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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:25 pm
I left his group about a year ago. I followed his work and went to every teleclass and in-person workshop for 3 years. I also worked with him professionally for 9 months.
In the beginning, I was attracted to his work because I felt a very powerful energy from looking at his website. In fact, I even felt something heal inside me the first time I saw one of his images. I then attended his workshop in Sedona in 2004 and was really impressed with him. He really seemed like he was in his integrity. I really admired his self-discipline, which I felt that I lacked at the time.
There were a few warning signs present at his workshop that year, although I wouldn’t discover the full depths of who he really was until 2 years later. During a woman’s presentation about nutrition, in front of an audience of about 300, he interrupted her mid-sentence and kicked her off the stage, supposedly saving the audience from “hooks” that this woman was supposedly placing into us. I honestly didn’t know what to think of this at the time, but was horrified as the entire audience erupted into applause.
On a break after this drama unfolded, I remember sitting on the curb outside the hotel and feeling sickened. We didn’t know the back story of what was going on, so why was everyone so happy that the supposed “bad guy” had been banished? There was something very Nazi-like about the whole thing.
Nonetheless, I left the workshop feeling impressed and even looked up to him.
2 years later I attended a smaller class where he gave out “destinies” to people. These were pieces of paper with a one paragraph description of what we were put on Earth to do. Some of his teachings that year were decent. Including teachings about going directly to God. But some of his tendencies to control were starting to be apparent. When you go to the workshop he restricts when you can leave the hotel, and where you can go. For example, the first 3 nights you were not allowed to leave the hotel and were not allowed to go into town. All of this is portrayed as orders “directly from the Angelic Hierarchy.”
It was at this time that he started to introduce his Ascensionist prophecies, saying that in 2012 the world will be split into 2 and unless you are on your destiny vibrating in the 5th dimension you will be demoted back to a caveman level of consciousness.
There was a lot of rhetoric implying that “we are the special ones” (the ones at the class) and he really emphasized the cosmic importance of our group of 20 people: “This class is the great cosmic experiment…” etc.
During the class he also began to make a lot of promises. Like we are the ones who will live forever, and that if you follow your destiny you will have 3 houses. He said that spiritual teachers are being taken out of power for not being in integrity and that these new openings are intended for us, the special ones.
One of the greatest aspects of that class for me at the time was the bond that I felt with many of the other 20 people who attended. One of the things I learned through this whole experience is that the isolation and need for community that many “lightworkers” feel can actually leave them vulnerable to be taken advantage of.
Up until this point, at least in my perception, his group wasn’t a cult yet. But directly after the destiny workshops in which around 80 people attended in 4 different classes, he started adding telecalls to make sure that we were on track with our destinies.
It was at this point that people started to turn into mindless followers, albeit very slowly. He was the guru and we were to ask him questions about every little decision in our lives.
“If I get this brand of shoelaces, will that further me along my destiny?”
In fact if you did not ask him questions then he said you were not committed to your destiny and would be “flatlined”.
It is in my opinion, that at this point he really started to turn. If his work was ever positive, it definitely began to get murkier and go into a darker grey area. I believe he became addicted to the power of having control over these details in people’s lives. He got off on it.
My spouse and I had gone to all of his classes up until this point together. And at first we were held up as the examples that everyone else should be like on these calls. “You two get special dispensations from the hierarchy because you will be moving,” he said on one telecall.
Several months later, when we hadn’t moved he made the grave and angry prediction: “The window has closed.”
By this time I had started to work with him professionally, and would spend many hours with him on the phone. He would call at any time of the day or night and give me hours and hours worth of “free psychic advice” which I greatly appreciated at the time.
Unfortunately, what I didn’t see was that he was slowly working an agenda to encourage me to break up with my spouse and move across the country. It was a very slow and subtle process, but there was one specific phone conversation in which he crossed the line into my relationship. “Where do you see your relationship going?” he asked.
Instinctively, I began to shut down when he asked me this and he said, “You’re blocking me.”
