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rrmoderator
Malcolm Wesley WREST:
Some groups do change after the leader dies.
For example, after the deaths of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young the Mormon Church devolved power and ceased to be a single personality-driven organization it once was under their leadership. Today Mormons have a church government and the organization has softened its positions in a number of areas to move more mainstream. I expect that process will continue.
After the death of Ellen White The Seventh Day Adventist Church continued to evolve and change. Today many Christians see it as simply another Protestant denomination, though different in some ways, is not destructive or personality-driven as it once was under White and before her under Miller.
Jehovah's Witnesses devolved power from one man rule to a governing body, but still retains much of its destructive nature in my opinion.
Scientology, after the death of L. Ron Hubbard, moved from on man ruling over the organization to another man ruling over it. Nothing much seems to have changed in this respect and the stories of abuse continue.
After the death of "Moses" David Berg his widow took over the so-called "Children of God." The group has never really repudiated Berg and denounced his teachings as false. In my opinion it has changed names, but remains essentially the same and can be seen as a "destructive cult."
In my opinion ISKCON is a similar case, the group has made some changes since the death of its founder and deaths of other key leaders, but can still be seen as an essentially authoritarian destructive "cult."
Most cults disappear or gradually disintegrate after the leader dies. Especially a small group without meaningful accumulated assets like the JCs.
In my experience, if a group has accumulated substantial assets and developed a meaningful cash flow, someone will come forward to take over.
Otherwise cult groups typically will dissipate.
McKay is alive and the group appears to be active and still under his influence and/or control.
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Apollo
The fact none of his victims/followers have posted on the forum for a couple of months leaves me feeling suspicious. If there was some kind of disagreement and the cult did ''disband'' I do not believe every single one of them would completely turn their back on him. You would think that at least one or two would pop onto the forum to offer some kind of support. It leads me to believe that they are under strict orders to refrain from posting. This is all part of McKay's ''grand plan''.
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zeuszor
Again, you are taking it for granted that information coming from DM and his people is accurate. I am not. Me, I (more or less) always assume that DM is lying about whatever he communicates. We are talking about a man who is devious in the extreme. How do we know they're really out of the group?
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zeuszor
Again, you are taking it for granted that information coming from DM and his people is accurate. I am not. Me, I (more or less) always assume that DM is lying about whatever he communicates. We are talking about a man who is devious in the extreme. How do we know they're really out of the group?
Yes well that's a good point. Nobody knows for certain that they're out of the group. The people who we know were definitely members have not posted since the ''disbanding''. I just cannot see people like Joe and Alf (who presented themsleves as being completely under McKay's control) now turning their back on him just like that. If they're not posting then it's because McKay has told them not to. It's all part of his devious plan.