “Everything is Maa”. Which is on a pure level is SICK !!! All the disciple of Sai Maa practice like this all the time without fail.

They are poisoned from the inside, on the outside they show lots of love and seem to be amazing bright eyed people full of energy also trying hard to be someone that they really are not. But inside they are wired to serve and do all that Sai Maa ask of them. The Brain washing and conditioning goes very deep en-fact there is a lot of open touching and feeling amongst all the members to share themselves. At this level the way Sai Maa works it may as well be Rape, because it is exactly that. She is bleeding her disciples dry and alienating them from their families.
If you are in contact with any of these members I suggest you be careful or even in a relationship, they will try hard to get you to drink the Cool-aid of Sai Maa, not right away but when an opportunity comes they will get you to meet Sai Maa and when they do she will do her best to get to join there group and participate in some way shape or form. It is about energy but the energy put out there is negative, this is a very sinister cult and not healing or clearing blockage at all. The only way to be in a relationship with any member of Sai Maa is that you have to also be apart of Sai Maa, this is how it works, and this is how they want it to work. Each member is an introvert and not sure of who they really are, they want to be apart of a group but they just don’t fit in at all, and its because of Sai Maa and the way she has them conditioned and brainwashed. Totally warped around her finger. And yes they all say on the phone a code to each other, they are instructed to say “Om Jai Jai Sai Maa” all the time when greeting each other, my ex boyfriend did it all the time without fail, it made me sick to hear him say this all the time even in front of our friends and family.

The other problem about Sai Maa is her swami, “Swami Parameshwarananda” who is in fact Jewish but has been compared to a nazi at the Crestone Ashram! Devotees paid for two (2) $1 million dollar properties in Crestone, Colorado!! His daughter who also works with Sai Maa and is an obedient devotee disciple who dedicates her life to Sai Maa “Becky Morrison film producer of the Light” Swami Parameshwarananda went after people, with threats of calling the sheriff, if they did not fall in line with his myopic dictates. He was more worried about getting POA approval for more beds than being a decent human being — which means he was status hungry. Again Greed! Why Sai Maa chose a male instead of a female as resident swami for the ashram, when she endorses “Feminine Energy” as the “NEW WAY” is beyond me !?????

Do remember this is a money machine, each person that meets Sai Maa pays up to $2,000 to $4,000 just to vist and see her with hotel and flight. Each Person!!! Thats a lot on money & a lot luxury for Sai Maa with all her homes scattered around the country and cars and Slaves! Each member receives an allowance of money this is very true. Sai Maa’s need for money is huge. Sai Maa is a fraud and criminal, family members have given her more than 30,000 bucks and she still asks for more.

Sai Maa is NOT LOVE
Sai Maa is a FRAUD of LOVE
She is dangerous especially to Young People. They want new Young people to join there organization and are working hard to get new members to join. They are working on new steps including new video’s to get new and younger members. It’s time people joined together and put a stop to this Cult Organization for good and debunk her to all the world. I can tell you that most of the members are not very smart they are like children playing with candy, the main person to take down is Sai Maa. Cut the head off the snake and the rest will fall. The time is now to strike . People in India know she is a Fake. If you show her website to an Indian, he or she will immediately know she is a fake. She is NOT a master she is a FRAUD!!!

I have to say, I did at some take a few courses with Sai Maa a while back and at first it seemed interesting but after a short time nothing is what it seemed, it was a very strange environment to be in. First for the most part everyone is practically like a Hippy no doubt about that, but they all live under conditions that are controlled by Sia Maa. I felt like an idiot for spending so much money on Sai Maa and having her and these robot devotees telling me what to do and trying to direct my life when for the most part you can see there lives were no better . These devotees appear kind like a person you can confide in and be a shoulder but they absolutely are not! They try to make you feel like everything will be ok and Sai Maa will save you. Sure.

