Davey Boy should be in church right now. No doubt he'll be scanning the congregation for any vulnerable young teenagers. I suppose you could call it a ''scouting'' mission.

I got offered the pay-off by the way, things were so far gone by then that promises weren't ever an option.
I knew I was f*cked whichever choice I made, so I legged it.
Not very heroic but then survival was, and still is, far more alluring.

'Scouting for Boys' -----a best-seller.

I see David as a type of spiritual "chickenhawk":

(Not that I am implying that he is gay):

[en.wikipedia.org]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2011 09:22AM by zeuszor.

Zeuszor, can you please post the last JCs newsletter you received?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2011 09:25AM by Apollo.

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Jesus Christians Newsletter #129, November, 2010

More Violence in Kenya

Readers may recall several months ago, that Robin rescued a man with psychological problems from being stoned to death by villagers for an attack he had made on someone in the markets.

This week he was involved in a similar act of violence, and locals attempted once again to kill him, this time with machetes. Miraculously, he survived and was taken to a local hospital, where he lost his hand, and was treated for numerous deep cuts to the rest of his body. It is a wonder that he did not bleed to death.

Meanwhile, the following short single-column article appeared in a Nairobi newspaper this week, which gives a rough idea of the official attitude toward members of the public taking the law into their own hands, as locals did with this mentally disturbed man:

Brave matatu [taxi van] passengers overpowered four carjackers and lynched two yesterday. Police said the vehicle was travelling from Nairobi when the gang seized it and drove it toward Gaumu. On the way, the owner of the matatu grabbed one of the robbers, who was driving, causing the vehicle to hit an electricity pole as a result. Residents joined the passengers in lynching two of the robbers and then set their bodies ablaze.

Nothing in the article indicated that the police saw anything wrong with the passengers killing the robbers.

Broken Hand

Barry had an accident with his bike last week, landing on his hand and breaking a bone. It has been particularly awkward for him, trying to distribute copies of Survivors with just one hand, but Barry has soldiered on bravely. He will probably be in a cast for another four or five weeks.

Although Barry has been experimenting with survival in a squat, he moved back into the bus with Ross during the first couple weeks after the accident. Together they had a successful outreach to the Blue Mountains.

Israel Trip

It has been seven years since Paul donated a kidney to a woman in Israel. She has been asking him to come back for a visit ever since the donation, so he went over for a short visit during the month. Ulrike was invited too, but her passport was nearly expired, and so she could not travel. As our passports expire, each of us will be waiting on God to open doors before we consider any further international travel, because we do not want to be associated with the microchips included in the latest passports.

Twins Featured at Festival

A documentary, called "I Need You to Save My Life" was screened at the Fort Lauderdale International Film Festival at the end of the month, resulting in several people signing up to become organ donors during the festival. The film features kidney donations by Jeremy and Jayme (among others).

Videos Hit the Streets

The first 50,000 DVDs of "The Tyrant Within" and "Beyond Justice" is due on the streets of London this week. We are all keenly awaiting the response of the general public to these two powerful messages.

If readers would like a copy of this video, they can write to: uklisteners@yahoo.co.uk and request one. Give us your postal address, and we will give you an address where you can send a small donation to help cover the cost of replicating and posting.

'Survivors' Comic Underway

Simon has begun working on a comic book version of "Survivors" in conjunction with Dave. It is expected to take several months to reach completion, and several more to be printed. Nevertheless, we hope to have it available for the general public sometime next year.

Slum Gardens

Casey, GD, Karl and Tim traveled from Nairobi to spend a weekend with the rest of us at our international volunteer centre in Western Kenya. While they were here, we discussed plans for a number of projects in the Nairobi area, including one that has already been started at an orphanage, where we plant up to 50 seedlings in one very big sack of fertile soil. The seedlings grow out the side of the bag as well as from the top, and this allows city slum dwellers to grow most of their family's vegetable needs with just minimal yard or porch space.

Survival Outreach

Trevor went on yet another survival outreach, this time with Ross, before he left Sydney to join the U.S. team. They slept on cardboard without blankets. Only one night was particularly cold, and the next day someone gave them blankets to be used for the duration of the outreach.
When he arrived in the U.S. Trevor was pleased to see that Jesse and Reinhard had been working on ways to do less driving around the vast L.A. area, and to cut down on their own food waste as well, all in preparation for the day when we will be starting to live entirely without money.
Family Visits

Bob, Alan, and Kim went to Manchester, where Bob visited his parents and his brother. His mother generously donated two used laptop computers to the community. While there, Kim visited an old friend as well. When they returned to London, Fran and Kim visited Fran's sister, who is currently living there.

On an outreach to Brighton, Alan was able to visit his sister. His mother refused a visit, apparently in protest against him becoming a Jesus Christian. Because Alan is in his sixties, it led to some interesting discussion about how age really is no barrier when parents decide to resist a decision to follow Jesus.

Sue's brother and his wife visited London from Australia, and Rols, Sue, and Dan were able to spend some time together with them before they flew off to France for a holiday.

Exam Results

Dan's early exam results were one C, two B's, and the rest A's. He will have two more chances to improve on those marks. Good work, Dan!

Church Band

Jesse joined his father in performing at a church service, where they both played in the band. Jesse played the saxophone.

Ross' Activism

Ross attended protest marches against the war in Afghanistan and in support of refugees. He has also volunteered to assist a refugee aid organisation which gets no funding from the government.
Aussie Teen Volunteer

An 18-year-old high school graduate from Western Australia stayed for a few weeks with us in Kenya as part of a tour she is doing of the world before going on to university. She was a great help during her time at the volunteer centre especially when working with the local children.

