Zueszor. I only asked that you stop the rhetoric which referred to violence being visited on Dave. That was my concern.

It can be seen from his comments above that he easily twists such comments. But if you want to continue making such comments you need to know that I do not support you in them.

I have learned better no Sir. Walk softly and carry a big stick, very circumspect.

That should say, I have learned better now, sir.

Thanks Zueszor. I know you are a reasonable person, and that you are concerned about this cult. So are ex members who have friends inside it.

thanks zeusor from me too for that declaration; one of the peculiar complexes of Dave is that he seeks the appearance of persecution to validate his beliefs and to cement the unity of the group. This is a major reason for courting sensationalism. (Perhaps they should be renamed christian Sensationalists!)

As you have seen, he is quick to imagine impending physical persecution. Unfortunately he has been quick to jump on some of your posts as evidence that he is to be tortured and killed as a martyr. (Of course we all knew you were writing figuratively but this is fuel for his fire of self glorification within his group). I don't think he really wants true persecution, but he does want the group to think he is a spiritual warrior, fearlessly facing persecution.

I reckon.

Nobody knows Dave better than he knows himself. So I would say his self diagnosis was accurate.

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What do you mean exactly?

Yeah, I was implying that too. I can understand the context: the Bible says it one way and McKay does it another? Or have I got it wrong?

Although the Christian myth interests me, I've never read the whole Holy Bible. It's never been an easy read, but I am fascinated enough because it represents a vital link in the chain of world mythologies. I don't mind Bible quotes as long as there's a context (and that can be pretty slim at times) and, for me at least my benefit, a few personal notes (and this can help with context).

For instance, Zeusor wrote:

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1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

Personally, a sentence/idea like that needs to be broken down. Call me stupid, but 'subjection with all gravity' sounds like Dickens' or Poe. I don't mind the heavy-handed romanticism of the Bible, as long as I'm not pinned underneath... Actually, I have a real interest in Bible quotes/stories because of their effect/impact on our culture and its people.

But like all mythological texts, sometimes the Bible needs deciphering to sustain its relevance to a contemporary audience - and I like to think of myself as one.

Say Jack, this isn't the place for theological discussion. You know my email address. Write me, OK?

Then why put random quotes from the bible- plebs like Jack and I :D don't understand unless you explain in what way they refer to McCay.

And not being religious we are interested solely in how they relate to McCay.

It would just be good for me at least if you would explain the context of the quotes a bit in this thread.