Upset and embarrassed? Let see....that would seem to describe the person who is INSERTING HIS BIG BUM into the mix with Joe’s family, BICKERING AND BELLYACHING at Joe's parents, rehashing the past, trying to extort apologies and force the Johnson’s to lie about Rick Ross, dangling the idea if they did, Joe would become available…perhaps…..perhaps….not….. and who is really preventing Joe from seeing his parents by interfering and insisting HE be the one to do the meeting?
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Who is the one who wants to meet Joe's parents INSTEAD of Joe? Ha. Is it Malcolm? I don't think sooooooooo.
Dave really….why on earth do you want to force these poor people to meet with YOU instead of their son…I think you THRILL at the idea of exerting power over them….you would actually force a meal between people that have been on the wrong side of each other to horrific levels in the last few years…. to force such a “fake” friendly meeting is stupid….you Jesus Christians talk about being so against “fake and phony” actions…you brag about honesty and you won’t abide insincerity you say…..and now YOU want to force these people to pretend friendliness to you, the cult leader who took their son out of their lives?
They would rather chew glass, I imagine, than sit with you but they MIGHT do it just to see Joe at some point. They likely would do it if Joe would be there with you but you think they will meet alone with you?
Thank God Jared has taken legal advice and refused this staged and stupid idea. I fully believe YOU would ambush them with some media blitz (if you could interest some media in a 12 person cult but you will mention the proposed kidney donation by Joe to get the media excited..... maybe....they might be bored now by kidneys and whippings....what can you come up with next?) if you could get your name in the press, you would gladly sacrifice Joe’s parents. You don’t like them and don’t BS about otherwise as then you look more the fool. You hate these people. You have made your hatred clear.
You have created a thread where you and the cult can continue to rehash the past, post their depositions and peck apart every single word they say to Joe. YOU are the one who is insisting all this take place in PUBLIC rather than letting them talk via email or telephone out the reach of your big ears and bigger mouth.
Who is the one who is issuing demands that John show up or there will be no meeting?
Who is the one who is trying to call the shots for everyone?
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Same guy that tried to tell his cult members to shut up on stage and they did not listen...they talked around DAVE MCKAY exactly as the membership is doing now...on the forum and in reality....they are carrying on in spite of Dave McKay's antics. Ignoring him.
No...... the person who wants to keep Joe from his family is the USUSAL CULPRIT. The one who has the MOST TO LOSE if Joe decides to meet with his parents alone and they are able to tell him a few home truths about McKay and HE LISTENS.
I think Dave is the one who is UPSET and RISKS HUGE FURTHER EMBARRASSMENT if MORE of his CULT, namely HIS PUPPET LEADER who's strings he pulls ABANDONS HIM AS SO MANY OTHERS ARE ABANDONING HIM.
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I am 100% FOR Joe meeting with his whole family or just his mom....in whatever way they feel is safe for all. JUST JOE-NO DAVE.
I sincerely hope Joe is able to see that his mom, dad and brother would never harm him. That is a lie, born of a jealous heart, a cold unfeeling heart that constantly hurts his own son and rejects that sons kindness and offers of meetings and peace. That cold heart believes that all other parents are as brutal as he has shown himself to be.
I see nothing but pure unconditional agape love for Joe coming from his parents. I fully support Joe meeting with them and I would love to hear that Joe can still think for himself and can show himself a grown man who can stand alone. I think Sheila Johnson raised a strong son who can do this meeting without McKay. Arrange it in a 100% safe environment like a police station or have a policeman on stand by---here the police will attend in order to keep the peace if there is a concern...I am not sure about the USA but if they won't act as peace officers then simply arrange to meet in the lobby of a police station where there will be countless police plus video surveillance to record activities and keep all people safe. Another option is to meet a lawyers office as some lawyers will act in this capacity, they will act as mediators in child custody exchanges and again everything is on video and the lawyer will act as a "friend" of the court to facilitate peaceful meetings. There are plenty of safe options...some churches might help arrange a safe meeting. Some social work groups may do so as well. Let Joe choose so he knows he is in control of that and that there is no conspiracy. The meeting could take place from vehicles even...Joe, in control of his own car, rolling down his window to speak to his mother and she stays in her own car... Joe is free to drive away at any time and no one could stop him.
If he agreed to meet alone, that would show he is truly free from anyone's control. If Dave is allowed to control the meeting, it's clear that Dave controls Joe and Joe cannot be free from the very oppression and control that we are opposed to.
Joe knows he is safe meeting his parents. In his heart, he knows this. Pray about it Joe....ask God for guidance, seek God's will, not Dave McKay's control. If you are truly FREE Joe, YOU are FREE to see your own family without a "minder".