That's pretty much where I figured you were at. It's o.k. Burry. I love you brother and forgive you for the personal attacks you made in your email against me and my wife. I knew that telling you what I believe you needed to hear would probably upset you, but I'm going to do what's right no matter what. "Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful." Maybe some day you'll understand that as your pastor I was just telling you what I think you needed to hear, not what you wanted to hear. Don't worry, I won't respond to your email. I love you and wish the best for you and your wife. I pray you find a church where you can have a pastor you respect and receive council from. It's obvious that's not me which is o.k. God has the perfect place for you. Keep your eyes on Jesus brother.


Pastor G.
Daniel 12:3








On Jun 8, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Burry DALESSIO wrote:


Thats the second time someone told me i quit without notice i got news that i dont expect any one at this point will addmit, to but jason (my immediate over seer) knew for more than a month,i was looking. He had more than ampell notice. and if you remember correctly it was you who told him i was needed for the big house and not to worry it would be for a(regular) pay check.so dont tell me i have a bad attitude. why dont you do what the bible says, and stop making lame excusses for yourself, and walk as blamless,transparent as possible oh and a little humility from time to time wouldnt hurt either. and you really think $$ was the issue,then why am i still offering my help whenever its needed? youve got alot of nerve and if you stopped walking in so much fear and grew up a little you just might grow into those preacher shoes, how dear you speak on what you think ive shared with my wife and how terrible of a thing it is.ive gone to jason about all of this, his answers after all was said was "i really dont know what to tell you". im not gonna have little slap fight with you over this,but man to man you are compleatly out of line, with how you handled this.no need to respond to this email ive seen enough of your ass.P.S. My wife does not walk around with the deer caught in the headlights look walking on eggshells. your probebly not used to that..




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From: Geronimo Aguilar <therocofva@aol.com>
To: Burry DALESSIO <burrydalessio@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 11:19:58 AM
Subject: Re:

Hi Burry,


Honestly you have some ought in your heart. To be honest with you, I didn't know you had "unresolved issues." I think you are letting the devil make a big deal out of something very small. As far as I'm concerned, the bottom line is you wanted more money to work at The ROC, we couldn't pay you what you needed, and that's it! I don't dwell on the "he said she said" stuff. You know me better than that.


What happened between you and Big Tim is between you and Big Tim. I wasn't there and have no idea what was said. I do know that you approached him and just like you felt he was insulting you, he felt the same thing from you. Matter of fact, he said you called him a liar. Now I wasn't there so I don't know if you did or not, but one thing I know about Tim is that he never lies. He may be a little rough around the edges, but he's not a liar. So it seems to me that you have an issue with Tim. I know he's moved on in his mind and doesn't have a problem, but if you still do, go to him and work it out just like the Bible says.


You can say I was disrespectful to you if you want, but that was never my intention. It seems to me like if anyone is being disrespectful, that would be you! Pastor Jason has been your immediate overseer and leader for over a year. I told him to get with you because I knew you wanted to talk with someone immediately and I wouldn't be able to meet with you right away. Sorry Burry but you're not the only person at The ROC who has problems. If you feel it's disrespectful to have you meet with my assistant pastor, than you think too highly of yourself. Pastor Jason is more than able to help resolve issues.


You say it doesn't have anything to do with a job or money, but that's not true Burry. I wasn't born yesterday bro. It does have a lot to do with both of those. Unfortunately it seems that you forgot that you quit your job at The ROC and literally gave us a one day notice! Still, I was willing to try and have you come back after you left your other job. Unfortunately the money wasn't what you wanted or what you needed. No hard feelings. It is what it is.. But it seems like you want to blame The ROC. I think you need to remember the entire picture a little more accurate. Don't kid yourself, the job and money have a part in your attitude changing so much. Face that fact so you can deal with it. If it really isn't about the job or money, than ok, volunteer as much as you can and enjoy serving the Lord at The ROC whenever possible! I wouldn't say no! I believe you are called to The ROC and this is where God has you. But I also think you've gotten a pretty bad attitude. I believe you've gotten a "woe is me" mentality and have become ungrateful towards The ROC. I believe you've expressed your bitterness to your wife which in my opinion is a horrible thing for a man to do. But hey, you don't have to listen to my council. We can agree to disagree. I'm just calling it as I see it.


I love you bro and if you still have some issues you need to work out with me, feel free to set up a time with Jammie after church Thursday night. She will schedule some time for us to sit down. I don't like emails or phone calls. Face to face is the best way to communicate.


