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What McKay promotes is called " spiritual addiction".

Please elaborate.

Hi Zeusor!
As Dr. Margaret Paul writes
" Spiritual addiction occurs when people use their spiritual practice as a way to avoid dealing with and taking responsibility for their feelings. ANYTHING that is used to avoid feelings and taking responsibility for feelings becomes an addiction- whether it is alchohol, drugs, food, TV, anger, withdrawal.....meditation ( prayer). "
This is why the JC's will never meet you in person- you would want to communicate with them in a way that involved ' feelings'. If a JC were to admit their feelings- and recognise yours- they would be forced to take personal and collective responsibility for their actions. Therefore it's much easier for them to remove the stimuli. You- for example- are a threat to their denied selves. This is why- as a group- and individually they lack empathy- and the feelings of others are projected by the JC's as both excessive and incredibly frightening.

Hope that makes things clearer. :)

David McKay's ideas about theology and "revolution and Kindergarten ideas. His message is "There's a revolution for Jesus in progress. Forsake all and join us. Join us or f**k you." This message is especially appealing to the naive , idealistic, and rebellious youth.

It's as if DM fancies himself to be the "leader" of some Christian version of The Weather Underground, revolutionaries for Jesus and all that. The End Times prophet, seer, revelator, and our protection from the infidels, whom the JCs expect to gleefully slay someday.

Obviously DM has principally molded himself after David Berg. You can see many elements of the COG/Family reflected in the JCs, along with elements of the Roberts Group/Brethren and the Jesus Army. DM's influences are many.

A close inspection of DM, his character and background reveals a portrait of a warped, frustrated old man, a relic, a fossil (I'll betcha that when David farts, a little bit of dust shoots out of his butt) whose glory days are behind him, despite his best efforts to cling to past "glory." Grow up, David.

The Dude Abides!

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David McKay's ideas about theology and "revolution" are Kindergarten ideas. His message is "There's a revolution for Jesus in progress. Forsake all and join us. Join us or f**k you." This message is especially appealing to the naive , idealistic, and rebellious youth.

It is a matter of balance with respect to Scriptural interpretation and its application in daily life, and an absence of that balance that begins to trigger a dysfunctional, compulsive religious addiction. That is what separates a religious person from a spiritual addict. That's what I basically see as the JC's main theological error: a lack of balance. All judgment, no mercy.

All judgment, no mercy.
That's about right- though, to be fair- could be said about many religious bodies.
For me- there are two things that strike me about the JC's. Firstly- their lack of communication skills. Many of their problems arise from their unwillingness to engage properly with others. For example- if they had met you again, and you had both talked through your issues with each other- you probably wouldn't be here now. So- essentially, the JC's create their own " enemies".
Also- because the JC's are taught to deny their own feelings- the feelings of others are alien to them- resulting in a lack of empathy- that is startling and confusing to outsiders.
However- I agree with you Zeusor- with a comment you made about an " us vs. them" mentality. Anyone who is genuinely on a spiritual journey understands that there is no " us vs. them"- no " good guys" vs. " bad guys". The Jc's have yet to learn this. Until they do- a great many more people will be hurt.

INVADING THE CHURCHES/DM'S COG INFLUENCES

MORE ON DM'S BACKGROUND

Another tactic that should cause Christians not only to rage at the audacity of the cult but weep at the lack of discernment in the pulpit is “church invasion.” In this activity, the cultists call local churches—focusing particularly on Pentecostal and charismatic, “Spirit-led” churches. The independent Christian missionaries introduce themselves by stating that they are traveling locally to raise support to enter the mission field in a particular country. They ask the pastor if he would be willing to meet with them and consider allowing them to “minister” in a service for a love offering. If the pastor accepts the meeting, the cultists visit his office scrubbed and shined. They are masters at Christian-speak and frequently are able to disarm the pastor who allows them to sing and bring the message in an evening service without ever checking references or doctrinal positions. In this way, the group is afforded the opportunity not only to raise significant funds, but they also encounter spiritually weak members of the church to whom they can continue to “minister” through “Bible studies” on an on-going basis. Instructions for carrying out this work can be found in some of the group’s undated writings like How to Invade Churches!”

It might be interesting to note how The Family really views the Church. In The Fruitful But Dangerous Ministry of “Invading the Churches!” the anonymous author states:

“THE LORD HAS ACTUALLY GIVEN US A TRUE LOVE for many of these “mentally handicapped Christians.”
(emphasis in the original)

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Another tactic that should cause Christians not only to rage at the audacity of the cult but weep at the lack of discernment in the pulpit is “church invasion.” In this activity, the cultists call local churches—focusing particularly on Pentecostal and charismatic, “Spirit-led” churches. The independent Christian missionaries introduce themselves by stating that they are traveling locally to raise support to enter the mission field in a particular country. They ask the pastor if he would be willing to meet with them and consider allowing them to “minister” in a service for a love offering. If the pastor accepts the meeting, the cultists visit his office scrubbed and shined. They are masters at Christian-speak and frequently are able to disarm the pastor who allows them to sing and bring the message in an evening service without ever checking references or doctrinal positions. In this way, the group is afforded the opportunity not only to raise significant funds, but they also encounter spiritually weak members of the church to whom they can continue to “minister” through “Bible studies” on an on-going basis. Instructions for carrying out this work can be found in some of the group’s undated writings like How to Invade Churches!”

It might be interesting to note how The Family really views the Church. In The Fruitful But Dangerous Ministry of “Invading the Churches!” the anonymous author states:

“THE LORD HAS ACTUALLY GIVEN US A TRUE LOVE for many of these “mentally handicapped Christians.”
(emphasis in the original)

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For the ex member raising concerns about the Jesus Christians infiltration of Churches.

I suspect that David probably learnt this strategy by following the Children of God teaching contained in David Berg's letter (834),
"It's time to Invade the Churches".

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