There's something else that I noticed when studying more on the topic of David Berg, and what XFamily circles have termed "Bergisms."
Has anybody ever noticed how David (McKay, that is) peppers his communiques and teachings with the "Ha!" suffix to denote derision, or "as an interjection emoting amusement or hilarity in a given subject," or as well how he seems to have a habit of overusing exclamation points in his writings, JUST LIKE DAVID BERG?
Also there is Dave's apparent preoccupation with thriftiness and saving; as well I have heard from various sources (this forum included) that Dave is extremely "cheap," JUST LIKE DAVID BERG.
Rationing of toilet paper, saving every last bit of toothpaste, etc. Same kinds of things. Berg used literal rods, McKay uses whips. On and on the parallels go.
The McKay group's teachings are mainly just paraphrased versions of the MO Letters, as I have described in earlier postings.
There are so many similarities between the two of them that one would think (other than in the the obvious, prurient ways, but even then, Dave McKay's preoccupation with masturbation is more than a little disturbing) David McKay is not just trying to emulate David Berg, he is trying to BE David Berg.
When I was on the Jeremy Kyle show, Dave started to babble about masturbation: "Who masturbates? Who masturbates?" He cried out while waving his hand up in the air as is to say "Me too!" Now I shall tell you about the exact context in which wanking was brought up as a topic for discussion. I remember it vividly, and that stuff never made it into the final cut, or therefore on the air.
It was close to the end of the show, and L was telling the audience about some of the odd particulars of group's doctrine; she told of how the males in the group are pressured into getting vasectomies, also she told about how Dave encourages people to masturbate, not just that it was allowed, but encouraged. Of course all of the members who were on stage denied these things and said that she was lying.
L looked incredulous and disgusted. She said impatiently, "But it's on your website Dave. The whole world can read about it." Then Dave said something like, "OK, I admit it. That's true. I masturbate. Who else masturbates? Who masturbates?" He was grinning and waving his arm in the air. Then he said "No, better yet, who in the audience HAS masturbated?"
There was a gasp of shock and disgust from the audience, a grumble of discomfort at Dave's display of lack of self-control for shock value. L puckered her lips as if to express profound contempt. G. Baldwin shook his head ruefully. I simply stared at Dave in amazement because I nearly literally couldn't believe what I was witnessing. Jeremy Kyle told Dave that he was acting perverse and childish.
Dave just giggled like he was pleased with himself, and the other Jesus Christians on stage laughed on cue also. It was a bizarre scene.
Here I am. This is me, in this Jeremy Kyle clip from 14 years ago:
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/04/2022 08:39AM by The Whirlwind.