Re: Richmond Outreach Center
Date: January 10, 2009 05:14AM
Janett, Banderson and IneedtheTruth,
Janet and Ineedthetruth... please read the full length of this thread. I do recall one or two insiders at the roc shared, in previous posts the details and references to the affairs not only Geronimo is having but other deacons. Since i've been through this with Geronimo and Phil and so many others before at Set Free I absolutely believe the accusations to be most likely the truth. But, to satisfy your need to feel more well-informed you can message the person or persons who made those postings.
Janett and BadKoolaid... You both were at Set Free with me.. you've both told me so privately. You BOTH have to remember how Geronimo started an affair with Sammy B (now his wife at the ROC) started his affair when he was 21 and she was FOURTEEEEEEEEN while he was still married to sweet Stacee and had his little kids with Stacee. C'mon... and he then ran off with Sammy B and arranged for Stacee to be sent to one of the 'ranches'. And if you don't recall that, you weren't very close or involved in the church at the time because it was well known by alot of people. I happened to know Stacee and lots of girls on 'the posse' so was privy to alot of the inner happenings of that group and the main household. You two can attest to the disparity of financial circumstances... anyone in the 'homes' or of the 'working' class lived off donated food (often mangled boxed food, limp grocery store cast-off produce, cans without labels (mystery dinner) and scraped by "with the grace of God" ahaha! what a joke - while Phil, Geronimo, their full family, the deacons and elders rolled around on new harleys, new snazzy duds, always had the stylish hair dos, the top make-up for the girls, the rides were kickin! They'd go eat out almost daily and Phil would foot the bill for the 8 - 20 people who accompanied him each time... only sometimes rotating a couple people in the posse (the cutest ones, of course) at those free nice dinners. C'mon! You know that was/is the truth of Phil and Geronimo's routines. Share your knowledge and experiences. Call it like it is/was. There are people at the Roc who are here or coming here either seeking confirmation to that inner feeling that something is wrong at the Roc or fully already aware of what is wrong at the ROC and want to say it openly, or the trolling few rabid, foaming at the mouth supporters (Geronimo's foolish 300) who come here to deny these experiences and facts.
Banderson.... just for a second imagine that it could be possible that the leadership might urge individual recipients of their gifts (Michelle) to tell an alternate story for how they got those gifts when asked? Geronimo learned from YEARS of experience with his father, Phil Aguilar, of Set Free Anaheim, how to create the right image. This includes cover stories, working real estate deals, working out workforce agreements with local businesses or businessmen or local governments to provide supposedly free labor (when in fact he garners financial kickbacks) but the 'laborers' who are told they are 'helping a sister or brother in Christ' out don't get diddly squat, live packed into homes like sardines, eating mystery cans of dinner. Believe me Banderson, he's learned from the best religious scam artist, his dad, and he's clearly repeating the process. I see so many Roc members and former leaders here detailing the cars, the home, the clothes and trips he takes and the restaurant trips he makes. It's an exact duplication of his father's program.
Banderson... and those of you who are saying you'll still keep attending. Why? With such corruption at the core/heart of this church and it becoming evident that the house of cards is starting to collapse in on itself it is a bad time to stick around a poisoned church. It won't be long before the local government and media start catching on as happened in Anaheim. If you want examples of this, message me. I'll give you the Orange County Register and L.A. Times articles about what happened in Set Free Anaheim. In fact, a group of ex Set Free people gathered together and shared their stories, experiences and factual proof and went to the local churches, governmental bodies and media and actually FOLLOWED Set Free everywhere they tried to open up new branches. It was a gutsy move on their part, and it was actually effective. Set Free was pretty much driven out (by being given NO local financial support and news articles detailing their doings) of a few cities. C'mon... Janet and BadKoolaid.. the most famous of these was Visalia, remember? AT the time, we were fed the line that it was a group of heretical, backsliders who were against "God's work" and we were made to think Set Free and Phil were in a sense martyrs for the cause of 'saving souls'. LAUGHABLE.
And yes, I've actually contacted a member of the Richmond news media. I shared some facts and history with that person. Not to my surprise, that person wasn't interested... mostly because I chose this person for the 'glowing' story they had already written about The ROC and wanted them to know what was underneath their publicity machine telling all how many programs they have going on.