Because I was working with him, he started to act as if he had a say over every aspect of my life. He told me that I mustn’t use my computer or cell phone after 12pm each day or I would be “helping to build an evil energetic grid.” All of this was in spite of the fact that he would often use his cell phone or computer after noon on a frequent basis.
He eventually gave me a deadline to move across the country. He told me that I had to move away from my spouse and that if I didn’t move I would “no longer be safe” where I was living at the time.
He began to put together small hand-picked groups from the original destiny classes called “destiny teams” made up of the special people he chose. These groups were supposed to train under him to learn how to become the “new kind of spiritual teachers.”
As crazy as it sounds, he was grooming me to be something like an overseer of these groups and wanted me to control their energy like he was doing. He would say things to me at the time like, “You have to run the energy of the whole group,” but what he was driving at didn’t compute to me at all, because my mind doesn’t work that way.
Sadly, many people fell for his tactics and did uproot their lives thinking that this was God’s plan for them. But of course, it wasn’t God's plan. It was his plan.
He also put together another secret group called the “power of 12”. Again these were hand-picked special people, that he put together to do psychic protection for him everyday. He sold it by making it seem how much we all would benefit and how it would put us on the “fast-track” for our destinies.
The rules of this group were very strict. You had to get up at a 5am and state each person in the groups name and then do protection about a certain aspect of everyday life that you were assigned.
In the first meeting of the group, he stated how important he was and that all of these “dark forces” were out to kill him, but luckily a UFO appeared and saved him. All of this sounds completely crazy, but the fact that no one hung up the phone is a testament to the amount of mind-control that was going on.
All of this culminated in a class in 2007, in which he waited until the two of us were alone and gave me the prediction, “I wasn’t going to tell you this, but I think [your spouse] is going to die.”
He is so sick and so detached from the emotional bonds that people have in relationships that he expected that I would simply leave my spouse on the spot.
Up until this point, his agenda had been very subtle to me, but this tactic was so blatant I could finally see through it.
When I confronted him about it, he countered that the “hierarchy was very disappointed in me.” and “after all I’ve done for you to further your spiritual growth” this is the way you repay me, etc.
I know of at least 5 or 6 other people who received nearly the exact same letter when they dared to question him.
For people who are not in the inner circle, it can be harder to tell what he is really about. But I ask people just to do a simple reality check. Of all the things that he promised would come true for you a year ago, what has actually come true? Do you have the 3 houses that he promised?
It’s not like when you start going to his classes he tells you to break up with your spouse or move right away. It is a very slow, methodical and insidious process.
It’s starts out with him telling you that certain foods are higher energy than others. And that in order for you to do your spiritual work, because there is so much “infiltration” during the day, you have to wake up at 12-3am and work all night long.
He tries to limit what music you listen to and what teachers you can go to. And if you allow it, your will will be slowly eroded away.
He has tried to break up many couples. I recently heard from some friends of mine that he tried to do the exact same thing to them. He is a master manipulator. He is very good at picking up on your weaknesses and exploiting them. He seems to trigger the “I’m the only one in the class who doesn’t understand” or “I don’t want to get left behind” childhood wounds in people.
Unfortunately, when the things that he says don't come true many of us blame ourselves. There must be something that I didn't do right, and that's why it's not working. But this makes it all too easy for him to manipulate you as he will of course put the blame on you as well. He'll tell you how you're not measuring up, or that you're "almost there", but unfortunately, "there" never comes.
His classes are definitely not a space where thinking for yourself is encouraged. If anyone ever disagrees with him or confronts him directly they are promptly kicked out of the class, in the same way he did to his presenter in 2004.
One of the biggest lessons I got out of this whole experience is that just because you feel the “power” of something doesn’t tell you where that power is coming from. I feel the power, but where’s the love? This man does not show love. On the contrary he is a very sadistic individual, humiliating and degrading others for the sure enjoyment of it.
When he told me my spouse was going to die, he did so with a smile on his face!
This experience was the most difficult spiritual lesson I have ever gone through but ultimately the most valuable one. Perhaps in reality he really is a good teacher, because I learned from him that you should never put someone between you and God. No go-betweens.
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