If you really look at Sai Maa all you see are crazy hippy White People who are just lost in there sad unfulfilled life. You don’t see many other people because they have not been able to pull the wool over the eyes of anyone other then poor or rich white people. End of day all Sai Maa can see are dollar signs, she knows old white rich or poor lost weak minded people will buy in to magic spells, crappy costumes, white clothing dressed devotees with red dots on there head and eye stares that she does when talking to people. We as Americans are buying in to her garbage, soaking up her fake energy that she is feeding and it’s really quite sad to witness . To see so many people basically suckered into the crap she is feeding just to try to feel like we are getting something for what is missing or hurting in our lives.

Sai Maa preys on the weak the way all fake guru’s do. She personally destroyed a good friend of mine who’s life was in great chaos and crisis but after she continued for a few years with Sai Maa I noticed she began to lose family and friends to the destructive teachings of Sai Maa and her disciples they literally tore her apart and ruined her live. While I was still attending I did hear about the great “Swami Parameshwarananda” and did meet him in Arizona with some friends. Right off the back I can tell you after meeting him that he is not a decent human being and is very strange and mean at times when you questioned anything about Sai Maa. One person did tell me that he was involved in a case of molesting young boys not here in the US but in another country where Sai Maa has courses and that the Sai Maa organization was keeping a tight lock on this and about the case at Crestone Ashram where he went after people, with threats of calling the sheriff, if they did not fall in line with his myopic dictates.

The people in India know Sai Maa is Fake and that is why they don’t like her at all. She adores another scam artist and a con Guru named Sai Baba who raped young boys and girls and was sexual predator who had criminal sexual assaults charges. The Apple sure does not fall far from the tree in the case of Sai Maa. She is greedy for money and power hungry. She is also particularly fond of breaking up marriages and keeping the men close. She claims celibacy and makes her closest devotees follow the same and then she has sex with her students who are married. This is a wicked woman to to core, but when you see her you don’t get that right away but trust me you will feel it, you will feel something just isn’t right about the person and her devotees students, teachers and the organization.

Sai Maa turns people into Sai Maa fans and you see it on some of the faces of the people who work for Sai Maa. These people are called Sai Maa Robots, they carry photos of her with them, have photos of her on there walls and prey to alters of Sai Maa. They are wide eyed entranced almost psycho looking people that are two faced and at of a drop of dime can confuse your emotions, destroy you and its over. The link below are photos that show the insane fans of Sai Maa and the people that get high from being Fans of hers. They even assign there robots to coach people, to turn them into Sai Maa fans. To only trust Sai Maa. They tell you what to say how to respond to Sai Maa how to stand, how to bow. What to eliminate from your life including loved ones. Encourage dependency and conformity. It’s a Mental torture crafted to change your mind to basically copy each other, there is no personality, they just copy each other. I watched all this for the time while attending courses at Sai Maa and at some point had to leave because it was just too crazy.

This organization makes even the most intelligent people turn stupid and subject them to what they want you to do. Sai Maa will not set you free even after you complete a course. You will be forced upon by the stupidity to proceed further. Sai Maa members insanely force other people to join not caring about the kind of impending mental impact. They send out tons of emails and you get phone calls as well.

She needs to be kicked out of the country with her entire family and back to India where the Indian government will deal with her. Sai Maa is not just a scam. A scam just takes away your money. But this one is dangerous and can destroy your relationship with loved ones and your family.

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SAI MAA is sick, manipulative, exploitative Narcissistic Abuser !

She demands complete obedience from her devotees and feels entitled to adulation and special treatment from her devotees, she dehumanize and objectifies people. These devotee claim to possess inside information about Sai Maa and have special rights to privileged access simply by virtue of their unbridled adulation and time-tested loyalty. Hence the Sai Maa crew which is composed of male a female devotee disciples who engage in selfless service of SAVA which Sai Maa has completely rewritten in her own manner.