Pastor G.
Daniel 12:3








On Jun 8, 2009, at 6:35 AM, Burry DALESSIO wrote:


Good morning Pastor G. I gotta tell ya, I'm having a real hard time dealing with this ,what I perceive to be unresolved issues. First and foremost I don't believe this is some sort of test of God,there is no doubt the R.O.C. is were I'm supposed to be. If you could please explain to me that in the midst of all that was going with me and Big Tim, why I wasn't worthy of speaking to you on the matter. Also, How disrespectful of you to refer my to Jason when I tried to meet with you! (felt like a big kick in the dik) Now G, I don't think I deserve that. With that being said, I still get up everyday and miss my roc fam. This has nothing to do with a job or money, it never did. It has to do with the commitment I made to God.The R.O.C.. is all I know about serving Jesus, it is were I have introduced my children to Jesus, and Ive gotta say, there is going to be no easy way to try and explain (honestly) why I'm upset, too them. G. this is no small matter for my fam. and I, we all love it there. But I would really appreciate it if you can find the time to reach me 319 6528., You have my email. I need to resolve this for better or worst. I'm not kidding myself that I will always agree with everything and how its done.. But the one thing I will always believe in is our main purpose @ the R.O.C. and learning to do it the best I can. But if you truly believe this email is unwarranted,then I must be wrong in my understanding of where God might have me serve, and this saddens me deeply. Burry

yes he is the first one to admit it. thats his (out) for his inability to really follow through with anyone or thing i really belive its more of a maturity issue then an issue of sin he is ,in reality a little child trying to be a big boy all in all this sight will more then likly help him to grow. he cant really beileve everybody is wrong on this sight theres to many of us that dont just bash him,on the contrary, id venture to say there are plenty of us who would love to see him handle things right and bring is mission to full tilt by acting honorable

EM - Burry. EM you are too sweet to know you are being deceived. Burry there is a lot of drama going on at the ROC. You better find the nearest exit and sneak out before the curtain falls.

so is the ROC drama more active than usual these days?

I wish ev1 would get a clue - EM, you must READ all the threads here and when you read them, think about what they are saying and how you can apply them to what you have seen/heard. All is NOT good, although alot is - it's that it is not done for the right reasons.

It appears to me that EM and Yhall are one and the same, or better yet, who are they really??????? Notice how these two are the only ones that have been on this thread that makes it sound like you are at a saturday night ROC service listening to the ROC's accomplishments. The ROC does it all - no mention of God or Jesus, just the ROC and the staff. - Makes you wonder????

good point Saw - hadn't thought about that. AWStevens made me wonder too. He was for the ROC, then against it and back and forth. If you read the threads and think about them and then can apply them to your experiences, it makes so much sense, but i guess you have to be willing to "see the light".

when i found this site, through my daughter, who used to work at the ROC, i was amazed. I was already "out" by then, but it all started making sense, or as much as it can/could when i read the threads. It is hard to believe so many people are still being brainwashed. Yes, I view it as a cult and a scary one

i dont know about all of them but g outright lied to me when he said he had no idea i had unresolved issues (read our email chat i posted) unbenonced to me my wife sent him an email with her concerns about my struggles, and asked him to prayerfully cinsider how we could bring closer them. (she posted it a week prior to me posting mine)

hes ok he just landed a grat job in va i was there when he was asked to leave

Pastor G (Geronimo Aguilera), I knew him in Texas in 1997 and on, until he left to where is his now. In Texas he slept w/ a 12 yr old and a 14yr old..

Me and my 2 friends knew him really well, we hung out with him and were really close to him. So what I say her is no LIE and all Truth. He had a man that ran the sound for him name was Creig and he was married to a lady named Nancy. Everything was good until one day Geronimo or Pastor G called us and said that Creig and Nancy along with there Daughters were not doing the sound for him anymore. He said that Creig and Nancy had some problems and that they were upset and were spreading rumors. When Creig and Nancy contacted us they told us the truth. That they found out that Geronimo was having sex with Creig and Nancy's daughters (I won't say their names) but one was 14 yrs old and the other was 12 yrs old. Geronimo or Pastor G was 27yrs old. The 12yr old thought that Pastor G was in love with her so when she found out that Geronimo or Pastor G was still sleeping with her 14 yr old sister, she told her Mom and Dad. Nancy and Creig spoke to Geronimo about him sleeping with ther daughters, he said that he loved the 14 yr old one and that her was sorry and so on. He told alot of lies about Creig and Nancy so that people wouldn't believe them. When he found out that we knew the truth he tried to lie about us but it didn't happen. The truth started to come out and he fled to where he is now.... I can prove and back up all these things, I have no reason to lie about him. I see that he is doing somethings good where he is now and the bad thing about it is I want to think he changed but Only GOD knows.... Sammi B knew about these things to but I guess didn't care.....