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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: The Royal Line ()
Date: August 27, 2013 12:05AM

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rrmoderator
The Royal Line:

OK.

So you are saying that you in no way, shape or form are connected to teaching anything professionally as a spiritual teacher of any sort.

And that whatever your profession is it is no way connected to the issues raised on this message board.

Did I get that right?

Correct.

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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: August 27, 2013 12:11AM

The Royal Line:

Thanks.

Just wanted to establish the facts.

We have had a lot of trolling on the subject of Swami G. at this message board.

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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: The Royal Line ()
Date: August 27, 2013 12:12AM

corboy:
I disagree.
She claims to be a celibate in the sannyas tradition, and requires the same from her sannyas students.
It would be entirely relevant if she was involved in a realtionship with Janie.
I have no issue with gay relations, it would be entirely a question of whether she has been and continues to be celibate and
not in a relationship.
I agree the money and privacy is also an issue.
We should not limit the discussion imo - it is complex and has many angles.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/27/2013 12:18AM by The Royal Line.

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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: August 27, 2013 12:15AM

OK let's settle down.

As you know Swami G. had a 43-page thread on this message board before a backup failure at the ISP led to its loss.

No personal attacks against members of this message board is allowed according to the rules.

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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: August 27, 2013 12:17AM

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The Royal Line wrote

".....a thread which I started by the way."

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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: marjo ()
Date: August 27, 2013 03:21AM

Very good videos about this subject: [www.youtube.com]

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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: psyborgue ()
Date: August 27, 2013 02:50PM

Corboy,

While I agree that discussion of Guru G's sex life is not constructive in that it's potentially embarrassing to her possible sexual partner(s), I do think that it does have relevance should evidence of it ever surface. Because of her doctrine of celibacy, sexual activity on her part would demonstrate a dual set of standards -- one for Guru G and one for everybody else.

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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: psyborgue ()
Date: August 27, 2013 03:02PM

I'm searching Google cache and making pdfs of the pages I find. I found this along the way. Guess it's karma/whatever's will that this still exist... heh:

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Perhaps you haven't read through all of the posts here, only seeing a limited few. All of the concerns have been laid out in detail:



1. She now requires renunciation for any that want her guidance, having changed that from the years past. For those that do not want to take renunciate vows, they are sent to the "does not want realization group", lead by students. She herself was married at the time of her alleged "realization", having taken renunciate vows only after said "realization" and getting divorced.

2. She draws disability from the United States Verteran's Affairs for PTSD, as a result of sexual assault incurred while enlisted. This is not a problem, except she currently receives treatment, medication and tells those officials / doctors / the US VA that "no one is here" to continue drawing the disability while working as a "guru" and a "counselor".

3. She will not allow those in her groups to seek their own psychological counseling outside of her group; if they do, they are asked to leave.

4. She herself is on medication for the PTSD, but belittles those that may consider taking meds to deal with their own psychological issues / tramaus.

5. She once treated a student, in her home, to wean him off his own meds (without a license of any sort) while continuing to take her own meds. That student has since left the path.

6. She has no education, training, diploma, certificate or licensing to act as a "counselor / drug addiction specialist / life coach".

7. If somone takes to sharing their concerns about her and her behavior, she readily, admittedly, and by example shares their private information gleaned while in her groups, in one-to-one interaction, through her counseling in the public areana (YouTubes, Facebook, her groups, with her inner circle).

8. She claims she can share that personal information because no one signed a "confidentiality agreement".

9. She had many health problems (diabetes, etc) as a result of overeating / obesity and, because diet wouldn't work (she admitted: "If it's in front of me, I'll eat it."), she required gastric bypass surgery. A former student and his family bought and paid for the surgery and the medical expenses. Her comment to her students at the time was: "If you want this guru to be around for a while, then I need to have this surgery."

10. She uses one student as her primary means to support her lavish lifestyle, aside from her disability payments. This includes Rolex watches, business ventures, jewelry, cars, motorcycles, houses, etc.

11. She claims she allows criticisms, yet for any that atttempt to bring up concerns about her behavior / actions are met with condemnation ("You will suffer grave karmic consequences for criticizing the guru.", "You are in a hell realm.", "You will lose all Grace", etc, etc), doing so in front of her students, in public and even using the person's private info as a source of weapons against them.


There are more examples. If you are truly interested, you will have to read through the thread. While you can say my speaking out is an act of anger and revenge, how would you classify her behavior of doing the same to me once I took to this board to share? The same? Or different?

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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: psyborgue ()
Date: August 27, 2013 03:33PM

I've gotten a bunch of stuff from Google cache and apparently all of DIddly's posts survived. I've reached the limit of what Google will let me access from cache for the moment. I'll try again later today to get the rest, but it does look like the majority of the pages are cached in part or in whole.

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Re: Guru Swami G
Posted by: psyborgue ()
Date: August 27, 2013 03:45PM

Ok. So apparently Google has blocked me temporarily for accessing Cache too much and I've sent an un-block request to them. I'm unsure of how long it will take. In the mean time, could somebody continue my work? There is no telling exactly how long Google's cache will stay up. I was on page three here. All you have to do is use the chrome browser and print to PDF from the list of destinations under the print dialog box (ctrl+p). Once you have the PDFs, PM me for a place to send them and i'll post them up somewhere. I have pages, 1-23, 25, 27, 29, 30, 31, 34, 35, 37, and 38.

I need pages 24, 26, 28, 32, 33, 36, and anything after 38 if it exists.

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