[[color=green:3703469d05]quote="jinnythesquinny" It's abundantly clear that it's Jesus they are following and not Dave. /quote][/color:3703469d05]

Dave does not even believe in the Bible Jinnythesquinny and he leads the group slowly but squarely away from him.

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Sorry puppet, but you failed!

No I merely choose to respond in a way that I choose. You've had trouble finding all that positive stuff..huh?

Xenophone, I am pretty darned sure that we have met in the past, in Dallas TX in the Spring or early summer of 2002.

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SumYou probably remember me too Fran. I visited you JCs once in Dallas in Spring/Summer 2002 and you all gave me the willies. But, your website has had a profound impact on my Christian life. As a whole, you just all seemed to be a pretty pissed off bunch to me. I saw no fruit of the spirit in my brief visit, just judgementalism and anger. I remember the Bible study I sat in on was called "No More Mister Nice Guy." And you were all skinny and dirty and smelled bad. Call me superficial, but is this the way to bring people to Jesus?

Also: I was going through a rough spot in my life at the time (emotionally speaking) and you probably remember me as a bit of a kook, too. :-)
Remember when I just abruptly left? That probably had you wondering.
No hard feelings, I hope? I think that you guys' message is pretty right on actually (not your approach to dealing with people, your message. More correctly, JESUS' message) but the problem is you're not speaking this Truth in love. You are speaking it from a judgemental and condemning spirit. I hope our paths cross again someday, brother.

If you follow Dave McKay's posts here they fit the same pattern you describe zeuszor.

McKay doesn't answer questions. And then either egages in childish name calling or arrogant pronouncements.

Not very "Christ-like," but rather revealing.

Who do you think the so-called "Jesus Christians" actually imitate, "Jesus" or Dave McKay?

It seems like they mirror McKay's failings and personality traits much like the followers of other groups called "cults."

Cloning the leader a salient feature of many cults.

Well, I do not know much about McKay in terms of his background and personality, but as evidenced by the tone of his ranting posts here, and my experience, albeit brief, in meeting the JCs in the past, it looks like the JCs are McKay-ites, just like the TFI bunch are Ole-ites, and the IHOP people are Bickle-ites, and on and on and on. In short, I see your point, Sir.

Hey Dave and all the rest of you JCs...what's up with all the "private teachings" on your site? True Christianity has no "private teachings", no secrets. It is proclaimed joyously and publicly from the rooftops. Christianity has no "private teachings". Are you disciles of Jesus and servants of the Most High God, or some Gnostic cult where I can't learn the "private teachings" until I am part of your group? Don't you realize how weird that seems?

Hey Xenophone, spills the beans, man: what are the "private teachings"? The secret Jesus Christian handshakes? :lol:

Xenophone, are you and your wife named James and Ufuoma (I believe that is her name)? See, I told you I remember you!