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Hi Muppet, I have sucessfully posted on the Rick Ross forum only once, but have tried only three times. Every post on RR is moderated, and although I can give you my word that I have not been negative or abusive or anything of the sort, two of my posts have been rejected. I simply can't be bothered writing long replies if I have no way of knowing whether they will ever even be posted.

Hi Ash, it's really good to see your post. Can I just mention that I have noticed posts actually arriving instantly on this forum. I think it less likely to be a matter of censorship when posts do not turn up, than some other issue.

We were really sorry to learn of your departure 2 days after the event, from a third party - had hoped you would have been inclined to speak with us or respond in some way before leaving - a shame that was not possible for you on this occasion.

I would also like to mention my puzzlement at the great interest in advertising and PR that you and your companions keep showing. I love getting news of you, esp with pictures, but am also sure that your testimony on the jcs web-site denounces the grahpic design course you dropped out of, for fear that it may have lead to a career in advertising had you completed it : is this media attention you have currently elicited not the fruit of the same tree?

Jesus never advertised his good works : was he not known on occasion to instruct people he had healed to tell no-one of it? Correct me if I'm wrong.

You will have arrived in Canada now and be preparing for your donation. We are very disturbed - you may have noticed. We do hope all goes well for you there. All we are really worried about is your well-being and your future. We very much hope that you will feel able to communicate with us directly now, both before and after your procedure, and greatly look forward to hearing of it's success from you.

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Dave is on the living donors online forum talking about being in a Canadian hospital with a "friend"... funny how he does not use the word "follower" or "group member" or "fellow Jesus Christian". I guess he is scamming yet another hospital ethics board, and abusing the system which has been designed to protect donors and recipients.

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Cait, be sure to make mention of Dave's tactics of using the Bible to backstop the giving of body parts to any media that contact you... oh yeah, don't forget to mention the Kenyan volunteer they whipped. I am sure Dave won't mind, after all he thought the idea up. Feel free to email me privately if you want any input.

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I know that prayer does the real work, but what we say counts for heaps too.

As a saying I heard the other day goes: "Trust God, but don't forget to tie up the camel"

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Dave surpasses himself again with his myths. There has been no excommunication but Dave craves the limelight. There has been coverage of the group and it has been negative on the whole. What does he want? Does he want the Catholics church, the AOG and all the other churches he has infiltrated to start preaching his evolving message? Unlikely!

It is a myth that all the JC's have been 'excommunicated' or banned here. To my knowledge, Fran, Ashwyn and Josh are free to post here and have not been banned. Rick could you comment ? Is this true?

Hi Muppet, I have sucessfully posted on the Rick Ross forum only once, but have tried only three times. Every post on RR is moderated, and although I can give you my word that I have not been negative or abusive or anything of the sort, two of my posts have been rejected. I simply can't be bothered writing long replies if I have no way of knowing whether they will ever even be posted.

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Any reputable journalist interested in speaking to JC critis should be able to post their contact details here. No reputable journalist would ask Dave to supply these and he should not have made that request.

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Any reputable journalist interested in speaking to JC critis should be able to post their contact details here. No reputable journalist would ask Dave to supply these and he should not have made that request.

You're absolutely right! There is no precedent in objective journalism that uses one side of the argument as a 'casting' mechanism for the other side of the argument...unless the project is not objective journalism but a promotion for one side. There is no need for McKay to do the work of a true, 'blood-hound' journalist because any journo would know how potentially tainted their story may become. Imagine if criminals could decide their judge and jury!

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DJ lacks compassion and empathy for his followers.
Example: He will confiscate their travel docs. and tickets if they get out of line in a foreign country. Then he has been know to expell them from the community. Knowing very well that they will be left to sleep on the streets until they coming groveling back or demand their possessions and decide to break from the community permanently.

DJ is a controlling manipulator.
Example: He seperates families and causes division between them. That is inside and outside of the community.

Example: I have been present when a letter from DJ has been read to the community concerning kidney donations. I can't remember word for word but something along the lines of, if you DON'T want to donate a kidney I will wonder what is wrong with you, was written. That was just one letter there were many.

Example: In a community grievance he often interprets what people mean for the followers, rather than just letting them figure it out themselves e.g. he might say you don't know this person like I do, they may sound like they are saying sorry but they really mean blah blah blah.

We of course fall for it hook line and sinker. Why? Well, he is the divinely chosen leader of the movement, right? If we disagree surely it is just signalling some unspirituality in us!

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I trust the ABC to do a fair job. If it was one of the commercial channels I'd be more skeptical. Perhaps this is what we've all been waiting for. The truth to finally surface. And we know too well how McKay can't help but be his own worst enemy. I mean, the guy is simply stupid. Yeah, I know, he's cunning and quite articulate, but this, I'm sure, is outweighed by his own notions of grandeur.

Folks, I think our 'good work' is beginning to bear fruit!