Freeganism

Freeganism and related topics continue to inspire new acquaintances in the U.K., where Paul and Ulrike shared a freegan meal with two Greek women, one of whom Paul had met through a free economy function, sponsored by Mark Boyle (who is featured on the video about the Mark of the Beast).
The team watched a freegan documentary which featured Alan and two Scottish Freegans. The documentary showed how shops are now deliberately destroying food and adding dye to keep it from being eaten.

Outings

Roland and Sue were given free circus tickets while out distributing copies of Listening and took several JCs along with them for the outing. The circus had some amazing performances by, amongst others, Chinese acrobats, an unbelievably 'rubber' woman, an actually funny clown, and some energetic African dancers and gymnasts -including doing the limbo under a flaming rod only 30cm from the ground! The JCs had lots of fun oohing and aahing with the rest of the crowd, and had a great night out.

The Gianstefanis met up with Catherine (from the forum) in Cornwall, and she treated them to tickets to see the Eden Project.

Joe's Surgery Looms

Joe appears to be very close to donating a kidney to an unnamed recipient, with the operation planned by the end of the month, providing all the tests were successful.

Holiday for Rob and Chris

Rob and Chris were given a week's holiday at a hotel in Kisumu as partial compensation for having missed out on the reunion cruise in Australia. They had been near exhaustion from the many duties at the volunteer centre, and the week has brought them back feeling more inspired and refreshed.

Typhoid Continues

Our battles with typhoid in Kenya, have continued, although faithful treatment with the relevant medications seem to be protecting everyone from serious symptoms so far.

New articles

There are several new articles on our web site. Click on the links below to see them.

Alf has written one called "When Silence is not Golden", which defends our right (and need) to challenge the lies that have been told about us. Five-star stuff!

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Dave writes about the need to be responding to God, and not just to a doctrine, when choosing to forsake all and live by faith, in "The Calling".

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Then there is a very short article about how people can let their own failures destroy their lives, instead of moving on, called "Sour Grapes".

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Discussion Topics

Some new discussion topics on the forum this month:

Constant Prayer, by Trevor: Questions what it means to "pray without ceasing".

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

God in Life Situations, by Simon: People share how they cope when things go wrong in their lives.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Right up to the Creepy Line, by Alf: An article on how far Google is prepared to go in controlling our lives leads to talk about how far we are prepared to go before we finally take a stand against the Mark of the Beast.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Lady Gossip, by Dave: A discussion about the need to deal ruthlessly with gossip and gossips.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

I Ask Your Thoughts on Usury, by Mosheh: A reader who says he is running for President of the United States, discusses his plans to save the world.

[jesus-teachings.com]

Catholicism and JCs, by Littlerose: Comparisons between the Jesus Christians and Catholicism.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Rick Ross Article, by Dave: Telling how Rick was involved in an extortion bomb threat, for which he served time in prison.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Oldies but Goodies, by Dave: A list of links to some 20 or more outstanding articles that have never been published in hard copy, and which people may have missed when they first came out. Definitely worth looking through these to find some that interest you.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Sheila's Testimony, by Alf: Reminders of some of the lies that Sheila told under oath against Joe, Reinhard, Dave, and the JC community in just one of three court appearances, for which she needs to make amends if she wishes to restore a right relationship with Joe.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Atheist Website Includes Jesus' Teachings, by Jose-David: A remarkable list of some of the same teachings that we have, on an atheistic web site that challenges Christians to get serious about obeying the one they call Lord.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

The Reason, by Dave: An essay on why it is that so many people intensely dislike us, followed by some interesting comments.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

There is No Virtue in Prayer, by Dave: This shocking title just refers to people thinking that they have done something great by praying.

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

When the Truth Hurts, by Dave: An actual email exchange, where the writer goes from praise for what we teach and honesty about her own faults, to a hard nasty spirit when confronted with the need for change in her own life. Includes the video of Francis Chan's sermon, "Lukewarm and Lovin' It".

[www.jesus-teachings.com]

Cheers, let's see if we can find any clues in there.

Roland and Sue were given free circus tickets while out distributing copies of Listening and took several JCs along with them for the outing. The circus had some amazing performances by, amongst others, Chinese acrobats, an unbelievably 'rubber' woman, an actually funny clown, and some energetic African dancers and gymnasts -including doing the limbo under a flaming rod only 30cm from the ground! The JCs had lots of fun oohing and aahing with the rest of the crowd, and had a great night out.

The Gianstefanis met up with Catherine (from the forum) in Cornwall, and she treated them to tickets to see the Eden Project.

I thought the Gianstefani's had left the community a few months earlier?



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/07/2011 09:42AM by Apollo.

I think that is 'left' the community--they are still affiliated and forever on a string to the Apostle's hand.

What has me wondering is that this was November 2010, the newsletter is full of plans for the future and yet by the end of the month they had all 'graduated.' There isn't a whisper or hint of that in there.

Something must have happened to prompt that 'graduation' as a solution, and something a bit more than a sudden whim from the Wanking Apostle.

2010 was quite an eventful year for the JCs.....They were involved in a courtcase.....They blew $30k+ on a cruise (Dave's dream which became a reality).....They ''lost'' six longterm servants -- the Kronmiller twins, the Gianstefani's and Casey.....Dave builds up a close bond with some nutjob who previously claimed the JCs were a terrorist cult.....They claim to have disbanded towards the end of the year.....Dave (and a few of his followers?) then join the xjcs after totally shunning it for years.....And of course who could forget Peter!