I also knew a few of her followers and yes they suffer from the traits of serious personality disorders. They have messed up relationships and can barely keep a relationship because they travel all the time are rarely there for there loved ones and always passive aggressive with the ones they love. Very much Fake with showing any real love to the ones that matter in there lives. They believe Sai Maa is the answer to it all and can help with any matter, they have even gone as far as selling out there own Mothers and believing that Sai Maa is en-fact there real mother ! They keep photos of her next to there very own beds along with Sai Baba and gifts from here and a photo of her on there cell phones . Its Completely Sickening and Outrageous! Sai Maa works to convince her followers that she is literally God to the point that they even showed her blood cell on a jumbo screen with fake flickering light claiming she had lights glowing in her blood cells!! Absolutely Preposterous!!!!

I say whoever are the parents of these devotee disciples they need to wake up and get off there asses and stop letting abusers like Sai Maa off the hook and enabling her behavior and the traumatic impact she has caused on many peoples lives to continue ! She Preys on the weak !

THis is a CULT!!!! SAI MAA is sick, manipulative, exploitative Narcissistic Abuser !

She demands complete obedience from her devotees and feels entitled to adulation and special treatment from her devotees, she dehumanize and objectifies people. These devotee claim to possess inside information about Sai Maa and have special rights to privileged access simply by virtue of their unbridled adulation and time-tested loyalty. Hence the Sai Maa crew which is composed of male a female devotee disciples who engage in selfless service of SAVA which Sai Maa has completely rewritten in her own manner.

I also knew a few of her followers and yes they suffer from the traits of serious personality disorders. They have messed up relationships and can barely keep a relationship because they travel all the time are rarely there for there loved ones and always passive aggressive with the ones they love. Very much Fake with showing any real love to the ones that matter in there lives. They believe Sai Maa is the answer to it all and can help with any matter, they have even gone as far as selling out there own Mothers and believing that Sai Maa is en-fact there real mother ! I’ve seen with my own two eyes her followers’ shrines to her next to their beds – adorned with photos of her face along with Sai Baba and gifts from here and a photo of her on there cell phones . Its Completely Sickening and Outrageous! Sai Maa works to convince her followers that she is literally God to the point that they even showed her blood cell on a jumbo screen with fake flickering light claiming she had lights glowing in her blood cells!! Absolutely Preposterous!!!!

Sai Maa claims to be infallible, superior, talented, skillful, and omniscient when she is not ! I have seen the teachings of Sai Maa attended a program and seen all of her videos at Darshan with Sai Maa in San Diego & Albany, all were full of lies showing her blood cells shining with light and videos trying to explain how skill full and enlightened she is, she is not unique at all. Darshan is simply a place for her to replenish her recruitments and to get your CASH! Her devotee disciples stand guard while you are there looking for the weak minded people and pointing her to there direction so that she can suck them dry like a Vampire ! Yes Like a Vampire ! She claims she is martyr of darkness and stupendous forces and she is NOT ! It’s total Bull-Shit ! She is benevolent!

I say whoever are the parents of these devotee disciples they need to wake up and get off there asses and stop letting abusers like Sai Maa off the hook and enabling her behavior and the traumatic impact she has caused on many peoples lives to continue ! She Preys on the weak !

I also say shame on the parents of the sons and daughters who are
Exploited devotees disciples of Sai Maa for letting them become so deeply mixed up with a crazy insane narcissistic abuser who has torn spouse’s, friends, families and peoples lives to pieces with her imperialistic, psychopath, exploitative actions! She has taken there wills, money (and even their bodies)!
SHAME ON YOU FOR LETTING THIS HAPPEN!!!!!! HAVE YOU NO SHAME!!!!
LOOK AT THE PHOTOS OF YOUR CHILDREN BELOW IN THE HANDS OF THIS NARCISSISTIC ABUSER!!!!

She is not an authentic spiritual healer she is a fraud who has en-fact committed crimes in the name of enlightenment. She is a dangerous narcissist woman who is self-delusional in grandiose fantasy’s of omnipotence. There’s a lot going on at Sai Maa Camp that she wants kept under wraps .

SAI MAA is sick, manipulative, exploitative Narcissistic Abuser !

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