Re: "Jesus Christians," "Australian cult," Dave McKay
Date: January 21, 2008 05:43PM
There are always two sides to a grievance and part of the purpose of this forum is to give ex memebers a chance to share about what is really bothering them, but quite often, when people who feel hurt do not get the apology they want, they will "misremember" the grievance, play with time sequences, leave significant parts out in the retelling of the grievance, or just make up totally new grievances which supposedly happened, in an effort to bully an apology from someone.
Casey, as you were not there when the events happened that I am discussing it seems a bit foolish for you to be offering up a judgement, don't you think. It is quite obvious where you sit, i.e. parroting Dave's account of events you know nothing about. Everything you see, hear, or say, is done within the confines of what Dave allows you to see, hear, or say. However I do agree with you that there are TWO sides to a grievance, and that people do play with time sequences, leave out significant parts in the retelling, or just make up totally new grievances.
Regarding the purpose of the JC "forum". Any contrary views are banned. Have you EVER disagreed with Dave on any subject at all Casey? Give it a try sometime.
Dave, you talk about the difficulties offering up criticism to people due to being imperfect, and that you would have to apologise for being alive.
I don't recall you ever apologising to me, my wife, or mother for accusations of thwarted theft, or other insults.
I don't recall you ever apologising to Kevin and Liz for the way you treated them and roughly manhandled Liz.
I don't recall you ever apologising to Gary and Roshini for throwing them out in India just befire Christmas day and trying to get Roshini to leave Gary.
I don't recall you ever apologising to Boyd and Sheri for trying to get them to betray Kevin.
I don't recall you ever apologising to Attila for accusing him of theft.
No Dave, you have never apologised when it means admitting fault of wrong doing on your part. I would seriously love for you to prove me wrong by apologising sincerely for all of the above... but I will not hold my breath.
Oh, and Dave. The offer was for a public unmoderated debate in a venue where you do not have power to ban, delete, or dominate. An independent forum where ex members, parents, interested parties, or current members are free to say whatever they choose without you inventing thread titles, adding disclaimers to posts, or making threats. A place where equality of treatment is observed, principles are adhered to and persons are not attacked. I am not interested in any media circus you want to organise, as to my way of thinking doing so only panders to your ego, and does little to further real debate on the issues you claim to adhere to, i.e. the teachings of Jesus.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/21/2008 06:13PM by apostate.